30-06 Ruger American vs Winchester XPR

Double Dropper · #1 03-27-2017, 02:00 PM

Looking at a lightweight 30-06 bolt gun and I like both if these, Have a BAR and a Rem 7600 in 30-06 tones of brass and reloading goodies, normally shoot a 300 Win mag ( have a couple ) but would like potentially to go back to the 06, thoughts on these two rifles?

1. no I don't want another caliber
2. no don't want to spend a $1000, want to put the money into optics.
3. Yes love the 06. 165 grain bullets @ 2950 are killers.
4. will be used for Whiteys and elk.
5. no I don't want a tikka
6. please stick to the two rifles please.

700-223 · #2 03-27-2017, 09:07 PM

Have a ruger American rimfire. Pretty pleased with it. 17 hmr, total tack driver and trigger is surprisingly good. Have a Ruger 10/22 as well and am a fan of the manufacturer in general. Magazines are cheap and widely available, all of reviews I've ever read on it are positive. Have handled them a bunch, only handled a xpr once but didn't like it's feel or look as much.

I don't know how the price compares, but unless the winchesters > $100 cheaper I'd go with the ruger for sure.

Other thing about my ruger American rimfire... It's good practice for my tikka 243

Koschenk · #3 03-27-2017, 09:26 PM

Never tried out the Winchester but my buddy runs the Ruger in a 308 and it's real accurate and feels good.

Okotokian · #4 03-27-2017, 09:27 PM

Shot neither, but for your reading pleasure...

http://www.fieldandstream.com/articl...&lnk=read-more

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/...fle?page=0%2C0

I like/trust Petzal and he likes them both. I'd choose whichever one you like to look at or feels good shouldering.

Scottmisfits · #5 03-27-2017, 10:04 PM

I've had two Americans and I enjoyed them both. I had a 30-06 and a 22-250. The 30-06 liked the Federal blue box and the 22-250 likes Winchester Super X.

Huntsman · #6 03-28-2017, 10:50 AM

I picked up an XPR before Xmas for a good deal at WSS,
It's the promo model which came with bases, rings and spare mag. It shares similar characteristics as the A-Bolt. So for I like it a lot and it shoots pretty darn accurate with my reloads and even surprised me when I shot a 5 shot group at 300yds with Winchester factory 180gr Silvertips. I handled the American and didn't like the stock, it felt flimsy and narrow.
It's no model 70 but I think I made a good purchase on a synthetic stocked bolt action hunting rifle for under $600.

300yard group, last two shots were flyers!

700-223 · #7 03-28-2017, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Okotokian

Shot neither, but for your reading pleasure...

http://www.fieldandstream.com/articl...&lnk=read-more

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/...fle?page=0%2C0

I like/trust Petzal and he likes them both. I'd choose whichever one you like to look at or feels good shouldering.

Interesting - sounds like you can't go wrong with either! Go with the one that feels better to you I'd say.

Double Dropper · #8 03-28-2017, 04:21 PM

Cool unfortunately I put no stock in magazine article, anybody can use google lol, just looking for opinions from others who have tried these or have friends who have tested. Thanks

bigwolf · #9 03-28-2017, 04:46 PM

I bought a Ruger American 270 3 years ago. It will shoot sub moa with 150gr fusions all day long. Going to to try hornady superformance this weekend.Great Trigger and I really like the bolt and clip compared to other value rifles.

It works great, feels great and is a tac driver. Awesome value.

Okotokian · #10 04-03-2017, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Double Dropper

Cool unfortunately I put no stock in magazine article, anybody can use google lol, ...

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It kind of surprises me a bit, I just read an article on a rifle I was looking to purchase in a reputable magazine...

Gee whiz. You could simply have said "thanks for your input", or said nothing, and moved on.

gtr · #11 04-02-2017, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 700-223

Interesting - sounds like you can't go wrong with either! Go with the one that feels better to you I'd say.

That sounds like good advise to me.

Double Dropper · #12 04-03-2017, 09:44 AM

I think they are both pretty close hmmmmm like the thoughts back and forth for sure. May have to go and play with these two to see which one feels better!

100zero · #13 04-02-2017, 09:02 AM

2 family members of mine work in the hunting outdoors industry. We actually had this conversation yesterday. They both don't like the XPR and both are having a hard time selling them. I have no experience with the XPR but I do have the Ruger American Predator (the version with the green stock) I bought it cause it was a good price and had a extra scope at home. I'm super happy with it. It's accurate, light and has a nice trigger. For the prices it's great. Are there better rifles for a couple hundred more? Yes. But I have full confidence that a decent shooter can make a kill shot out to 400 no problem.

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Double Dropper · #14 04-06-2017, 10:02 PM

Yes 2 mags and bases and rings

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Huntsman · #15 04-06-2017, 11:25 PM

Good deal!!
That's close to $100 cheaper than what I paid at WSS.

Double Dropper · #16 04-09-2017, 09:55 AM

Shot it yesterday after a trigger adjustment, shoots decent still, better than my Weatherby Vanguard, magazine is a bit hokey, but it works, tried a variety of handloaded and factory loads, will eventually have to find a nice"lightweight" stock for it.

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Scottmisfits · #17 04-09-2017, 01:14 PM

What about it is better than your Vangaurd? Is it an S1 or an S2? My son has an S2 and we both like it quite a bit.

700-223 · #18 04-09-2017, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Dropper

Shot it yesterday after a trigger adjustment, shoots decent still, better than my Weatherby Vanguard, magazine is a bit hokey, but it works, tried a variety of handloaded and factory loads, will eventually have to find a nice"lightweight" stock for it.

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Congratulations on your new rifle!

Double Dropper · #19 04-10-2017, 03:33 PM

Thanks, the more I play with it the more I like it.

MontanahuntingDad · #20 10-14-2017, 03:56 AM

A few years ago, I purchased 2 Americans in .308 for my 2 boys to use. Each were about $300 U.S. at the time, minus scope and rings. Americans are accurate enough for my purposes (+/_ 1 MOA with most factory ammo) but the stocks are flimsy at best and have a "V" block bedding system that is a bit tricky to glass bed. Several of the magazines I have do not feed reliably. The stock trigger is fine and easy to adjust (I also cut 1.5 coils off for a 2 lbs. pull). Bolt is better than the Axis but not butter smooth. Matte finish is as expected at this price

I purchased an XPR this July in 300 WSM without bases or rings for just under $300 after $100 rebait. The trigger is nice and crisp and easy to adjust. The stock is much more solid than the American, no flex felt or observed. The recoil lug fit a bit loose, but was easy to glass bed the stock. The magazine feeds well so far. Bolt is somewhat stiff to work but I expect it will smooth out as I cycle it more. Finish is matte. I can shoot 0.8-1 MOA at best with hornady precision hunter ammo. No big complaints about the gun. It's another decent budget Rifle. Both rifles will get the job done for almost any hunting scenario, but so far I prefer the XPR.

Don_Parsons · #21 10-14-2017, 06:27 AM

I just about jumped on the Savage Axis this summer, but my wallet was to thick when I walked into the store. Ha.

Seen lots of folks at the range this year with Axis's and XPR's.

Both units work good, and they seem to offer the quality to price point which is good for those that like the idea of a back up second rifle or to have it as their main shooter.

Glad to hear you found something that will work for you.

Don