Rusty tools on boats- I have found THE answer!

[270person]

Originally Posted by Skull Man

CLR is basically watered down Muriatic Acid (HCL). I've used Muriatic Acid before (heavy caution here) to clean rust out of my Volvo Penta exhaust manifold...worked great! You can find 20% Muriatic acid at your local Canadian Tire but be aware that this is not something you want to get on anything as it is in a much higher concentration.

Link: http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/ro...-0491064p.html

Remember to add acid to water and not water to acid (high exothermic reaction).

CLR isn't muriatic acid. Never was. Used to be a Phosphoric + Citric. Now it's Lactic acid and that's why it doesn't work worth a rats patoot anymore.

[cranky]

Originally Posted by Dean2

Never tried this one. Where do you get it?

Can. Tire sells it in spray can. Not cheap but effective. Its made from lanolin. I learned of it long time ago from a Newfie guy who said he used it to keep rust away from his car. And my old shop mechanic used it instead of WD 40. It sticks to metal like glue. I sprayed up along the inside bottom of my truck doors as a example and in the morning i will find it creeping up the outside. You can go to the car wash lots of times and its still there. I used it on my bike chains for years. It does collect dust which wipes off but not the product.

Anyway dont want to hijack Kens thread to much. The stuff he uses is great to for what he uses it for. Absolutely.

[270person]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

I have tried several ways to remove rust in the past, but just found the magic potion. For only $24.99 I will tell you how to rid...

nah, just kidding.

I took some Home Hardware brand CLR and put it in a tennis balls sleeve, soaked everything I could find with rust and it is gone. I have never found a product that actually does what it claims to this percentage.
I had a couple sets of 'professional' wrenches in SAE and Metric that I was sure were going to be thrown out, but overnight in the sleeve and wiped with a rag they are nothing short of new.
Totally seized needle nose pliars now fall open and closed by tipping them over. I had to use 'snipes' to break them loose before the soak. I tried a varsol soak before CLR, did nothing at all. Splash and soak and rinse with WD40, still very hard to move, but in CLR they are factory fresh.

I just started another 'bath', this one a margarine container. I filled it with old sockets, screwdriver bits, a couple very rusty carabiners, and they all came out like new. Amazing stuff.

Now, I have to find a way to prevent rust. Fill the boxes with oil? I bought some great boxes from Can Tire that were on sale, maybe a rag soaked in wd40 on the bottom that they lay on?

You succeeded in removing the rust largely but you have to be careful of products on the acidic end of the pH scale. You should get some lubricant on those tools asap or you may have opened yourself to even more flash rusting.

Also these acidic products, whether organic salts like this one or the old traditional acids can burn softer metals. i.e. stainless steel, aluminum, etc.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by 270person

You succeeded in removing the rust largely but you have to be careful of products on the acidic end of the pH scale. You should get some lubricant on those tools asap or you may have opened yourself to even more flash rusting.

Also these acidic products, whether organic salts like this one or the old traditional acids can burn softer metals. i.e. stainless steel, aluminum, etc.

I did soak them in a light machine oil after wipe down, I wouldn't put anything aluminum or galvanized in it. Pliars, crescents, wrenches, sockets, screwdriver bits, hitch pin, that sort of thing.

[270person]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

I did soak them in a light machine oil after wipe down, I wouldn't put anything aluminum or galvanized in it. Pliars, crescents, wrenches, sockets, screwdriver bits, hitch pin, that sort of thing.

There you go. Good man. Mind me asking what you paid for product? I think you said you bought a one litre.

[270person]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

I wonder how it would work on vehicles?

It'll remove surface rust but once it's had enough time to penetrate it won't do much.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by 270person

There you go. Good man. Mind me asking what you paid for product? I think you said you bought a one litre.

$18.99 for a gallon at home hardware. Price shows 36.99 online, weird

http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/in...520970?Ntt=clr

[Redfrog]

CLR on gun rust? Anyone try it?

[buck12]

Awesome tip. Thks Yes Fluid Film works great too for cleaning and lubricating

[270person]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

CLR on gun rust? Anyone try it?

The name brand CLR doesn't work worth a darn anymore Red. They changed the formula a while back, 2-3 years ballpark, to get greener. Sacrificed a basic but decent chloride cleaner for blah.

Issue with any of the calcium, rust, and lime removers is they're low pH, water based. If you get them on and then neutralize them quick you'd be ok for removing surface rust. As I mentioned earlier you'd want to get some oil on the surface pretty quick.

They're all designed for porcelain and plastic tubs/showers and shower doors, toilets, sinks, stone/tile floors and grout. Soap scum, hard water deposits, and scaling.

[gitrdun]

I can only hope that'd I'd spend so much time in my boat that my tools would rust. That would be great and be a measure to as much time I spend on the water. Truly, for this land locked cowboy, it would be the least of my concerns.

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by 270person

The name brand CLR doesn't work worth a darn anymore Red. They changed the formula a while back, 2-3 years ballpark, to get greener. Sacrificed a basic but decent chloride cleaner for blah.

Issue with any of the calcium, rust, and lime removers is they're low pH, water based. If you get them on and then neutralize them quick you'd be ok for removing surface rust. As I mentioned earlier you'd want to get some oil on the surface pretty quick.

They're all designed for porcelain and plastic tubs/showers and shower doors, toilets, sinks, stone/tile floors and grout. Soap scum, hard water deposits, and scaling.

Thanks. I have used it for advertised purposes occasionally over the years but have found as you said it ain't what it used to be. It performed so poorly the last time I used it, I said it would be the last time I used it.

[270person]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Thanks. I have used it for advertised purposes occasionally over the years but have found as you said it ain't what it used to be. It performed so poorly the last time I used it, I said it would be the last time I used it.

I can fart more rust and lime deposits off a surface than the new CLR will remove. Mind you...

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by 270person

I can fart more rust and lime deposits off a surface than the new CLR will remove. Mind you...

Ok, a little test...

I have 2 identical hitch pins, 9/16ths x 6"....

I will insert them in the tennis ball sleeve full of CLR,

you insert them in.......


See which one comes out cleaner!

[Dean2]

I want pictures.

[Albertadiver]

Originally Posted by Dean2

I want pictures.

I don't.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by Dean2

I want pictures.

Why Dean, I never thought you were that......

ummm I mean.....


errr......



not judging at all, I have no problem with which way someone swings a bat, but


ewwwwwwwww

[270person]

Originally Posted by Dean2

I want pictures.

You're a sick man. Seek help immediately.

[brslk]

Trying out some CLR and Envirorust on some rusty sockets.
We'll see how they both work.
BTW, if anyone needs any SAE 1/2" drive sockets, let me know.
I also have a bunch of SAE combo wrenches.
Tons of Metric 1/4" drive sockets also.

[Dona]

I have numerous pairs of side cutters that I seem to leave outside. I left them in CLR for 24 hours and yes they are like brand new!
Thanks for the tip!!!

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by Dona

I have numerous pairs of side cutters that I seem to leave outside. I left them in CLR for 24 hours and yes they are like brand new!
Thanks for the tip!!!

just make sure they get a good wipe of some sort of light oil after you dry them

[brslk]

Well, the Envirorust worked great. The CLR hasn't done much at all. I'll check it again tomorrow but I'm doubtful.

[Reeves1]

I've tried a number of rust melt products & all seem to work not too bad on light rust ..... to some degree.

On bigger parts I'm cleaning I just sand blast, or if it's thin metal like the dash out of one car, I take it to the local rad shop.

Cost is low for 100 % clean , in their acid dip & clean tanks.

Then coat with POR 15 !