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If you don't think the decline is here...
Think again.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3614255/te...etention-pond/
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A group of teenagers who watched and laughed as a man drowned in Florida last week, won’t face any criminal charges.
Jamel Dunn, 31, drowned in a retention pond in the city of Cocoa, Fla., July 12. His body was recovered July 14, two days after his fiancée*reported him missing.
Cocoa police said they later discovered a group of teens recorded his drowning on video. The video was released by the state attorney’s office Thursday and audio was published by Florida Today.
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The teens can be heard laughing at Dunn, telling him he’s going die and they weren’t going to help him.
“Get out the water, you gonna die,” one of the teenagers in the video yelled. “Ain’t nobody fixing to help you,” another one yelled. As Dunn disappears under the water, one of the teenagers is heard saying “Oh, he just died.”
The teenagers did not call 911, according to police.
Dunn’s body was found near the pond days later.
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07-21-2017, 02:37 PM
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Wow...That is cold.
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07-21-2017, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack&7
Wow...That is cold.
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Beyond cold. It's down right evil, disgusting, pathetic and criminal. 
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07-21-2017, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gitrdun
Beyond cold. It's down right evil, disgusting, pathetic and criminal. |
Criminal is right.
I just don't get how you can just stand there and let that happen, then to laugh and mock on top of that. Just wow.
The parents of those kids should feel real proud of the job they did raising their kids.
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07-21-2017, 02:52 PM
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That`s weird and harsh. Me and most everyone I know would have damn near died trying to save him.
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07-21-2017, 03:18 PM
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That's Florida for you
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07-21-2017, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by millartech
Criminal is right.
I just don't get how you can just stand there and let that happen, then to laugh and mock on top of that. Just wow.
The parents of those kids should feel real proud of the job they did raising their kids.
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Won't be charged, apparently not against the law.  Parents of these kids are probably more waste of skin.
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07-21-2017, 03:29 PM
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Wonder why the guy was in there. Did he want to die? There were no arms waving, no splashing. He didn't appear to be in distress. Did they see him walk in?
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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07-21-2017, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
Won't be charged, apparently not against the law. Parents of these kids are probably more waste of skin.
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It's sad nothing can be done.
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07-21-2017, 03:30 PM
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That's Florida for you
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Lots of Good people in Florida. Just not those guys. If you don't think there's losers like that everywhere, you're mistaken.
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07-21-2017, 03:42 PM
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Lots of Good people in Florida. Just not those guys. If you don't think there's losers like that everywhere, you're mistaken.
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Just an observation, look at the news; a large amount of craziness comes from that swamp.
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07-21-2017, 03:44 PM
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[QUOTE=Fisherpeak;3588105]That`s weird and harsh. Me and most everyone I know would have damn near died trying to save him.[/QUOTE]
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I wouldn't waste spending my time with anyone that wouldn't try and save him.
Down right disgusting.
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07-21-2017, 03:48 PM
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Can't charge them, I wish they would release their names. Would probably be hero's among themselves, but at least the rest of us would know who the animals are among us.
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07-21-2017, 03:54 PM
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Can't charge them,.
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I hope the law never can. I don't want to be held responsible for some other person's Darwinian moment. I may try to save an individual, but I don't want to be charged and have to defend myself if I judge it to be too dangerous or that I didn't realize they were actually in distress.
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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07-21-2017, 04:06 PM
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One of the sickest videos I've ever watched.
That's all I'm going to say about that. My membership is more valuable than making any further comments on the topic.
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07-21-2017, 07:23 PM
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If you check the link now, there is an update.
The police have found an obscure law to charge these slimeballs under.
It doesn't mention penalties, but I hope jail time is allowed.
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07-21-2017, 07:24 PM
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Yup, Cold Hearted for sure.
Karma will be visiting them one day.
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Originally Posted by Okotokian
I hope the law never can. I don't want to be held responsible for some other person's Darwinian moment. I may try to save an individual, but I don't want to be charged and have to defend myself if I judge it to be too dangerous or that I didn't realize they were actually in distress.
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Not many situation where your life would be in danger calling 911 instead of using your cell phone to video an event.
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07-21-2017, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
If you check the link now, there is an update.
The police have found an obscure law to charge these slimeballs under.
It doesn't mention penalties, but I hope jail time is allowed.
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Hopefully it will get their names out there.
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07-21-2017, 09:59 PM
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What is a retention pond? Sounds like a place it would not be very smart to go for a swim in.
The response saying youre gonna die might be because that is a really bad place to go for a swim and no one will jump in because of said risk.
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07-21-2017, 10:07 PM
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Florida
Im not defending these freaks at all, they must be the lowest of the low to record something like that but I'm not sure I'd be willing to jump into any body of water in Florida, I've heard too many 'Gator stories.
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07-21-2017, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Okotokian
I hope the law never can. I don't want to be held responsible for some other person's Darwinian moment. I may try to save an individual, but I don't want to be charged and have to defend myself if I judge it to be too dangerous or that I didn't realize they were actually in distress.
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It already does here in Canada. OHAS laws require you to intervene if you see someone's doing something stupid at work that could get themselves or someone else hurt or killed. If you don't you are personally liable for whatever happens. I can't remember the exact act but its been in force for quite a few years as I remember having a big meeting about it when it came into law.
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07-21-2017, 10:26 PM
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Lots of weird things in this story. The guy got to the middle of the pond with all his clothes on? and then wants help? I am not a great swimmer, and I have also been told that someone that is drowning can fight you to the point where they will take you with them if you are not properly trained in rescue. Authorities should have been called right away, no maybes here. I believe that the attitude of these boys is not limited to Florida, but here in Canada as well. I hate these snapshot stories that aren't giving the readers the before and after information on what is all going on.
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07-21-2017, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 79ford
What is a retention pond? Sounds like a place it would not be very smart to go for a swim in.
The response saying youre gonna die might be because that is a really bad place to go for a swim and no one will jump in because of said risk.
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And that means it was okay for then to spend their time filming instead of calling 911?
I think your moral compass is a bit off.
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07-21-2017, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TylerThomson
It already does here in Canada. OHAS laws require you to intervene if you see someone's doing something stupid at work that could get themselves or someone else hurt or killed. If you don't you are personally liable for whatever happens. I can't remember the exact act but its been in force for quite a few years as I remember having a big meeting about it when it came into law.
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I was talking about this with a university professor (can't remember if psychology or psychiatry) and he said I should just mind my own business if it does not involve me directly. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that you just shut up and pretend you didn't see anything, and deny everything. You have an idiot at work that is going to get himself killed, you stick your nose in, save him today, next week it is something different and you stick your nose in again, and the cycle just continues, but eventually he may take your life in the process. Everyone has their own opinion.
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07-21-2017, 11:52 PM
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[QUOTE=Okotokian;3588159]I hope the law never can. I don't want to be held responsible for some other person's Darwinian moment. I may try to save an individual, but I don't want to be charged and have to defend myself if I judge it to be too dangerous or that I didn't realize they were actually in distress.[/QUOTE
Not sure how to respond to this one......
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07-22-2017, 06:45 AM
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The true character of some is sure coming out on this threat. Those degenerates should be put away that took this video Sick.
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07-22-2017, 07:14 AM
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Simply sick.
Proud parents no dought.
They will get there's what comes around goes around, another example of the law doesn't step in then others will.
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I'm sure it was during the floods in Calgary and area 3 (?) years ago. There was a video going around of someone trying to drive out of an underground parkade. Their car dies and gets washed back down into the parkade and conceivably was in great danger. In the video you see several people holding up phones and not a one trying to help. This mentality is alive and well in Canada, and for some time.
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