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Well I was going to 999 but this whiff of know-it-all in the air has me hankerin' fer a big feed of mutton. I think I make the time and go punch that tag. Thanks for the inspiration.
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06-06-2019, 02:56 PM
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Yeah a anti ewe hunting speech
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I think you should step it up a notch, and save all ungulates by not hunting anymore. That would be great..... for me.
Thanks
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06-07-2019, 12:39 AM
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Well I was going to 999 but this whiff of know-it-all in the air has me hankerin' fer a big feed of mutton. I think I make the time and go punch that tag. Thanks for the inspiration.
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I have been thinking a lot about my priorities before entering my draws this year. This thread has actually stirred up something. Lots of priority for a ewe, so what the hell! Let’s get er done! Been a few years since I shot one, love sheep meat!
Thanks to 25-06rem, I’m going to kill one as well. Probably going to shoot her in the face. None of that good sheep meat will be wasted. Mmmmm, ewe ribs over a nice fire!
Thanks “Garry”, I will be killing a ewe this fall thanks to you!
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06-07-2019, 12:51 AM
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Haha if I can even save one ewe I’d be fine with half of Facebook and AO being frustrated with me.
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And just in case I wasn’t clear. I will be killing a ewe because of this thread. Thanks for getting me motivated! My last ewe was the best meat you can get on the planet!
This one will taste even better because of this thread you started! Thanks again!
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06-07-2019, 01:39 AM
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It’s got nothing to do with conservation, it has to do with making things easier. Some hunters enjoy the challenge of hunting, that’s what we find appealing about it. Others don’t and dream up ways to make it easier for themselves. Isn’t it more gratifying to have a successful hunt when the prey is harder to get? I guess that it’d be better for outfitters if there was a legal ram on every hillside though.......thrilling. That wouldn’t last long I wouldn’t think.
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06-07-2019, 05:34 AM
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By some of the comments on this thread, maybe some think there is a problem with the sheep population. Dale you can't compare 1983 ewe tag numbers to present day numbers as there were way more sheep back then, so don't compare apples to oranges. Quit being a wannabe bio! Bio's are just theorists, it's their beliefs that they go on. I'm not saying Gary is right or wrong and he has every right in what he believes in and who are we to judge him on that. If there were a predation problem or if more prescribed burns are needed then why is there not something being done to help the situation?
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06-07-2019, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SageValleyOutdoors
I’m not a biologist, nor do i pretend to be the best sheep hunter on the mountain... all i can compare it to is moose - and if you want a bunch of bull moose, you’re best to let the cows live. Every cow you kill takes all her unborn bulls down with her. Just as every ewe you shoot kills all of her unborn rams. I don’t personally see a reason to shoot a ewe, so i won’t. Whatever our biologists are doing, it isn’t working - and just because something is allowed, doesn’t mean it’s right.
That’s just my $0.02
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Agree with this and it applies to all hunting and fishing we do.....legal doesn't mean we need to be greedy and stupid.....we can govern ourselves out there....
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06-07-2019, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
Agree with this and it applies to all hunting and fishing we do.....legal doesn't mean we need to be greedy and stupid.....we can govern ourselves out there....
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06-07-2019, 06:52 AM
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Who will we save the ewes for if we burn our tags? For the folks that don't need a tag?
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06-07-2019, 08:29 AM
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Who will we save the ewes for if we burn our tags? For the folks that don't need a tag?
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But if you shoot them, then they are dead for sure...
Kinda like shooting young bucks with potential
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06-07-2019, 08:56 AM
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But if you shoot them, then they are dead for sure...
Kinda like shooting young bucks with potential
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The potential in animals for some hunters is table-fare, it has nothing to do with hanging horns or antlers on a wall. If. He carrying capacity dictates who cares what someone else thinks .......
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06-07-2019, 10:26 AM
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The potential in animals for some hunters is table-fare, it has nothing to do with hanging horns or antlers on a wall. If. He carrying capacity dictates who cares what someone else thinks .......
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That’s not what I’m implying here
I’m just saying that if your shooting an animal just one the basis that “ well the next guy will shoot them anyways”, Doesn’t make much sense. People are free to do what they want. If you want to shoot it, then shoot it. You don’t need to make an excuse for it.
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06-07-2019, 11:11 AM
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By some of the comments on this thread, maybe some think there is a problem with the sheep population. Dale
you can't compare 1983 ewe tag numbers to present day numbers as there were way more sheep back then
, so don't compare apples to oranges. Quit being a wannabe bio! Bio's are just theorists, it's their beliefs that they go on. I'm not saying Gary is right or wrong and he has every right in what he believes in and who are we to judge him on that. If there were a predation problem or if more prescribed burns are needed then why is there not something being done to help the situation?
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And this is what ignorance looks like ^....
There are more sheep on provincial lands today than there were in the 80's.
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06-07-2019, 11:13 AM
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That’s not what I’m implying here
I’m just saying that if your shooting an animal just one the basis that “ well the next guy will shoot them anyways”, Doesn’t make much sense. People are free to do what they want. If you want to shoot it, then shoot it. You don’t need to make an excuse for it.
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I never have and never will make excuses for shooting anything.
I replied to your comment about about shooting young bucks with potential is all.
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06-07-2019, 12:39 PM
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I never have and never will make excuses for shooting anything.
I replied to your comment about about shooting young bucks with potential is all.
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06-07-2019, 12:56 PM
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Well I can see I’m kicking a dead horse here. The fact that their is so much faith in our biologists shocks me. We have a outdated sheep management plan. We’ve seen majority of our mountain elk and mule deer herds already depleted severally and I’m sure our sheep may be next. And yes we did have better sheep hunting when we we had a ton of ewe tags but maybe that’s the reason why it didn’t last forever. I find it humorous that the only arguments I’ve had against me are to review or outdated dated management plan, that I’m a money hungry guide, and then people just stating their gonna kill a ewe because I had my own opinion.
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06-07-2019, 01:29 PM
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I'd like to see more pictures. dave99's were awesome, and I know of at least 2 more fairly recent successful hunts by AO members.
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06-07-2019, 01:47 PM
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I want to see bdubs heavily broomed 4/5s ram!
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06-07-2019, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RZR
By some of the comments on this thread, maybe some think there is a problem with the sheep population. Dale you can't compare 1983 ewe tag numbers to present day numbers as there were way more sheep back then, so don't compare apples to oranges. Quit being a wannabe bio! Bio's are just theorists, it's their beliefs that they go on. I'm not saying Gary is right or wrong and he has every right in what he believes in and who are we to judge him on that. If there were a predation problem or if more prescribed burns are needed then why is there not something being done to help the situation?
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Wow! This is stunning! Yup ignorance is the proper discription.
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06-07-2019, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by crazy_davey
I have been thinking a lot about my priorities before entering my draws this year. This thread has actually stirred up something. Lots of priority for a ewe, so what the hell! Let’s get er done! Been a few years since I shot one, love sheep meat!
Thanks to 25-06rem, I’m going to kill one as well. Probably going to shoot her in the face. None of that good sheep meat will be wasted. Mmmmm, ewe ribs over a nice fire!
Thanks “Garry”, I will be killing a ewe this fall thanks to you!
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Be sure to clean up the grip and grin, I hate to see the tongue hanging out in those pics.
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06-07-2019, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 25-06rem.model700
Well I can see I’m kicking a dead horse here. The fact that their is so much faith in our biologists shocks me. We have a outdated sheep management plan. We’ve seen majority of our mountain elk and mule deer herds already depleted severally and I’m sure our sheep may be next. And yes we did have better sheep hunting when we we had a ton of ewe tags but maybe that’s the reason why it didn’t last forever. I find it humorous that the only arguments I’ve had against me are to review or outdated dated management plan, that I’m a money hungry guide, and then people just stating their gonna kill a ewe because I had my own opinion.
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Fair enough criticism on the responses but there is more than a little proof that harvesting females in an appropriate manner is good management. Right now I dont think a female caribou hunt is appropriate and I'm sure there are sheep populations in Alberta that can't take a hunt, but it is a good practice under appropriate circumstances.
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06-07-2019, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 25-06rem.model700
Well I can see I’m kicking a dead horse here. The fact that their is so much faith in our biologists shocks me. We have a outdated sheep management plan. We’ve seen majority of our mountain elk and mule deer herds already depleted severally and I’m sure our sheep may be next. And yes we did have better sheep hunting when we we had a ton of ewe tags but maybe that’s the reason why it didn’t last forever. I find it humorous that the only arguments I’ve had against me are to review or outdated dated management plan, that I’m a money hungry guide, and then people just stating their gonna kill a ewe because I had my own opinion.
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I think everyone should bring some zylatol with them on mountain hunts
Heck any hunt
Sprinkle a couple lbs on whatever you leave behind
Get rid of a few wolves
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06-07-2019, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_mark
I think everyone should bring some zylatol with them on mountain hunts
Heck any hunt
Sprinkle a couple lbs on whatever you leave behind
Get rid of a few wolves
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To bad fish and wildlife wouldn’t give us the good stuff!
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06-07-2019, 02:37 PM
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Well here’s my first ewe from last year, easily my favourite table fare and not because of how much work it was.
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06-07-2019, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by walking buffalo
And this is what ignorance looks like ^....
There are more sheep on provincial lands today than there were in the 80's.
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Really, tell us what the number of ewes were in the 80's as apposed to now. I know when I hunted in the 70's and 80's I seen a lot more sheep then I do now.
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Really, tell us what the number of ewes were in the 80's as apposed to now. I know when I hunted in the 70's and 80's I seen a lot more sheep then I do now.
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maybe you were just in better shape and hunted harder in the 70's and 80's
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maybe you were just in better shape and hunted harder in the 70's and 80's
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Still going to the same areas!
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Wow! This is stunning! Yup ignorance is the proper discription.
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The same clowns that put all their faith in the bio's info on sheep, but in the next breath bitch and complain about how bad they manage antelope.
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Well here’s my first ewe from last year, easily my favourite table fare and not because of how much work it was.
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Congrats, dekker59! Looks like you had a little snow to contend with. Thanks for sharing.
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maybe you were just in better shape and hunted harder in the 70's and 80's
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LOL. No doubt. Pretty sure the mountains were less steep and tall for ol RZR 50ish years ago...
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06-07-2019, 02:51 PM
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The same clowns that put all their faith in the bio's info on sheep, but in the next breath bitch and complain about how bad they manage antelope.
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And mountain elk.... and mule deer.... and grizzly bear numbers......and.....
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