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Old 04-26-2016, 04:15 PM
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How do I catch these things? Just a worm going to keep a guy busy all day or are they on a vegetarian diet? Would be nice to be able to just scoop them up with a net in the spring when th irrigation water comes but I suspect that's illegal.

Perhaps it needs to be made legal?

Anyways, I want to go catch a bunch. Pointers anybody?
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Old 04-26-2016, 04:38 PM
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Worms, Corn and a thick paste made by combining flour, cornmeal, sugar and water works great too...they school up so once you get into them you'll get a bunch!
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Old 04-26-2016, 04:52 PM
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Using seine nets of a particular size to catch bait is not illegal. It's listed in the regs. And I suppose one could "accidentally" catch some carp in these nets. You know. By total mistake. At that point I think you are obligated to destroy the fish since they are considered invasive.

From the general sportfish regulations:

Collecting Bait Fish

Catching bait fish (such as suckers) by angling, bowfishing or spearfishing
is allowed from all waters open to fishing with these methods, even at
waters where the collection of bait fish by other means is prohibited.
Anglers may collect their own bait fish by minnow trap, dip net and seine
net, but these fish must not be sold. The commercial collection of bait fish
requires a Commercial Bait Fishing Licence. The following regulations
apply to the collection of bait fish for personal use as bait:


- The collection of bait fish is not permitted in waters having a bait
ban or restriction on the use of bait fish, and in some other specified
waters (see Fish Management Zone regulations pages 32 to 84).


- The possession of live bait fish is prohibited. All bait fish kept must
be killed immediately. Please do not kill more than needed because
bait fish are important food for many sport fish.


- Fish other than bait fish must be immediately released unharmed.


And from the Alberta Gov's Prussian Carp quick facts PDF:

If you catch a Prussian Carp while angling, please kill it and
either take it home to eat or properly dispose of the carcass.


Notice the bit of contradiction between the regs and the quick fact wording. The regs say if you catch a non-baitfish in a seine net you must let it go. The Prussian Carp is a non bait fish. However, the government is encouraging anglers to kill these fish.

I'm pretty sure you're fine using a seine net to catch Carp. Just let anything else go.

Links:

General Sportfishing Regs: http://www.albertaregulations.ca/pdf...egulations.pdf

Quick facts: http://aep.alberta.ca/recreation-pub...rp-May2015.pdf

Edit: the regs also say dip nets are fine; again, you should be using them to catch bait fish. I'm guessing that deliberately catching carp would probably be OK, but it's definitely a grey area as far as I can tell.
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Old 04-26-2016, 05:39 PM
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OP, if you want a buddy when you go let me know! I want to get them on a fly haha
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Old 04-27-2016, 06:55 AM
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edit...those weren't Prussian carp I saw.
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:36 AM
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I guess I could ask my friendly neighborhood fish cop for his opinion.

How large of a dip net are you allowed for bait fish?
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Old 04-27-2016, 10:16 AM
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I guess I could ask my friendly neighborhood fish cop for his opinion.

How large of a dip net are you allowed for bait fish?
For seine nets the regs say no wider than 3m and no taller than 2m. I couldn't find anything on dip nets, but it's unlikely you could practically use a dip net larger than 3m x 2m. They probably don't set a size limit to dip nets since their size is ultimately limited by one's ability to use them.
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:36 AM
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Hey Marty....here is how to catch a 180 lb carp:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04...ound-carp.html
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Old 05-19-2016, 01:52 PM
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Buddy caught one of these on a dry fly yesterday on the RDR. There was a school of about 15 and he dropped the fly just past them and let it float through the school.

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I was out at DeWitt;s Pond May 13, 2016 and I could not believe what I was witnessing.

There were six new Canadians using those real long fishing rods +15' - 20' and catching carp. They did not keep the small rainbows only the carp.

The fellow beside me brought in 20 of these carp in a matter of an hour. He was using a whole wheat flour thick paste on about a #14 hook. The carp were 3"-5" long.

He would set the hook out about 20' from shore with a bobber.
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Old 05-19-2016, 04:19 PM
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Caught a decent sized one just a couple nights ago in a seine net catching bait.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:39 PM
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Because carp aren't a game fish a person can bow fish for them.

If you want to fish for them garlic scented dough balls would probably work good.
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Saw this in chestermere ... obviously not the species you are talking about because it was about 18 inches or so.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:06 PM
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There are lots of them out there. Northeast and east of Calgary they are all over and piles of them in all kinds of reservoirs.
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Saw this in chestermere ... obviously not the species you are talking about because it was about 18 inches or so.
Body of a sucker, snout of a rocky...
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Body of a sucker, snout of a rocky...
could it be a longnose sucker?
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could it be a longnose sucker?
Good call. I believe your right!
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Scales look too big to be a longnose sucker. Probably a white sucker, nose just screwed up or something.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:56 PM
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How do I catch these things?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peSzPa-ynpk
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:18 PM
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Body of a sucker, snout of a rocky...

Scales look to be the size of the White Sucker or even larger (so not a Longnose). The maxilla/ premaxilla look to possibly be detached as it is dead specemin, giving off the appearance of another fish like the RMW
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:24 PM
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Wrong kind of carp but on a serious topic, Dewitts, certain stretches of the RDR, the lower Bow, and other sloughs,
(Behind the Home Depot perhaps? ) could benefit from Electroshocking or complete nettings of contaminated still waters so that "anglers" that put them in there don't benefit from the ill effects of their releases.
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Anyone know where I can catch carp here in Alberta?And with what bait.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:43 PM
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Wrong kind of carp but on a serious topic, Dewitts, certain stretches of the RDR, the lower Bow, and other sloughs,
(Behind the Home Depot perhaps? ) could benefit from Electroshocking or complete nettings of contaminated still waters so that "anglers" that put them in there don't benefit from the ill effects of their releases.
The one in tuscany? i have seen people fishing it but i always doubted it had fish even carp.
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