"State of Emergency" What does this allow government to do?

[babbs]

What Rights do citizens lose when there is a state of emergency?

[Clgy_Dave2.0]

Originally Posted by babbs

What Rights do citizens lose when there is a state of emergency?

Do you lay in bed at night thinking of questions like this? Does this really keep you awake at nights?

[dmac]

Originally Posted by Calgary Dave

Do you lay in bed at night thinking of questions like this? Does this really keep you awake at nights?

he he he he. good one.

[Hogie135]

Think Martial Law. It's like the same thing except we dont want to panic you. We use words like "emergency" so that you'll cooperate like we want you to. As soon as you don't cooperate then BLAMO!!!!! We can arrest and probe you like aliens would if they were to abduct you.

[canadiantdi]

I was wondering earlier what would happen if someone didn't obey the mandatory evacuation orders. Can they be arrested?

[Sundancefisher]

This allows the government the right to arrest anyone asking this question and take their vehicle away for 7 days.

[mooseknuckle]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

This allows the government the right to arrest anyone asking this question and take their vehicle away for 7 days.

Sun. This is funny.

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by Calgary Dave

Do you lay in bed at night thinking of questions like this? Does this really keep you awake at nights?

Yes.

[MtnGiant]

Originally Posted by Hogie135

Think Martial Law. It's like the same thing except we dont want to panic you. We use words like "emergency" so that you'll cooperate like we want you to. As soon as you don't cooperate then BLAMO!!!!! We can arrest and probe you like aliens would if they were to abduct you.

The matter of fact is......the law is trying to protect the citizens

THE END!!!!!!!

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by MtnGiant

The matter of fact is......the law is trying to protect the citizens

THE END!!!!!!!

Did you ever hear of the FLQ crisis, much less live through it, or am I just wasting my time because you have no idea what I am talking about.

OMG

I am out of here.

[.257Weatherby]

Originally Posted by canadiantdi

I was wondering earlier what would happen if someone didn't obey the mandatory evacuation orders. Can they be arrested?

It means if you stay behind and you decide to change your mind after they have left they Will Not Come Back to Get You and Your Cat Fluffy.
They will not force you to leave unless there are Grounds under The Mental Health Act (elderly and infirm).
You likely will be arrested if you are successful after leaving the evacuated area and dealt with in due process...likely many days after the emergency has subsided.
Tight Groups and Dry Boots,
Rob

[bagwan]

It basically allows the Municipality, big or small, to commandeer equipment, resources, etc to save everyone and protect assets without worrying about Joe Blow suing their rumps off. Also trys to keep gawkers, onlookers and idiots off the street while the important and necessary people do their work.

[Hogie135]

Originally Posted by MtnGiant

The matter of fact is......the law is trying to protect the citizens

THE END!!!!!!!

Ummmm I was just joking. I don't think there's any probing involved.

[sdvc]

Not to mention looters! Cops can't do it all sometimes citizens have to help Like what happened here in Mcmurray. It was citizens that layed over a 1000 sandbags after they were told to leave. It was the Citizens who rallied and got the job done because the "authorities" could not. End of story.

[greylynx]

Originally Posted by sdvc

Not to mention looters! Cops can't do it all sometimes citizens have to help Like what happened here in Mcmurray. It was citizens that layed over a 1000 sandbags after they were told to leave. It was the Citizens who rallied and got the job done because the "authorities" could not. End of story.

Hey, I remember that.

[TBD]

Originally Posted by sdvc

Not to mention looters! Cops can't do it all sometimes citizens have to help Like what happened here in Mcmurray. It was citizens that layed over a 1000 sandbags after they were told to leave. It was the Citizens who rallied and got the job done because the "authorities" could not. End of story.

What if things get worse and their efforts get over taken, r they going to pop back on the tube and ask everyone back to help ?

TBD

PS ... another example of BIG gov't monopolizing our safety and well being, why not mobilize volunteers and utilize FREE resources ....

... would'nt that SAVE money ?

... DID you hear Hansen call Neshi "your worship" ?

... and what's with all the funny facial expressions of Redford - can she not keep a straight face ?

[canadiantdi]

Originally Posted by babbs

What Rights do citizens lose when there is a state of emergency?

I really don't have the time or energy to read all of this, but you may find it interesting..


Alberta Emergency Plan
http://www.aema.alberta.ca/documents/ema/aep2000.pdf

[babbs]

I just wanted to better understand the purpose of declaring the "state of emergency". I was just reading in Wiki that in Canada The Emergencies Act replaced the War Measures Act in 1988. so there are some serious meanings behind the declaration. Maybe I asked the question the wrong way to get the responses I did. Maybe it should read, what ability does the government gain by declaring a state of emergency.

Spending without budget approval?
Access to homes without out a court order? (for safety reasons of course)

[giwolf]

Originally Posted by babbs

What Rights do citizens lose when there is a state of emergency?

Here's some.....

ALBERTA DISASTER SERVICES ACT
ALBERTA GOVERNMENT EMERGENCY PLANNING
REGULATION
ALBERTA DISASTER RECOVERY REGULATION

16(1) On the making of the declaration and for the duration of the state of
emergency the Minister may do all acts and take all necessary proceedings
including the following:
cause the evacuation of persons and the removal of livestock and
personal property from any area of Alberta that is or may be affected
by a disaster and make arrangements for the adequate care and
protection of those persons or livestock and of the personal property;

(h) authorize the entry into any building or on any land, without warrant,
by any person in the course of implementing an emergency plan or
program;

(k) authorize the conscription of persons needed to meet an emergency.

Seems a bit heavy handed, the Act supersedes all other Acts except Alberta Bill of Rights or the Human Rights, Citizenship and Multiculturalism Act

[MtnGiant]

Originally Posted by Hogie135

Ummmm I was just joking. I don't think there's any probing involved.

I hope not....this aint "South Park" hehehehahahahoho

[Dog hunter]

During the slave lake fires it meant people who stayed behind to protect there homes and belongings were drug out in handcuffs by the gastappo, they drove around at night listening for generators that were running deep freezers full of food,true story!saw it with my own eyes

[harv3589]

the anti-police guys here are hilarious....even in times like this you still whine and b!tch...

[CaberTosser]

This just made me realize something; each flooded house will have to be checked by contractors and utility crews prior to restoration of power. There will probably be crews running around disconnecting the meters to each building in a distribution grid prior to turning the power back on to the poles. As crews enter that many homes, I'm betting that a grow-op or two will be located.

[Sundancefisher]

ALBERTA DISASTER SERVICES AVERSION ACT
ALBERTA GOVERNMENT EVASIVE EMERGENCY PLANNING
REGULATION
ALBERTA DISASTER NON-RECOVERY REGULATION

16(1) On the making of the declaration and for the duration of the state of
emergency the Minister may evade any responsibility to help people including the following:

(i) completely disregard any attempts at helping save people's lives and preserve property and instead immediately send all emergency personnel to a conference on restaurant patio furniture safety;

(ii) authorize all people to stay in their own property without regard for their own safety and that of others around them including emergency personnel learning about non breakable patio dishes;

(iii) authorize all looting and gawking and boating and the placement of people and vehicles that impede the ability of people to escape death and injury in an emergency.

(iv) work on the administrative regulations to help people during an emergency so that some day it can be tested in real life.

(v) stand as close to any dangerous situations as possible including fire, floods etc.

*********************************************

One regulation we really need is:

1) For all persons receiving in person, a notice to evacuate that fails to do so will be responsible for all costs associated with their eventual evacuation and also warrant that if it is too dangerous for emergency responders to rescue them...then tough luck for you until it becomes safe. All these idiots leaving after the flood hits should all have their sorry faces on a plaque for "emergency idiot".

Becoming part of the problem does not help in an emergency when it could be prevented.

[igorot]

Not sure in Alberta, where I come from looters get shot no question asked.

[welding dude]

Originally Posted by igorot

Not sure in Alberta, where I come from looters get shot no question asked.

People get shot with no questions asked where you come from?

Alberta must seem like a very nice place to you then.

[Canadiandiesel]

Originally Posted by welding dude

People get shot with no questions asked where you come from?

Alberta must seem like a very nice place to you then.

Reading comprehension owns you, looters was prior to the shoot word in his post

[welding dude]

Originally Posted by Canadiandiesel

Reading comprehension owns you, looters was prior to the shoot word in his post

Really? How do you know they were looters if no questions are asked?

I believe that looters are people. If they get shot without questions; then my post holds true.

What was that you were saying about reading comprehension?

[justsomeguy]

I think the no questions asked part was after the fact by the authorities, not prior.

[welding dude]

Either before or after doesn't really matter. We are not in the Sudan so it is comforting that questions are asked prior to, and after people get shot.