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08-16-2012, 02:16 PM
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arm peace officers petition
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08-16-2012, 02:52 PM
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Peace officers in fort mac with guns? God save us
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08-16-2012, 02:54 PM
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08-16-2012, 03:09 PM
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LOL reminds me of some classic Iron Maiden lyrics.....
"Let him who hath understanding recon the number of the beast"
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08-16-2012, 03:12 PM
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Recent issues apart, no way I want the ding-a-lings in Okotoks packing. Nobody I know in this town can stand them.
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08-16-2012, 04:02 PM
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I'm sure there's some good ones but most are just mall cops
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08-16-2012, 04:15 PM
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Why are they "peace officers" not real police officers?
I do not trust these wanna be policemen.
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08-16-2012, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hunterbobthebuilder
I'm sure there's some good ones but most are just mall cops
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Got one in the county. I'll bet she pushes the scale at 350. One thing to pack a gun, quite another having the ability and judgement when to use it. Some of those guys are scary. One of the hazards of the job. We haven't heard yet exactly what brought the shooting about. It's First degree only cause it involves a Peace officer.
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08-17-2012, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Okotokian
Recent issues apart, no way I want the ding-a-lings in Okotoks packing. Nobody I know in this town can stand them.
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X2 Okie, some of the ones in Red Deer county watched "Smokey and the Bandit" one to many times I swear
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08-17-2012, 09:45 PM
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Pesky --- absolutely right about the coaches...and the list goes on. Interesting how one death has ignited the cop wannabes to want to carry.
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08-16-2012, 10:10 PM
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u still have to call everyone with 100 clicks of where ur going if u got a gun because we all fear for are selves jk
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08-16-2012, 10:52 PM
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08-16-2012, 10:54 PM
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Sorry I can't do it.
Some of the comments here are a bit over the top but I see no reason to support arming a guy and giving him a badge if he has no better training than I do...when I can't buy a hand gun and take it out plinking at any range or for that matter any safe place.
Without proper training a situation like we just had could have just as easily resulted in a dead man and a baddy that was then armed with his weapon.
If the job is too dangerous they should bring a cop along for the ride.
Besides...where does it stop?
Peace officers, by-law, health inspectors, the guy that reads your gas meter?
Pretty soon we have a police state and the only people packing are the ones that are increasingly regulating our lives and baddies.
We...average folks get caught in the squeeze and treated like cattle.
It is a shame that poor man was killed and it was entirely preventable but arming them isn't the only solution.
How about creating a few more jobs so these guys don't have to travel alone?
How about maintaining a file on guys with a history of being difficult and making sure that either a police officer or another Peace officer accompanies?
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08-16-2012, 11:02 PM
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No, arming them would just entice them to go beyond their authority, finding courage in a gun. They should have the sense to back out of a situation that would require them to carry and let properly trained professionals handle it. Standing on someone’s step and forcing your authority down a citizens throat, “because you can” is wrong, doing it by yourself, foolish. Canadians are getting pretty pizzed off with the killing, kicking, punching and false arrests while rapists get a slap on the back, a well done and a four year holiday.
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08-16-2012, 11:45 PM
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I signed it but I thought that the peace officers already were strapped in Ft.McMurray?
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08-17-2012, 12:26 AM
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Watching the news I found it ironic that they (peace officers) were talking about the need for a firearm using the same reasoning that CCW supporters, and right to armed self defense proponents use "we need a better way to defend ourselves when situations arise, because the resources (read: people that have firearms for defense purposes aka the police) are sometimes several minutes away"
I agree 110% that people should have the right to an adequate self defense for any situation that arises, but I can't bring myself to sign a petition that singles out a specific group for that right. I hope they do get it, and the proper training that is absolutely required for it, just like I hope all citizens get the right to an equal self defense.
This world is getting more, and more, violent by the day as populations increase exponentially and if you figure 1 out of 10,000,000 (a completely abstract figure plucked out of the air) is a crazy person that has no qualms about evil intentions, there will be a steady increase as the population increases. It's basic statistics. People are violent (not all), and have been violent ever since there were 2 humans living in close proximity to one another. As there are more people, there will be more violence. There is no denying it, and no way around it. The rates may change from region to region, but it still exists.
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08-17-2012, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
I signed it but I thought that the peace officers already were strapped in Ft.McMurray?
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I dont think so Cat,I have a friend up your way,he works as a Community Peace Officer( I think its for Wood Buffalo) he isnt allowed to carry a side arm
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08-17-2012, 07:13 PM
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