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09-03-2020, 06:48 PM
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Backswimmers...anyone...bueller
Hey, just wondering if backswimmers have made a showing yet around central or North? Want to spend some quality time next week
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09-03-2020, 08:30 PM
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I've seen a few (very few) at Spring Lake and heard of a few seen at Muir but no rises/swirls to indicate any serious interest by our finny friends.
I'm still working suspended chironomids with some modest success!
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09-03-2020, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Flyguy
I've seen a few (very few) at Spring Lake and heard of a few seen at Muir but no rises/swirls to indicate any serious interest by our finny friends.
I'm still working suspended chironomids with some modest success!
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Yes. Backswimmers were very active at Sundance in Calgary today. They kept landing in the boat. Trout weren’t racing for the splashes yet. They were hitting a backswimmers stripped back just below the surface.
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09-03-2020, 10:35 PM
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Backswimmers, is there anything better than a warm fall day with backswimmers splashing down and trout feeding with abandon. There must be, but I cannot think of it. Yes I know there are better and more important things, but but a hot backswimmer afternoon? Good times.
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09-03-2020, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pikergolf
Backswimmers, is there anything better than a warm fall day with backswimmers splashing down and trout feeding with abandon. There must be, but I cannot think of it. Yes I know there are better and more important things, but but a hot backswimmer afternoon? Good times.
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early summer, calm lake and a flying ant hatch ...
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09-04-2020, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pikergolf
Backswimmers, is there anything better than a warm fall day with backswimmers splashing down and trout feeding with abandon. There must be, but I cannot think of it. Yes I know there are better and more important things, but but a hot backswimmer afternoon? Good times.
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This all day. Yes there are tons of amazing hatches. It is the ferocity of the attack during a backswimmer frenzy...can't wait.
Thanks for the updates all! I'm hoping I see one of the days in the upcoming week. Weather looks to be lining up
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09-04-2020, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pikergolf
Backswimmers, is there anything better than a warm fall day with backswimmers splashing down and trout feeding with abandon. There must be, but I cannot think of it. Yes I know there are better and more important things, but but a hot backswimmer afternoon? Good times.
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Since you asked...the sedge hatch in the Kamloops region is tough to beat, or floating hoppers for big browns. But a backswimmers are a hell of alot of fun too.
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09-05-2020, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
Yes. Backswimmers were very active at Sundance in Calgary today. They kept landing in the boat. Trout weren’t racing for the splashes yet. They were hitting a backswimmers stripped back just below the surface.
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Great picture. What did u use for the photo?
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09-05-2020, 06:46 PM
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I’m hoping to get some of my first baotman/back swimmer action. Anyone have any good patterns/recipes to try ?
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09-06-2020, 08:26 AM
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Check out Phil Rowley's website.
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09-06-2020, 07:28 PM
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Great picture. What did u use for the photo?
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09-06-2020, 10:33 PM
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09-18-2020, 09:41 PM
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It was raining boatmen from 2 - 4 pm today.
I suspect some people want to know what they look like.
Photos are always nice.
Should help folks tie their flies.
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09-18-2020, 10:00 PM
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09-19-2020, 06:33 AM
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Just google backswimmer fly patterns. SFOTF did a sxs on the Ultimate boatman ,which is my fav.Rowley's got some also.Don't just think that you have to have foam in the pattern.A very simple pattern . size 10 scud hook.Peacock herl body,with dark blk plastic [garbage bag] strip pulled over the peacock..Definitely increase your tipet size,vicous strikes.Don't handle the live bug,they have stingers .Similiar to a wasp....
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09-19-2020, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tallieho
Just google backswimmer fly patterns. SFOTF did a sxs on the Ultimate boatman ,which is my fav.Rowley's got some also.Don't just think that you have to have foam in the pattern.A very simple pattern . size 10 scud hook.Peacock herl body,with dark blk plastic [garbage bag] strip pulled over the peacock..Definitely increase your tipet size,vicous strikes.Don't handle the live bug,they have stingers .Similiar to a wasp....
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A simple foam boatman works great. I like the black plastic bag idea. I use 12 lb test. Saves getting broke off for sure.
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09-19-2020, 12:50 PM
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Backswimmers
They were dropping the other day at a local eastern Alberta lake, but trout didn’t seem too interested just yet.
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09-21-2020, 07:09 PM
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Can't figure out what's going on in the Stony Plain area trout lakes. Fished Muir on Saturday and today and never saw a rise or swirl both days, nada. Fortunately Plan B with a wooly bugger worked for some good sized browns and rainbows. The water in Muir is very murky, visibility today was maybe about 2ft. I didn't see today's big 'bow in the water until brought to the net.
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09-22-2020, 07:27 AM
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Can't figure out what's going on in the Stony Plain area trout lakes. Fished Muir on Saturday and today and never saw a rise or swirl both days, nada. Fortunately Plan B with a wooly bugger worked for some good sized browns and rainbows. The water in Muir is very murky, visibility today was maybe about 2ft. I didn't see today's big 'bow in the water until brought to the net.
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Took my tube out to Muir after work on Thursday last week and Wednesday the week before. Both times the water was very murky. Seeing some backswimmers around, only a few swirls. But as you said, the fish were not really on to them.
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09-22-2020, 07:37 AM
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You didn't miss much at Spring on Saturday.
Very, very slow.
Last Thursday afternoon was a head scratcher.
Beautiful warm day, low wind and there were backswimmers and boatman all over the place.
Hardly a rise.
Tried bead head boatman in different colors/patterns, foam boatman, ultimate boatman, different patterns and sizes of backswimmers. Floating and sink tip line. Nada.
A couple 10"-12" on a olive leech.
Weird.
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09-24-2020, 01:34 PM
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Muir for sure
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09-25-2020, 07:52 AM
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Turnover? Still? That's three weeks in a row that I've been there and the water is just as stained. On my float tube and I can't see my fins until they break the surface. I was there on the 10th, the 17th and the 22nd this week. Same every time. Can turnover last that long? I thought it only lasts a few days, maybe a week at the latest. We haven't had any rain so that's not contributing to anything. Could it have anything to do with decaying plant life?
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09-25-2020, 08:29 AM
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Turnover? Still? That's three weeks in a row that I've been there and the water is just as stained. On my float tube and I can't see my fins until they break the surface. I was there on the 10th, the 17th and the 22nd this week. Same every time. Can turnover last that long? I thought it only lasts a few days, maybe a week at the latest. We haven't had any rain so that's not contributing to anything. Could it have anything to do with decaying plant life?
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Could be.
Certainly sounds like something other than turnover lasting that long.
Apparently it was an old dump many, many years ago but that is not likely a factor now.
It has been a few years since regularly fishing Muir but I don't recall it turning murky during September.
Then again I don't have a great memory for certain things.
Has anyone been to salters, star, hasse, chickakoo or any other small pothole lake in the Edmonton area lately?
Any notice of cloudy or murky conditions?
Spring is clear but the fishing is poor.
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10-01-2020, 07:36 AM
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Went to Muir last night. Beautiful evening but the fishing was slow. Hooked on good fish on a minnow pattern but he broke me off. Saw the odd riser but no real backswimmer activity. Tried boatman, leech and minnow patterns. I did not see anyone else land any fish. Water temperature was in the high fifties. Very disappointing outing considering this is supposed to be when the fishing heats up. Water has been murky all year at Muir.
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10-01-2020, 08:33 AM
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I floated Cardiff yesterday late afternoon. Nothing on boatman/backswimmer. Landed five, 2 of which were 10", on small Hare's Ear
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