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07-20-2017, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by recce43
for every job in civil world there is pretty much a military equivalent.
pension after 20 yrs .
best friends you can have they have your back
it's not a career it's a life style
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07-20-2017, 09:56 PM
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No matter what your child decide on, it's never too late to change your mind.
I know several people that changed careers midlife and have succeeded.
That may not mean the hated their old job, just means it's sometimes better to move on and do something different.
I started out in the automotive field. Mechanic, auto body and welding.
Then I started a courier company that I later sold.
I'm currently a process server.
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07-20-2017, 10:08 PM
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I work for the Canadian Coast Guard as a Marine Communications and Traffic Services officer.
We have 2 stations. One in Prince Rupert, BC and one in Victoria, BC.
Currently we are very understaffed and are on a major hiring phase. If you are selected you go to the Canadian Coast Guard College in Syndey Nova Scotia for 6 months (Paid)
After the college you either go to Prince Rupert or Victoria and finish your training. This job is an inside job. We provide traffic information to all vessels entering Canadian Waters as well as working a safety position. If you call Mayday on the radio we are the ones who answer.
The job is very rewarding, Decent pay and there is a lot of opportunity for overtimes.
As all government jobs what we may lack in wage we get in other ways. Pension, time off, sick time etc.
It is shift work. we work 2 days 2 nights and 5 days off.
If anyone is interested let me know and I could guide you in the right direction.
This career could be a fantastic opportunity for younger people but it not age limited whatsoever
Prince Rupert = FISH
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07-20-2017, 10:32 PM
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I've done well in the environmental field for the last 9 years with a two year diploma from Olds College. I have found it to be the right balance of field/office time and I've only seen my earnings increase each year. Having a background in various facets of oil and gas (drilling, and operating) has been a HUGE compliment to what I do now. The working conditions can be as bad as your worst days hunting or ice fishing, and a lot of people get weeded out quick after that realization. That said, there is an abundance of variety as is spans every renewable and non-renewable resource industry, agriculture, transportation and municipalities, and research. I firmly believe the environmental industry is in its infancy and great strides will be made as regulation changes and the demand for more responsible development increases. Yes, it is very much commodity driven and layoffs do happen, but good hands always seem to have work. Project management positions are often in demand, I was put into one at about 5 years experience. I've attained a PMP designation since then which I see as something to fall back on should the time ever come.
All in all, an interest in the outdoors and a strong work ethic can serve a young adult well in environmental consulting.
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07-20-2017, 10:57 PM
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careers
The trades.....You can have a ticket by the age of 20 with no post secondary debt and be earning a decent income. I've been in sprinklers for almost 30 years and it has been very good for me and has provided nicely for my family.
If I were to do it over again, I would most likely pursue an electrical career. For sprinkler and many other trades you need to be near a busy centre that has continuous construction. As an electrician or plumber there are many opportunities for side jobs and small jobs into retirement age.
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07-20-2017, 11:03 PM
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encourage all our kids to become politician . can you imagine 25 to 30 years from now ,
Canada is swarmed by an entire generation of politicians raised by AO members ?
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07-21-2017, 08:26 AM
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Safety thingamajigger at a nukyuler power plant.
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07-21-2017, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SamSteele
Environmental jobs have one of the worst education debt:salary ratios around. Need a $40k degree to work in it but you get paid under $20 per hour to start. Takes a lot of years to pay the debt off at that rate.
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You need to quit that company. Our starting wage out of school is nearly double that and a fully qualified person with a bit of experience is making six figures. Of course "environmental jobs" can mean a lot of different things. I'm talking a four year degree.
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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07-21-2017, 09:48 AM
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Just came into this conversation but remember one thing. These computer nerds all need a house, a car, and someone to look after them when they are sick.
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07-21-2017, 09:49 AM
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Just came into this conversation but remember one thing. These computer nerds all need a house, a car, and someone to look after them when they are sick.
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LOL True. And a haircut.
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In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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07-21-2017, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Erik
Not that I want to soak your budding optimism (that alone can pave a lot of roads for you and I'm being sincere) but wait til you get to the job market and learn the real lessons. Best of luck to you.
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No question, economy is still shot and school doesn't exactly simulate a real job, if I'm able to get one, but I'm not particularly worried. Still three more semesters to go, providing a window for the economy to move to recover and more job opportunities to come about. Regardless, I'd like to pick up a trade after exiting school. Really diversify my skill set.
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07-21-2017, 10:01 AM
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Anything, they won't be living in my basement till there 30 like the crop of Millennials we have these days!
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07-21-2017, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ESOXangler
I'm going to encourage engineering with my kids. But not sit at a desk and design things engineering. More of the field type, getting your hands dirty, digging in and troubleshooting type. These engineers actually exist and after about 10 years of that, grab an MBA and move into a management role. Those are the engineers that truly go far.
But at the end of the day it'll be whatever they want.
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Definitely the way to go for engineers who want to be successful. Lots of these kind of opportunities in the mining industry.
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07-22-2017, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 3blade
Talk to a few new nurses and see what they say. The job competition is severe, sometime hundreds of applicants for a single position. That being said it does pay well with good benefits and many different opportunities. Not so sure about job security given the current government debt loads. Teaching falls into the same category.
High end medical specialists ex: chiropractors, speech language pathologists, etc are in demand and while the education is expensive, it certainly pays off.
Law and accounting are good bets as well. Things that will always be needed.
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Sorry but I've been in the medical field for close to 3 decades and there has never been a time when nurses could not get work. Their idea of no jobs is not being able to get the exact job that they want, when they want it. I doubt you would ever find a job with better security.
The typical hospital schedule for an RN is usually 2 days, 2 nights and then 4 off with around 140 hours of vacation to start. Very liberal sick time also.
I believe they currently stat at over $35 right out of school and then work up to close to $50 with only seniority ( any advanced training or leadership roles put them well above that).
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07-22-2017, 06:20 PM
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I would say engineering and only because the old man has the sense to stear the young lad with common sense. I find today's qualified engineers I've had the pleasure of working with lack the whole thought process in which that imaginary line on their computer actually means something important.
I'm not saying all but just from my experiences the bottom of the barrel is fairly deep!
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07-22-2017, 08:16 PM
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Having worked in both education and health care for the past 24 years, the tsunami I see on the horizon is in all things supporting the aging (but mostly wealthy) baby boomer population. Provided their offspring don't milk them dry, they will be looking to retire/age very comfortably, much more than what the publicly funded retirement/seniors homes provide. Nursing, nursing attendants, recreational therapists, or anything else that enhances or maintains quality of life.
If you don't believe me, check out this link to see what some investors are doing about catering to this population. I did a tour of this facility a few months ago and was blown away by both the quality of care and amenities, as well as the cost....
http://www.originspringcreek.ca/
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07-22-2017, 09:53 PM
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Im thinking tattoo removal and earlobe reconstruction are going to explode right away.
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07-22-2017, 11:35 PM
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Electrical or construction then start a handyman business and fix or build almost everything the up and coming generations have no clue how to do. By the looks of it you would have non-stop business because nobody seams capable or willing to fix or build anything themselves.
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07-23-2017, 09:09 AM
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Trades, Coast Guard, Military anything but education or health care.
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07-23-2017, 09:53 AM
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The biggest problem with young people choosing a career is they listen to their young friends 'The blind leading the blind" A young person should never be able to choose a career without the final approval of their parents, especially if parents paying the freight.
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07-23-2017, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sns2
This likely comes as no surprise, but times are changing so darn fast, that educators openly admit that we do not know what jobs we are preparing our kids in kindergarten for.
With that in mind, I think it would be interesting to hear what fields you folks are encouraging your kids, or young people in your circle, to consider as viable, well paying, and stable careers.
I have a daughter entering grade 12 who I am urging to consider a career in the medical field, likely nursing, as with the aging population, job prospects will likely continue to be good, it pays fairly well, and offers the opportunity for changing directions within the field.
What are you guys encouraging your young people to consider?
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Environmental law
Environmental engineering
Geriatric industries
Machine learning
Social licensing design and implementation
Most trades however specialize in high end Eco products
Lots of others
Stay away from appliance repairs
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07-23-2017, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bergerboy
Im thinking tattoo removal and earlobe reconstruction are going to explode right away.
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Haha. Yup.
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07-23-2017, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
Environmental law
Environmental engineering
Geriatric industries
Machine learning
Social licensing design and implementation
Most trades however specialize in high end Eco products
Lots of others
Stay away from appliance repairs
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Just curious, what's wrong with appliance repairs?
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07-23-2017, 08:50 PM
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Just curious, what's wrong with appliance repairs?
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Nobody fixes anything anymore they just buy new
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07-23-2017, 09:05 PM
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Thats a hard question, but I do know that I would steer them away from the Welding trade or military service (you get injured in battle and then forced to fight for scraps from the very people who sent you into harm's way) Both have been my undoing.
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07-24-2017, 09:17 AM
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Thats a hard question, but I do know that I would steer them away from the Welding trade or military service (you get injured in battle and then forced to fight for scraps from the very people who sent you into harm's way) Both have been my undoing.
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I agree, the armed forces is an honourable choice but it seems a thankless one and the welding trade has spiraled into the crapper.
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07-24-2017, 10:48 AM
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Just curious, what's wrong with appliance repairs?
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My last 6 repairs I did all myself. People more likely to buy new if the repairs are pricing and they don't want to fix themselves.
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07-24-2017, 12:01 PM
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Someone that is training to fix posture and arthritis in the hands. With everyone glued to their phones their hands are gonna be crippled. Their backs and necks will be hunched. Go to any mall, you'll see what I mean.
Non-Destructive Testing/Quality Control would be a good one. Mostly in-service inspection IMO unless we get a conservative government back and start new construction again in AB/Sask.
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07-24-2017, 12:45 PM
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IMO its more important to teach them budgeting and fiscal prudence than it is to direct them in career choice. Not that some direction isn't a good thing. Thing is every single job out there is subject to quick change in conditions. There are simply no guarantee's specially these days with no loyalty and tech changing things daily on top of the normal boom and bust cycles of most industries and gov't budgets. What is there one day may be gone the next. What is in demand may not pay well because the funds simply aren't there regardless of needs. What you do may not be a priority of the gov't of the day. The axe can come out at any time. Live accordingly.
Teach a kid to live below his means and pay off the debt whilst times are good or even mediocre. Farther down the line that'll allow them the luxury of doing what they like to do rather than what the HAVE to do to pay the bills. An oversized house and new +60k vehicle every two years will really limit their options no matter what.
Generally the most stable jobs out there are generally the one's nobody else wants to do. Maybe a porta potty rental or septic business
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07-24-2017, 07:53 PM
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Anything but trades. I wouldn't want my kids to be physically broken down by the time they are 50 or less. It's a hard life. There is much more out there.
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