Hybrid???

[remingtonusa]

I’m sure I got a hybrid this 2018 season. He has really dark hair and real coarse with a whitetail rack. Where do I send a piece of the hide to where it can be tested to verify it?

[elkhunter11]

You don't send the hide anywhere, you look at the glands on the rear legs, but the odds are likely 99% that the glands will match the tail/rear of the deer.



Whitetail on the left Mule deer on the right.

[remingtonusa]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

You don't send the hide anywhere, you look at the glands on the rear legs, but the odds are likely 99% that the glands will match the tail/rear of the deer.



Whitetail on the left Mule deer on the right.

What if I no longer have the legs then what do I do?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by remingtonusa

What if I no longer have the legs then what do I do?

Does it have a white rump, with a thin white tail with a black tip? Most importantly, realize that many mule deer have antlers that are not forked, antlers are not at all a reliable way to tell if the deer is a mule deer or a whitetail.

[remingtonusa]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Does it have a white rump, with a thin white tail with a black tip? Most importantly, realize that many mule deer have antlers that are not forked, antlers are not at all a reliable way to tell if the deer is a mule deer or a whitetail.

The tail is the tail of a whitetail but the hair is that of a mule and it also has the bigger white throat latch like a mule. I have been told by one taxidermist that it is a hybrid and told by another that it isn’t.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by remingtonusa

The tail is the tail of a whitetail but the hair is that of a mule and it also has the bigger white throat latch like a mule

Throat patches and color are not reliable methods to identify deer. If the tail is a typical whitetail, the odds are extremely high, that you shot a whitetail deer.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by remingtonusa

The tail is the tail of a whitetail but the hair is that of a mule and it also has the bigger white throat latch like a mule. I have been told by one taxidermist that it is a hybrid and told by another that it isn’t.

White tail , Colorado variations abound in deer .
We saw three white tails this year ( two small bucks and a doe ) and the bigger doe of the three you would have thought was a mule deer until they walked away . It was super dark , but fir sure a white tail
In the field the only thing you need to check is the back end
Cat

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by remingtonusa

I’m sure I got a hybrid this 2018 season. He has really dark hair and real coarse with a whitetail rack. Where do I send a piece of the hide to where it can be tested to verify it?

Post some pictures.

[remingtonusa]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

White tail , Colorado variations abound in deer .
We saw three white tails this year ( two small bucks and a doe ) and the bigger doe of the three you would have thought was a mule deer until they walked away . It was super dark , but fir sure a white tail
In the field the only thing you need to check is the back end
Cat

This one has really coarse hair. I wish I could post pics of what I’m talking about on here

[Bushmaster]

99.99999999999999999999999999% whitetail. Why can't you post pics?

[58thecat]

Yup pics or it never happened......

[remingtonusa]

I’m new to the page and don’t know how to post pics

[Talking moose]

There are way less hybrids out there than the coffee shops would have you believe. Almost an anomaly.

[remingtonusa]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

There are way less hybrids out there than the coffee shops would have you believe. Almost an anomaly.

I know but that doesn’t mean I couldn’t have gotten one. It was living in a bush good for mules. I have seen a few taken out of here over the years

[Bushmaster]

If you want, email them to me and I'll post them for you.

[remingtonusa]

Originally Posted by Bushmaster

If you want, email them to me and I'll post them for you.

Email address?

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by remingtonusa

I know but that doesn’t mean I couldn’t have gotten one. It was living in a bush good for mules. I have seen a few taken out of here over the years

How many of those so called hybrids were verified by a biologist

[Bushmaster]

I'll PM it to you.

[remingtonusa]

Originally Posted by Bushmaster

I'll PM it to you.

Email sent to you. Thanks I appreciate that

[Bushmaster]

Here's the pics I was sent by Remington.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by remingtonusa

This one has really coarse hair. I wish I could post pics of what I’m talking about on here

Fine and dandy but what did the tail look like .
That would be the definitive detail fir deciding in the field what tag to put on it and if you had a tag for it .
Cat

[Peebles]

Three head pictures and none show the gland. Even with that view it would be tricky, but a mule deer has a deeper and longer preorbital (tear) gland. If there were signs of that it might indicate that this ordinary whitetail was a hybrid instead.

[blgoodbrand1]

Any field pics? Pics of the whole deer?


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[Dick284]

Originally Posted by Bushmaster

Here's the pics I was sent by Remington.

Pretty un definitive I’d say.

OP, do you have any real pictures of this deer?

Like of the whole head and antlers, and of the whole body, and preferably the butt end.......

Why is this whole thread mired in quasi secrecy?

[nube]

What is with so many people this year thinking they shot a hybrid deer? I'm starting to wonder how many people have trouble identifying deer these days

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by nube

I'm starting to wonder how many people have trouble identifying deer these days

Same here.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by nube

What is with so many people this year thinking they shot a hybrid deer? I'm starting to wonder how many people have trouble identifying deer these days

It makes a person wonder.

[buckbrush]

Originally Posted by nube

What is with so many people this year thinking they shot a hybrid deer? I'm starting to wonder how many people have trouble identifying deer these days

I was wondering the same thing. Thousands of deer I have watched both up close and through glass, not one ever came off as a hybrid.

Hybrid threads outnumber Power Engineer threads this year!

[HunterDave]

In Ontario we called those dark whitetail deer “bush bucks”. The farmland ones were brown like most here but the bush bucks were always dark like that. Ears and brow tine look WT to me......it’s just darker than most.

[Joe Black]

Did it jump, hop, jump and hop, or jump then hop(or hop then jump) before you shot it?