Rimfire Gunsmith.

[GummyMonster]

Good morning,
I’m looking for a gunsmith who specializes, or at least does extensive work on rimfires. Especially the Ruger 10/22 platform. I’m looking to have the barrel/ receiver threaded ( I have a bull barrel, so this can be done ), and a recessed target crown cut. I also need the chamber tightened up for accuracy.
I’m in western Canada, if there is someone good out here . I can ship it wherever needed, but someone closer would be nice.
Thanks in advance,
Ken

[wally338]

Dlask

[GummyMonster]

I actually tried Dlask. They told me what I’m after isn’t possible (it absolutely is) , and whoever answered me was kinda rude about it.
Apparently they don’t do gunsmith work anymore .
Thanks though ,
Ken

[357Maximum]

I would purchase the threaded receiver and barrel that Dlask has for $500.00 , sell your receiver and barrel.

357

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by 357Maximum

I would purchase the threaded receiver and barrel that Dlask has for $500.00 , sell your receiver and barrel.

357

That would be the cheaper way to go.

[GummyMonster]

That’s a good suggestion, But CPC In Conneticut will do it all for
less than $150. Would it really be that much more costly in Canada?
Seems like fairly basic work, IMO.
Thanks for the idea though, may be another way to go.
Ken

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by GummyMonster

That’s a good suggestion, But CPC In Conneticut will do it all for
less than $150. Would it really be that much more costly in Canada?
Seems like fairly basic work, IMO.
Thanks for the idea though, may be another way to go.
Ken

They are listing $175 US plus shipping for about $200US, or over $260 Canadian.

From their site

CPC's CUSTOM FINISHED BULL BARRELS FOR RUGER OR AFTERMARKET 10/22's LR Simply figure out what you want. Pick a barrel blank from any manufacturer, a partial list is on this website. Order a .940 (15/16") diameter turned barrel blank, straight contour, no O.D. polish, full length. 1 twist in 16, 16.5, or 17 inches, 5 through 9 grooves. CPC does diameter & visual bore scope inspection, tight end becomes muzzle end, barrel is cut from center of blank. Blank is lathe turned concentric to bore, hand finish polish outside, hand finish lap bore. Chambered, extractor cut, 11 degrees recessed target crown, totally finished. Your Ruger 10/22 aluminum receiver and barrel are threaded - eliminating the Ruger V-block. Finished barrel is tightened in the receiver. Barrel no longer has to be .920 dia, it can be ordered smaller and lighter from .812 dia up to .920 dia, 16.25 to 21 inches long, your choice.

Send a barrel blank, or drop ship here, or describe and send money for blank plus $175 for CPCs labor, add $19 s&h.

[DLab]

The Dlask option probably would be the easiest,then there would be stock inletting involved with the barrel nut system Dlask uses,but that shouldn't be a major issue.
There are few mods for accuracy improvements that can be done other than the threaded receiver/barrel option,pillar pedestal,bedding rear of receiver ,bedding first 2 inches of barrel ahead of receiver,upgrade trigger group,bolt,etc.

Just checked out CPC's website,as stated on their Home page-Canadians can not send receivers ,please call.

[GummyMonster]

DLab, you posted just as I was typing.LOL.
That’s $175US for a total job on a barrel blank. Further up the page threading the barrel /receiver is a $45 add on, and re-chambering and custom recessed crown is just over $100 .
That is US, I know, but that’s still a long ways from $500CAD.
Unfortunately, you can’t ship a receiver by international post.
Hoping someone in Canada can do it.
It’s also important to me to keep the barrel I’ve got, that’s a big part of why I bought it
Thanks anyways,
Ken

[DLab]

The great thing about the 10/22 platform is all the after market support available,I think the Rem.700 is the only other one that can match it.
I've had one for years ,other than barrel/receiver threading and pinning the firing pin ,I've done pretty much every mod. you can do to it.
Isn't difficult to drop some coin into a project 10/22 once you start swapping out factory for custom parts.
Chambering,threading,profiling and crowning a rim fire blank is going to run about the same as a center fire rifle blank ,I'm thinking,which probably will run a $300.00 bill and up not including receiver work.
That's why the Dlask option is mentioned.
They can be fun projects though,so good luck!

[fps plus]

Threading and chambering the barrel is absolutely no problem . The tricky part is getting the receiver set up true with the tap or single point

[YoteStopper]

The factory Ruger receivers are pretty flimsy compared to a Dlask or VQ, IMO it's not worth doing major work on them. I was planning on tricking out my 10/22 with an aftermarket barrel etc but ended up buying a barreled action from Dlask and it is far better quality.

[DLab]

Originally Posted by fps plus

Threading and chambering the barrel is absolutely no problem . The tricky part is getting the receiver set up true with the tap or single point

I may not remember correctly it's been a few years since I looked into doing it but seems to me using a Mill and a Angle Plate?,thread with a Tap was recommended ,rather than a lathe.

Originally Posted by YoteStopper

The factory Ruger receivers are pretty flimsy compared to a Dlask or VQ, IMO it's not worth doing major work on them. I was planning on tricking out my 10/22 with an aftermarket barrel etc but ended up buying a barreled action from Dlask and it is far better quality.

Yup.^^^this.
It's not difficult to drop a $1000.00 into parts tricking up a 10/22 and then doing a lot of the work yourself,having a Smith do it takes it over the top.
Although it was a fun learning project,I'd have a look for a used VQ or KIDD if a person was serious.Never mind having problems with the subsonic Target quality ammo that you need to run to really make them shine,not wanting to cycle reliably.
My 10/22 is my go to Sod Rat plinker ,I love it for that,but after all the upgrades and work my out of the box $250.00 Savage Mark II .22 is right there with it maybe better with certain ammo. LOL

[GummyMonster]

Well, it looks like threading the receiver and barrel is out. I think I’m going to go the chemical bonding route.
Can anyone point me towards a gunsmith who does good work on rimfires?
I still want to do a recessed crown , custom chambering, and cutting an extractor groove?
Possibly have 2 barrels to do, as I’m building an SR 22 up as well.
Thanks,
Ken

[DLab]

Chemical bonding? Not familiar with that ,like Epoxy bedding the barrel to the receiver?I'm sorry,don't know any Smiths that specialise in 10//22's.

[Guy1000]

I know it is a little late but a good place to send it to would probably be corlanes. They have good gunsmiths there but it may be on the high end price wise.

[GummyMonster]

Guy1000 -
Corlanes was the first place I contacted. The gunsmith said that they don’t have any rimfire specific tools at this time, as the demand for work on rimfires is too low to justify the cost. I was surprised actually, I guess upgrading rimfires just hasn’t caught on in Canada. Unlike the USA, which has a wealth of rimfire specialists and aftermarket equipment.
Thanks for trying to help anyways,
Ken

[GummyMonster]

Sorry DLab , I missed your post somehow.
Yes, some people use 2 part epoxy or Loctite between the receiver and barrel. I’ve been talking with folks on Rimfire Central forum, and most guys there say that using a chemical bond is fairly extreme for a regular use gun. The only time they suggest it is if your barrel / receiver are a loose fit and inaccurate. I’m going to go with a Gunsmither brand barrel block instead, as it puts the proper backwards tension on the barrel without putting downward pressure on the barrel.
Ken

[catnthehat]

I have seen some World class 50 BR rifles that came out of Ron Smith’s shop but they were single shots .
I do know that his work on rimfires is just as excellent as his work on Center fires however .
Cat

[GummyMonster]

Thanks for the direction.
Ken

[DLab]

Are you using a wood or synthetic stock for this project?

[GummyMonster]

It’s a laminate Ruger stock.
Ken

[DLab]

There are other modifications you can do to a wood stock to help mitigate any perceived barrel droop,most are in the sticky's on CGN.
The one design deficiency I see with the 10/22 is the fact it only has one take down screw and it's location.Making and installing a pedestal pillar for that action screw and bedding the rear of the receiver and the first 1.5-2 inches of barrel channel in front of the receiver will make three points of solid contacts on the same horizontal plane.Assembly after cleaning becomes consistent and repeatable,no torque variations.
Locating the point on the rear of the receiver that lines with the bore axis and drilling a .250 inch hole in that location allows for bore cleaning with a coated one piece cleaning rod by just removing the bolt/charging handle, clean through the chamber end as required.This also eliminates the need to remove barrel constantly which also helps minimise barrel to receiver wear and a time saver.
When I installed my Dlask barrel I had to put in the freezer and warm the receiver on low temp in my oven,using a rubber mallet for the install and got a nice snug fit,it hasn't been removed since.
Most of the mods listed on CGN are DIY easy with a few tools.

[GummyMonster]

DLab - Thanks again for all the direction.
I’ve read about most of these, but I’m happy to get any helpful advice.
I’ll post an update on my project, probably won’t be until the snow goes .
Ken