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12-14-2016, 03:42 PM
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best 2506 bullet???
I was wondering what is the best bullet to use in my 2506 for shooting elk????AND the best loads you have figured out if you want to share.
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12-14-2016, 03:54 PM
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I would use 120 grain nosler partition.
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12-14-2016, 04:09 PM
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12-14-2016, 04:18 PM
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Nosler 120 grain
I reload though because my rifle doesn't like the off the shelf 120 grain Nosler Partition
The Hornady 117 SST are very good
Barnes makes a decent round as well
I use 120 Partitions on moose and Elk
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12-14-2016, 04:35 PM
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well........
I like the 115 Partitions for bigger stuff and the 120gr Hornady HP for deer although they also kill elk...100gr devastating on antelope....Harold
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12-14-2016, 04:38 PM
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We use the Nosler 110 Accubond if we can find them.
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12-14-2016, 05:00 PM
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Although I don't reload I use the 115gr partitions exclusively from deer up to moose.
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12-14-2016, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bulletman
We use the Nosler 110 Accubond if we can find them.
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My gun came in today
I'll be looking for the 110 Accubonds for it too. For now I just bought two boxes of hornady 117 superformance factory loads. Just bought a scope, hopefully it'll be here by the weekend so I can test out my new rig!
I'll be keeping an eye on this thread and post my findings when I get some.
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12-14-2016, 05:22 PM
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115 gr. TSX
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12-14-2016, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by north american hunter
I would use 120 grain nosler partition.
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This guy,,,,, if you had to use the 25
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12-14-2016, 06:55 PM
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What kind of recipes you guys runnin with the 115 partitions?
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12-14-2016, 08:03 PM
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115 gr. TSX
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Yup!
Can't beat solid copper for terminal performance. Very important when you shoot large animals with small bullets.
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12-14-2016, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Eagle Trapper
What kind of recipes you guys runnin with the 115 partitions?
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Try a stiff load of R 22 , it seems to work well in the firearms I have loaded for. IMR 4831 is another to look at
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12-14-2016, 08:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAT Hunter
I reload though because my rifle doesn't like the off the shelf 120 grain Nosler Partition
The Hornady 117 SST are very good
Barnes makes a decent round as well
I use 120 Partitions on moose and Elk
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This must be the very first time that I've read or heard SST's and "very good" in the same sentence. A 117 SST on elk????? Seriously?
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12-14-2016, 08:27 PM
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Where does it say that he uses 117gr SST's on elk?
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12-14-2016, 08:30 PM
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Where does it say that he uses 117gr SST's on elk?
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Post #4 seeing as though the topic is elk specific. Next question.
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12-14-2016, 10:50 PM
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This must be the very first time that I've read or heard SST's and "very good" in the same sentence. A 117 SST on elk????? Seriously?
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Have you tried the 117g sst in a 25-06 on game?
Also he specifically wrote 120g partitions for elk.
As for the op i used to exclusivly use 115g ballistic tips friends had very good luck with 110g accubonds as well
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12-15-2016, 12:02 AM
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This must be the very first time that I've read or heard SST's and "very good" in the same sentence. A 117 SST on elk????? Seriously?
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I'm with you. I won't say it won't work but I'd have a hard time agreeing it's a good choice...especially in a smallish cartridge.
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12-15-2016, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dogslayer403
Have you tried the 117g sst in a 25-06 on game?
Also he specifically wrote 120g partitions for elk.
As for the op i used to exclusivly use 115g ballistic tips friends had very good luck with 110g accubonds as well
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I believe the sst and ballistic tip to be very similar and discourage the use of either unless the shot is long enough that the fps slows to under 1800. Then they will act similar to a cup and core type bullet. The cup and core at those speeds will struggle to open up and may not be effective as they should be. A hunter I was with this year shot a nice wt buck with sst 150 grain 308 at 175 yards. A bit high and just to back of the lungs. 6" hole going in, no exit, the back straps were destroyed, little holes in the rear of the front shoulder and the front of the hind quarter. There was zero retention on the bullet. It dropped on the spot but meat lose was ridicules. Needless to say he will never shoot them again. I have also been asked to reload them for friends and refuse to do it unless it's for coyotes and fur us not the end game. Don't get angry and shoot what you want, it's your meat but friends don't let friends use ballistic tips on big game. I can even post the picture of the entrance wound if needed. Let the attacks begin, I'm ready
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12-15-2016, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gitrdun
This must be the very first time that I've read or heard SST's and "very good" in the same sentence. A 117 SST on elk????? Seriously?
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Seen 95 SST's from a 6mm Rem work on a lot of deer, some exit, some don't. Same combo flat-lined a young bull elk pretty good too.
There's a lot of hunting folks out there that don't know what a good bullet or bad bullet is supposed to be....They buy factory ammo or handload, ensure reasonable accuracy is there and go hunt. Find game, wait for game to be in a good position and make an accurate shot... Things just die with no fuss.
I recall one new hunter I gave some rifle/scope advice to and for ammo (he didn't plan on handloading, ever), I recommended going to WSS/Cabela's and buy a few boxes, learn how to shoot and figure out what is the most accurate then stock up. Few years later he's been killing a couple deer a year and he's telling me how well his rifle/scope/ammo combo shoots and kills deer.... Turns out he has been using Hornady factory stuff with a 168 A-max (.308 Win) and had a good stockpile of it.... I wasn't about to tell him he was doing it wrong. It's an expanding bullet and nothing is going to shake off catching one in the rib cage.
Were I loading for a .25-06, I'd look to either the 100 or 115 ballistic tip and not worry about a thing...
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12-15-2016, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm
I believe the sst and ballistic tip to be very similar and discourage the use of either unless the shot is long enough that the fps slows to under 1800. Then they will act similar to a cup and core type bullet. The cup and core at those speeds will struggle to open up and may not be effective as they should be. A hunter I was with this year shot a nice wt buck with sst 150 grain 308 at 175 yards. A bit high and just to back of the lungs. 6" hole going in, no exit, the back straps were destroyed, little holes in the rear of the front shoulder and the front of the hind quarter. There was zero retention on the bullet. It dropped on the spot but meat lose was ridicules. Needless to say he will never shoot them again. I have also been asked to reload them for friends and refuse to do it unless it's for coyotes and fur us not the end game. Don't get angry and shoot what you want, it's your meat but friends don't let friends use ballistic tips on big game. I can even post the picture of the entrance wound if needed. Let the attacks begin, I'm ready
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No attacks neccasary ive used em both in various cartridges on a lot of game and only seen experiences like yours on spine shots. Each to their own i hope less people use em means more on the shelf for me. Cheers
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12-15-2016, 10:01 PM
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I have pretty much shot the 115 gr silver ballistic tips out of my Sendaro since day one. Super accurate. Shot a lot of animals from coyotes to moose. Moose was shot at 300 yards and both bullets found on off side hide.
This year I tried Berger Vlds and the are unreal accurate. Only 1 deer shot with them but great performance so far.
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12-16-2016, 12:50 PM
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80gr ttsx
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12-16-2016, 02:13 PM
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There is another thread going that has some good links but I'll be quick. The ballistic tip and the sst are both cup and core, as well as the accubond, but in the smaller calibers the sst and theballistic tips are thinner walled and are non bonded meaning the lead is not adheared to the outer shell. They explode on impact with little penetration. The accubond is also a cup and core but is bonded meaning the inner lead is attached to the outer shell and on impact the bullet mushrooms for deeper penetration and are designed for a 65 percent retention for hammering in deep. Now, the partition is an H frame and is non bonded. The top part of the bullet does mushroom fast but the lower part of the H holds the bullet together to push it deep. Clearly in the smaller calibers on elk you need penitration not a big splat on the front shoulder with no penitration to the organs. Now on the larger calibers/cartridges the ballistic tip and the sst have thicker outer shells and may hold together better if the speeds don't get out of control or what they are designed for. I still won't use them in bigger stuff. The write ups in the other thread are worth the read. Both of them go through cupband core as well as most common bullets with their individual characteristics.
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12-16-2016, 02:22 PM
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110 gr accubond works very well for Elk.
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12-16-2016, 04:30 PM
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thanks
Thanks for all your replys guys, I think I will look for some 120 gr partitions.
I hope they will shoot out of my rifle ok. if I can remember way back, I don't think the accubonds did. Ok, thanks again.
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Thanks for all your replys guys, I think I will look for some 120 gr partitions.
I hope they will shoot out of my rifle ok. if I can remember way back, I don't think the accubonds did. Ok, thanks again.
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12-16-2016, 07:07 PM
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I shot 120 gr grandslams out of my 257 Arnold for years one tough bullet. You won't be disappointed with the 120 partition. It also never let me down either
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12-16-2016, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fireball
Thanks for all your replys guys, I think I will look for some 120 gr partitions.
I hope they will shoot out of my rifle ok. if I can remember way back, I don't think the accubonds did. Ok, thanks again.
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If your in Calgary or area I can hook u up with a few to try to see if your gun likes them before you buy powder and a box of bullets, ill even go over the recipe with you and chrono info for what I'm shooting, let me know. All the Brownings I've had in that caliber liked the noslers
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Originally Posted by Xbolt7mm
There is another thread going that has some good links but I'll be quick. The ballistic tip and the sst are both cup and core, as well as the accubond, but in the smaller calibers the sst and theballistic tips are thinner walled and are non bonded meaning the lead is not adheared to the outer shell. They explode on impact with little penetration. The accubond is also a cup and core but is bonded meaning the inner lead is attached to the outer shell and on impact the bullet mushrooms for deeper penetration and are designed for a 65 percent retention for hammering in deep. Now, the partition is an H frame and is non bonded. The top part of the bullet does mushroom fast but the lower part of the H holds the bullet together to push it deep. Clearly in the smaller calibers on elk you need penitration not a big splat on the front shoulder with no penitration to the organs. Now on the larger calibers/cartridges the ballistic tip and the sst have thicker outer shells and may hold together better if the speeds don't get out of control or what they are designed for. I still won't use them in bigger stuff. The write ups in the other thread are worth the read. Both of them go through cupband core as well as most common bullets with their individual characteristics.
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Explode on impact! That's great stuff!!
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