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Pretty sure the whole family had it right around Christmas time. Some bad, some not so bad. And lasted into January.
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Old 05-08-2020, 12:06 PM
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I’ve been wondering if I had it just a week after New Years. I was sick bad for about 4 days. Had a fever and chills that were unreal. I was shaking so bad one night I thought I was going to bounce out of bed. But then I was ok after a few days. Makes me think it might of been the plague.
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Old 05-08-2020, 12:40 PM
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I have not but two relatives did, one is fine the other died.
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Old 05-08-2020, 01:18 PM
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I’ve been wondering if I had it just a week after New Years. I was sick bad for about 4 days. Had a fever and chills that were unreal. I was shaking so bad one night I thought I was going to bounce out of bed. But then I was ok after a few days. Makes me think it might of been the plague.
Pretty much what Incredigirl had - Hadn't affected the rest of us, though. She's in contact with a lot of people (with varying levels of hygiene) at work, so we get exposed to pretty much every bug that's in vogue.

That being said, we are diligent with keeping clean and sanitized in general, and especially during fly seasons.

Thankfully we've been able to work at home for the past month or so, and have been extremely limiting our circulation to keep from moving the pestilence around.
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Old 05-08-2020, 01:37 PM
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Pretty sure the whole family had it right around Christmas time. Some bad, some not so bad. And lasted into January.
Same. We had a three week “flu” that was awful. Who know what that was all about
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The future is already here - it's just not very evenly distributed...

I don't know anyone. But my wife's unit at the hospital lost 1/3 its staff (~30 nurses) do to one infected patient and no PPE. Of those, about 1/3 tested positive, another 1/3 had symptoms but did not test positive, and the other 1/3 was able to return to work after 4-5 days isolation.
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This article has been removed from YouTube. Excellent article.
about 24 minutes. Enjoy Dr. Judy Michowitzs. Freedom of Speech about Coronavirus.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/i...ideo-restored/
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This article has been removed from YouTube. Excellent article.
about 24 minutes. Enjoy Dr. Judy Michowitzs. Freedom of Speech about Coronavirus.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/i...ideo-restored/
It's been removed because she's a fraud & an anti-vaxxer - and all ofher claims havebeen debunked. Great production though, very professional & stirs up lots of emotion for the viewer.

Admittedly, as someone who wants for this to be over & to get back to work I have a hard time checking my biases sometimes when I see things like this. It's hard to look at articles & videos with an objective lense - we all do it, it's human nature. As someone who doesn't have a medical background, it's easy for me to be swayed and eat this stuff up (and that goes for anyone).

Forbes (and countless other sources) wrote a great piece specific to this video. At the bottom of the article, there are probably a dozen more links to specific claims she makes, and why they're junk.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahae...w#73a72f095fa3
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:15 PM
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It's been removed because she's a fraud & an anti-vaxxer - and all ofher claims havebeen debunked. Great production though, very professional & stirs up lots of emotion for the viewer.

Admittedly, as someone who wants for this to be over & to get back to work I have a hard time checking my biases sometimes when I see things like this. It's hard to look at articles & videos with an objective lense - we all do it, it's human nature. As someone who doesn't have a medical background, it's easy for me to be swayed and eat this stuff up (and that goes for anyone).

Forbes (and countless other sources) wrote a great piece specific to this video. At the bottom of the article, there are probably a dozen more links to specific claims she makes, and why they're junk.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahae...w#73a72f095fa3
Read the forbes article. The forbes article has nothing on this women. you Likely discussing a different Dr.. No she is not a Antivaccine supporter. She does support vaccines. I will support the Dr. words over Forbes reporter.
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:28 PM
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Maybe you meant this article muirsy.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...y-fauci-viral#

Or this one.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/zdoggmd/86351


She's looking to make a buck. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Conspiracy theories are dangerous.
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Read the forbes article. The forbes article has nothing on this women. you Likely discussing a different Dr.. No she is not a Antivaccine supporter. She does support vaccines. I will support the Dr. words over Forbes reporter.
You must have missed the links at the bottom that debunk every single claim she made (de-bunked by specialists)

So, which doctors will you side with now? Sounds like you have a massive confirmation bias.
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:35 PM
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Maybe you meant this article muirsy.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...y-fauci-viral#

Or this one.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/blogs/zdoggmd/86351


She's looking to make a buck. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Conspiracy theories are dangerous.
Yup, those were among the linked pages at the bottom of the article I posted.

The Forbes article is more of a "why it's important push back against this type of garbage"....gets into the psychology of why people get sucked in.
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:35 PM
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Not ONE case that I have heard from family, friends and even facebook ...
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:39 PM
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The Forbes article is more of a "why it's important push back against this type of garbage"....gets into the psychology of why people get sucked in.
A very important subject. It's astonishing how many people get sucked into conspiracy theories. It's a damn business with youtube cult followings etc. We truly have gone mad.
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A girl that my daughter worked with before the lock down tested positive about 5 weeks ago. I asked my daughter how her friend was feeling at the time, and apparently she had a runny nose and a bit of a sore throat for a few days (but she's only 22, but does have asthma). That's the only confirmed case that I have any direct knowledge of.
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A very important subject. It's astonishing how many people get sucked into conspiracy theories. It's a damn business with youtube cult followings etc. We truly have gone mad.


SO I watched the video, a couple of times. Ms. Mikovits makes a very compelling argument. Is she correct or just a conspiracy theorist? Who knows. She has done honorable work in the past. She does not appear to be crazy, and speaks quite eloquently and educated. Several doctors who spoke are in agreement of very common sense points.

Healthgrades reviews (the very few) for "ZDoggMD" are quite an interesting read as well.

Whatever this case, there is something much bigger going on here.
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SO I watched the video, a couple of times. Ms. Mikovits makes a very compelling argument. Is she correct or just a conspiracy theorist? Who knows. She has done honorable work in the past. She does not appear to be crazy, and speaks quite eloquently and educated. Several doctors who spoke are in agreement of very common sense points.

Healthgrades reviews (the very few) for "ZDoggMD" are quite an interesting read as well.

Whatever this case, there is something much bigger going on here.
Really.... it’s amazing. You got presented with stuff that debunks her... and you insist on her being credible.

Confirmation bias is strong with this one......

And that scares me man.
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Old 05-08-2020, 09:12 PM
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Re: Judy Mikovits

This is an interesting story. I would not say her work is definitively debunked as there are cases to be made from either side.

Mikovits was the research director of the Whittemore Peterson Institute
She was accused of being in possession of stolen property: her own research notebooks (which a colleague had taken at her request)
Harvey Whittemore criminally charged (later pleading guilty) for making illegal campaign donations to federal official
Judge on her case removes himself for receiving donations from Harvey Whittemore
Assistant DA drops case for several reasons.

Re: Covid patients. I do not yet know of anyone that has been tested positive for the virus.
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Really.... it’s amazing. You got presented with stuff that debunks her... and you insist on her being credible.

Confirmation bias is strong with this one......

And that scares me man.
Whatever this case, there is something much bigger going on here.

She is very Credible. Government is silencing her, along with media.
Dr Judy Mikovits, PhD is a Biochemist, cellular and molecular biologist with over 30 years of scientific expertise. She has directed programs on HIV, cancer, epigenetics, and neuroimmune disease, with a focus on development of novel drug and diagnostic technologies. Dr. Mikovits holds a PhD in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology from George Washington University. Her dissertation was on HIV latency and mechanisms of immune activation in monocytes. Dr. Mikovits was a Postdoctoral Scholar in Molecular Virology at the Laboratory of Genomic Diversity, National Cancer Institute under Dr. David Derse. Over the past 26 years, she has published 51 scientific papers in peer-reviewed journals, and worked as a government scientist for many years developing viruses and vaccinations. In 2011 when she made a horrifying discovery that was contaminating all vaccinations, she presented her data to government officials and was threatened & told to destroy all her data. When she did not she was jailed, her career systematically destroyed, and a gag order put in place for 4 years threatening that if she spoke out she would be thrown back in jail. That gag order has just lifted, and she's dumped the government right in it! She speaks about how autism is associated with vaccines, also cancers, chronic fatigue syndrome, alzheimers, auto immune diseases, allergies and more. She discusses how the cocktail of vaccinations pumped into babies mutate to develop months and years down the track into new viruses, cancers and diseases, some they dont even know about yet. She explains how the viruses injected through vaccines tear open our DNA and insert their own DNA to mutate our genetic makeup and be passed on generation after generation. She has been threatened with a suicide murder cover up, she doesn't care, she wants it all exposed.
https://vimeo.com/146831570

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Whatever this case, there is something much bigger going on here.

She is very Credible. Government is silencing her, along with media.
Dr Judy Mikovits, PhD is a Biochemist, cellular and molecular biologist with over 30 years of scientific expertise. She has directed programs on HIV, cancer, epigenetics, and neuroimmune disease, with a focus on development of novel drug and diagnostic technologies. Dr. Mikovits holds a PhD in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology from George Washington University. Her dissertation was on HIV latency and mechanisms of immune activation in monocytes. Dr. Mikovits was a Postdoctoral Scholar in Molecular Virology at the Laboratory of Genomic Diversity, National Cancer Institute under Dr. David Derse. Over the past 26 years, she has published 51 scientific papers in peer-reviewed journals, and worked as a government scientist for many years developing viruses and vaccinations. In 2011 when she made a horrifying discovery that was contaminating all vaccinations, she presented her data to government officials and was threatened & told to destroy all her data. When she did not she was jailed, her career systematically destroyed, and a gag order put in place for 4 years threatening that if she spoke out she would be thrown back in jail. That gag order has just lifted, and she's dumped the government right in it! She speaks about how autism is associated with vaccines, also cancers, chronic fatigue syndrome, alzheimers, auto immune diseases, allergies and more. She discusses how the cocktail of vaccinations pumped into babies mutate to develop months and years down the track into new viruses, cancers and diseases, some they dont even know about yet. She explains how the viruses injected through vaccines tear open our DNA and insert their own DNA to mutate our genetic makeup and be passed on generation after generation. She has been threatened with a suicide murder cover up, she doesn't care, she wants it all exposed.
https://vimeo.com/146831570
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She is very Credible. Government is silencing her, along with media.
Dr Judy Mikovits, PhD is a Biochemist, cellular and molecular biologist with over 30 years of scientific expertise. She has directed programs on HIV, cancer, epigenetics, and neuroimmune disease, with a focus on development of novel drug and diagnostic technologies. Dr. Mikovits holds a PhD in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology from George Washington University. Her dissertation was on HIV latency and mechanisms of immune activation in monocytes. Dr. Mikovits was a Postdoctoral Scholar in Molecular Virology at the Laboratory of Genomic Diversity, National Cancer Institute under Dr. David Derse. Over the past 26 years, she has published 51 scientific papers in peer-reviewed journals, and worked as a government scientist for many years developing viruses and vaccinations. In 2011 when she made a horrifying discovery that was contaminating all vaccinations, she presented her data to government officials and was threatened & told to destroy all her data. When she did not she was jailed, her career systematically destroyed, and a gag order put in place for 4 years threatening that if she spoke out she would be thrown back in jail. That gag order has just lifted, and she's dumped the government right in it! She speaks about how autism is associated with vaccines, also cancers, chronic fatigue syndrome, alzheimers, auto immune diseases, allergies and more. She discusses how the cocktail of vaccinations pumped into babies mutate to develop months and years down the track into new viruses, cancers and diseases, some they dont even know about yet. She explains how the viruses injected through vaccines tear open our DNA and insert their own DNA to mutate our genetic makeup and be passed on generation after generation. She has been threatened with a suicide murder cover up, she doesn't care, she wants it all exposed.
https://vimeo.com/146831570[/QUOTE]

The video I found said it was true.

Candace Estave posted it.

Anti vaxxer


But hey..... the video was well produced so..... it’s gotta be true.0


This is another seriously credible and well produced piece. Millions found it compelling. Serious credible source according to Britain’s Prime Minister at the time.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_6uVrO5d6KU
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My father in law got about three weeks ago in Arizona. He usually spends the winter there but ended up in the hospital. Double lung pneumonia and coughing fits for days. He said 23 out of 24 hours he had to rest because of no energy. We thought that was gonna be it for him as he is over 60 with a history of breathing issues. Since then he has recovered after a week in the hospital and now back in Canada, after the mandatory precautions of course. Haven’t seen him face to face yet. Got me thinking, anybody could be told that they test positive in the hospital but how would you know any different? Probably not the case but seems everyone has their tin foil hat on these days.
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Lost my Uncle to it a couple weeks back!
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my ex wife's mother tested positive . In a home here in Calgary in her 80s . Mild symptoms . Expected to fully recover . Thankfully my daughters haven't seen her for months
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My grandmother, who is in a nursing home in Ontario and is 90 years old had covid-19. Had very mild symptoms and recovered within two weeks.
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my ex wife's mother tested positive . In a home here in Calgary in her 80s . Mild symptoms . Expected to fully recover . Thankfully my daughters haven't seen her for months
I've worked in senior care and my wife works in senior care. People not seeing their elders in those places is the norm. Probably keeps the infection rate down in the long run, but still a shameful thing that so many have died and not seen a relative in months.

Go see her if she gets through this. Please. And so should more people.
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I think we had Covid 6..... we ate something that didnt agree with us.. we made the porcelain Goddess our home for a few days...The missus got the worst of it..
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I know five people in red deer who tested positive for it.
Wow. tested positive but were they sick with the symptoms or asymptomatic?
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Slept like crap on Monday night, went to work, chills, fever, headache. Called 811 to get an opinion if I should see a doc (felt like a regular cold). After a barrage of questions I was listed as suspected COVID and told I was on 10 mandatory isolation...the nurse went on about the requirements (separate bedroom & bath, separate meals, separate utensils, towels etc...must stay on property) it was a lot to take in as I was essentially locked down.

Bit scared but I had sick time to cover it, no clue how everything else was going to get done by my wife...nurse was clear...mandatory. I would get called for a swab but might not have the results before the 10 days is over.

Spoke to the wife (she's a nurse) said this doesn't sound right and I should go to the hospital...got checked out, minor infection that is responding well to pills.

So what if I didn't go in...10 days of an untreated infection...10 days of missed work...super inconvenient. It seems I had 1 of the more serious symptoms (fever) and a couple of minor ones (headache and minor cough). I'm guessing a lot of folks that call in can get parked for 10 days, some needlessly.

I appreciate the abundance of caution, seriously I do but there are financial and personal ramifications.
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And what did your Dr say it was?


I ask because the wife and I had something similar that the Dr said was not the flu but a viral infection. He put both of us on a heavy regimen of antibiotics as well and sent me in for chest x-rays. I believe many may have had covid already but just weren't properly diagnosed with it early on because it was still virtually an unknown virus.
Antibiotics for a virus is wierd, certainly not s.o.p.


I know nobody with Covid although my wife and daughter were tested, both negative and I live about 20 minutes from Cargill.

Mikovics (sp) is a hack, her issues started when some of her published research had to be retracted because the methods were flawed and couldn't be duplicated by other researchers. Well known in the research field that she took shortcuts and then tried to defend them and was ostracized. Her arrest was stated to be for laptops and equipment that belonged to the university she allegedly took when she was dismissed. She claims it was her own notebooks that were at issue, neither has ever re-appeared. Just because you didn't get convicted doesn't mean you didn't do it OJ.
She has no scientific credibility.
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