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Old 08-26-2019, 08:04 PM
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Anyone have any experiences with outdoor home security cameras. There’s a lot of car breaks ins and odd goings on in my neighbourhood like people looking into basement window wells at night. My wife wants a home camera system similar to the Aldo 2 pro systems their not cheap and I don’t want to get stuck with a sub par system. I don’t live on a busy street and my car is parked about 25’ from the house. Would need something that could record at night about that far.

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Old 08-26-2019, 09:05 PM
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I'm also interested, most recently so I can catch the little skank that I'm pretty sure is responsible for not picking up after her dogs outside my fence along my alley and also well into my parking area on my private property. I've been thinking of posting some signs on the fence noting what might happen once I've got evidence on camera. I've noticed that she leaves her car windows open while parked, which seems to me a reasonable spot to return her 'lost property'. I'm wavering between the hood and the drivers seat to use as a lost & found.
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:31 PM
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I'm also interested, most recently so I can catch the little skank that I'm pretty sure is responsible for not picking up after her dogs outside my fence along my alley and also well into my parking area on my private property. I've been thinking of posting some signs on the fence noting what might happen once I've got evidence on camera. I've noticed that she leaves her car windows open while parked, which seems to me a reasonable spot to return her 'lost property'. I'm wavering between the hood and the drivers seat to use as a lost & found.
If it’s soft you could pack it under the wiper blades for a nice surprise on a rainy day.

Packing it in the door handle works too.
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Old 08-26-2019, 10:05 PM
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Could just toss out a cheap game camera for that caber. 2 legged drug addicts are robbing cars and trailers taking garage door openers emptying out detached garages and trying to come in from attached ones. Be careful what you leave in your cars people these urban rats will take what ever they can get to turn into money. They got me for nothing this time, I emptied out the car a few weeks ago but it would be nice to see what they look like just not sure if the cost of a camera system is worth the cost of the nothing they have been able to steal from me. Maybe a doorbell camera In the front and back doors with motion lights would be a better way to go.
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Old 08-26-2019, 10:18 PM
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I built my house and pre-wired many spots for cameras. I'm going to be trenching in some conduit over to the fence at the parking area both for motion sensor lighting as well as security too. I plan on being crafty in terms of placement and concealment. I may put in something obvious as well, whether that/those will be dummy or real is undetermined.
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Old 08-27-2019, 12:46 AM
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I've been using a Lorex wireless camera system for about 6 years now without issue. They work great, have good range and the picture quality is excellent. Even had a cop say he was impressed when he came to get some footage of a person stealing off my front porch. I also use the app on my phone. I get notified of any motion in front of the camera and can view them from anywhere. It's a four camera system that I bought at Best Buy for around $400 at the time.
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:09 AM
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One thing I notice on lots of security footage is that the angle from high mounted cameras seems to be known by criminals and you just get images of the top of their hoodie and/or ball cap. I like the images from the doorbell cameras as they’re mounted low by comparison and have a way better chance of getting a good facial image of an offender. With obvious security cameras in other locations this becomes an issue as they’re then accessible to block with a plastic bag or tape, etc or even to have the wiring vandalized.
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:24 PM
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Just wondering if anyone who has put up cameras has been robbed or broken into while cameras were up? Did they catch the ones involved? Reason why I ask is I got broken into in early April and two of my neighbours have cameras and footage and pictures of the two that broke in and the vehicle involved. Took over 25 grand worth (ouch big time). CPS said car was stolen and they probably stalked your house and a third was involved at the front door. Wife was gone 2 1/2 hrs. Nothing ever found and they got away. To me you get to see who took your stuff. The pup that I use to have was way more of a deterrent. You come in uninvited and he would let you know you were trespassing. Leave the door open and he would still stay inside doing his job
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:47 PM
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Just wondering if anyone who has put up cameras has been robbed or broken into while cameras were up? Did they catch the ones involved? Reason why I ask is I got broken into in early April and two of my neighbours have cameras and footage and pictures of the two that broke in and the vehicle involved. Took over 25 grand worth (ouch big time). CPS said car was stolen and they probably stalked your house and a third was involved at the front door. Wife was gone 2 1/2 hrs. Nothing ever found and they got away. To me you get to see who took your stuff. The pup that I use to have was way more of a deterrent. You come in uninvited and he would let you know you were trespassing. Leave the door open and he would still stay inside doing his job
You are correct.... cops wont do anything even with video. When I put my cameras up it was less then a week, got a notification in the middle of the night that the camera detected motion..... caught the kid, had a couple neighbours over that were victims of this punk. We dealt with it ourselves rather then call the cops.
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:54 PM
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It's more a deterrent than anything. It's kind of like having a "beware of dog" sign yet you don't have a dog.

Typically theifs go for easy pickens. if they see an alarm or camera, they will probably more on.

I have both (alarm & cameras), but I use the cameras to check what's going on if the alarm goes off or there was suspicious activity in the neighbourhood.

Footage is rarely used (or useable).
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Old 08-27-2019, 05:06 PM
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If I caught them I would be the one in jail. Numerus charges, holding against their will, assault, unnecessary force and it could go on. I was even told by animal bylaw and CPS if my dog hurts someone breaking into my house by biting them I can be charged and my buddy being put down. BS. He did his job and I would fight to end to protect him cause he is protecting his domain. I would probably win but that's BS cause someone wants to take everything I worked hard to acquire.
Was also told do not get a sign that says beware of dog cause that hints they could be vicious. Get one that says dog in yard. Go figure
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If I caught them I would be the one in jail. Numerus charges, holding against their will, assault, unnecessary force and it could go on. I was even told by animal bylaw and CPS if my dog hurts someone breaking into my house by biting them I can be charged and my buddy being put down. BS. He did his job and I would fight to end to protect him cause he is protecting his domain. I would probably win but that's BS cause someone wants to take everything I worked hard to acquire.
Was also told do not get a sign that says beware of dog cause that hints they could be vicious. Get one that says dog in yard. Go figure
I'd like to know who told you this because it's BS.
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Old 08-28-2019, 11:32 AM
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I have the Lorex Wireless cameras from Costco. They work pretty good. My mistake was buying the 2 pack not the 4 pack. That and the wireless don't work well in the cold and only record if there is movement that triggers the camera. For that reason I would get the wired system.

My folks got the 4 camera wired Lorex from Costco. Having some difficulty getting the sensitivity settings correct. I would go with constant record with motion notification. That way if something happened outside of the motion detect you could go back and look at the recording.

The night vision on the wired cameras is really good.
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:00 PM
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I'd like to know who told you this because it's BS.


Maybe it’s a bylaw thing. Our bylaw officer told me the same thing. I got signs that said

Dog on premises enter at own risk.


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Old 08-28-2019, 12:10 PM
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Lorex 1080p Indoor/Outdoor Wi-Fi Active Deterrence Wireless IP Camera from Costco. $129.99 per 1 camera.


I just bought 4 of these cameras, 2 weeks ago. My house is wired all around for easy install, the wireless is nice with no wires running into and out of house to a hard drive. Simple just plug in under soffit and download the APP. The Lorex APP and Cameras have ran good so far.
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:11 PM
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Maybe it’s a bylaw thing. Our bylaw officer told me the same thing. I got signs that said

Dog on premises enter at own risk.


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In Calgary it was Animal and Bylaw Services and CPS said the same to me that was quite a few years ago. Even when your not around your dog is not supposed to bite even trying to protect his own. That's BS
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:41 PM
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Do not buy Lorex. They just got a new app that’s terrible. I can’t even log in
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:57 PM
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Do not buy Lorex. They just got a new app that’s terrible. I can’t even log in
Are you using the correct app?

I monitor some properties and have to use Lorex Cirrus, the other one wouldn't work.
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Old 08-28-2019, 08:33 PM
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Just wondering if anyone who has put up cameras has been robbed or broken into while cameras were up? Did they catch the ones involved? Reason why I ask is I got broken into in early April and two of my neighbours have cameras and footage and pictures of the two that broke in and the vehicle involved. Took over 25 grand worth (ouch big time). CPS said car was stolen and they probably stalked your house and a third was involved at the front door. Wife was gone 2 1/2 hrs. Nothing ever found and they got away. To me you get to see who took your stuff. The pup that I use to have was way more of a deterrent. You come in uninvited and he would let you know you were trespassing. Leave the door open and he would still stay inside doing his job
I used to be based just off of 215st, we would leave our vehicles in the yard when we were out of town working (I would get dropped off, refuse to leave my truck like that, for this very reason) and we got hit one night. Broke into all the vehicles in the yard and the boss had it all on video.

He called the cops as soon as he saw all the broken glass in the AM and they came out and took a report but was having no part of the footage. He tried giving him a disk with the break in on it and the cop asked what he wanted him to do with it.

Cameras offer small a layer of protection if they alert you when someone's in your yard, if you have good response time if your not home and for the OP's purpose or have problem neighbors but just putting cameras alone up wont stop theft or deter crackheads, they will pose for them and if you're lucky they won't vandalize or steal them. Definitely a useful tool to have in the tool box though in a multi layered defence.
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:22 PM
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If your sign says "beware of dog" they consider it as you knowing your dog will harm someone. And if that does happen, then you don't have an argument and are pretty much admitting guilt.
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Old 08-29-2019, 05:58 AM
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If your sign says "beware of dog" they consider it as you knowing your dog will harm someone. And if that does happen, then you don't have an argument and are pretty much admitting guilt.
Dog food does not talk.........becomes poop.....just saying.....
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Old 08-29-2019, 07:16 AM
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If you have a dog and a sign that says, VICIOUS DOG, BE WHERE, or whatever, you have already acknowledge that the dog is vicious and therefore will bite. It is wrong, I know, but there it is.
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Old 08-29-2019, 11:09 AM
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Dog food does not talk.........becomes poop.....just saying.....
We should market signs that say "trespassers will be turned into dog poop"
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Old 08-29-2019, 12:15 PM
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If you have a dog and a sign that says, VICIOUS DOG, BE WHERE, or whatever, you have already acknowledge that the dog is vicious and therefore will bite. It is wrong, I know, but there it is.
If your sign says “be where” you’ll probably just confuse the meth heads
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I have the Nest brand cameras and the are good. Keep in mind the new style of cameras that have apps to send you alerts are heavy on your internet data usage. Also you need to get a yearly subscription if the app is where you go to “replay” any video.

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Old 09-20-2019, 08:32 AM
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I have 8 dlink indoor and 1 Motorola hubble outdoor cameras. They are all good, most you can pan and tilt from your app. Some will even auto track movement.
None of these are cloud based, they use very little data. Few mb is all. They will email you instant motion notification and video/pictures if you have it set that way. Plus the app notifies you.
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I wasn't thinking far enough ahead for an outcome, I was ranting. By definition, a rant doesn't imply much forethought.....
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:26 PM
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I asked a cop about cameras and said a lot of them look like good video however when someone is walking around in different lighting conditions it may not be good enough quality to make an arrest.

What people need is a 4K and then you can count hairs.

Still I wonder what we need is a website that one can show video and picks of thieves and then with facial recognition software everyone can link up and tell when and where these punks are prowling.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:19 PM
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I don't use mine for keeping pics and video.
I want a visual warning of what I am dealing with. If I am not home and see someone in my house or garage I call the RCMP and people on the whatsapp for our rural crime watch. I know if a friend is near by they will go check it out, and have an idea of what is going on because I am watching them.
If I am home and see it it he she them I have an idea of what and how many I am dealing with, call the RCMP and get on whatsapp, grab the keys for the 'Idontgiveaheck truck' and head for the door.
It is nice seeing if they are carrying a knife, axe, hammer, teddy bear or whatever, I would arm myself accordingly against 'the people that came here to do me harm, and had me scared for my life'.
Don't believe the hype about massive data bills, if you aren't watching them 24/7 and just have them switch on when there is movement it is a tiny amount of data.
Also, when there is movement it sends video from 5 seconds before the movement to 5 seconds after it stops.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:21 PM
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forgot- I ran a power cord out to my boat, and a UPS battery backup. I had camera coverage under the tarp/cover 24/7. If someone pulled the plug the UPS would still keep power going to the camera, the draw is minimal.
You could do that in your car super easy, just run a cord to it.
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:38 AM
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We use Swann. Was from Costco. They have been reliable but customer service is so bad I would t buy them again. Also, the length of the run became an issue so keep that in mind. We had to work around it but got about 400feet of wire out to one camera and it works. Good luck.


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