150 coyote carcasses found near Milk River Ridge - Page 2

RolHammer · #31 03-12-2016, 08:16 AM

I agree to a point, but is an animal carcass really trash?

I think the point where this dump site jumped the shark was when more than a few got dumped together. At that point it probably becomes a 'proper disposal' issue. Spread around though, if it was noticed at all it'd likely be perceived differently.

Dick284 · #32 03-12-2016, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RolHammer

I agree to a point, but is an animal carcass really trash?

I think the point where this dump site jumped the shark was when more than a few got dumped together. At that point it probably becomes a 'proper disposal' issue. Spread around though, if it was noticed at all it'd likely be perceived differently.

X2^

We are indeed our own worst enemies, if collectively and individually, we can't muster up enough forethought in our actions to realize not every person out there gets this hunting, fishing, trapping, self sufficient thing.......you attract far more flies with honey than you do vinegar.

Putting on some degree of "polish" never hurt anyone's chances of swaying supporters your way.

58thecat · #33 03-12-2016, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by oldgutpile

Totally biodegradable, but someone should have maybe used a bit more tact on where they were dumping them.
I've seen where the local fur buyer composts his, and before the next season, you wouldn't even know anything had been dumped there.

Exactly someone got thier panties in a knot!

Don K · #34 03-12-2016, 09:46 AM

Dig a hole...

Personally I leave them where they fall.

ram crazy · #35 03-12-2016, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RolHammer

I agree to a point, but is an animal carcass really trash?

I think the point where this dump site jumped the shark was when more than a few got dumped together. At that point it probably becomes a 'proper disposal' issue. Spread around though, if it was noticed at all it'd likely be perceived differently.

Why not just throw in the trash. If they are just dumped they will just rot and decay, because nothing will eat the carcass. You know it's bad when one coyote won't eat another coyote carcass. According to F&W it's a $250 ticket.

Lefty-Canuck · #36 03-12-2016, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

Why not just throw in the trash. If they are just dumped they will just rot and decay, because nothing will eat the carcass. You know it's bad when one coyote won't eat another coyote carcass. According to F&W it's a $250 ticket.

That ticket could apply per carcass

LC

ram crazy · #37 03-12-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

That ticket could apply per carcass

LC

You betcha, but it must be ok to just dump where ever you want because nude said so. He does it all the time.

KBF · #38 03-12-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

That ticket could apply per carcass

LC

If convicted that would cut into the profits pretty quick wouldn't it.

Lefty-Canuck · #39 03-12-2016, 10:45 AM

Shot and killed coyotes can lay where they fall but these ones are an issue.

If there was only one would it be a big deal? The widespread optics on this serves no benefits to outdoorsmen.

LC

Lefty-Canuck · #40 03-12-2016, 10:47 AM

It's actually amazing how quick and clean the birds will make work of a coyote carcass.

LC

Positrac · #41 03-12-2016, 10:50 AM

Sounds like a good start.

scruffy · #42 03-12-2016, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HoytCRX32

What is the danger (if any) of leaving mangy carcasses at a site like this? Could other coyotes/foxes/dogs investigating the site get infected? This area is very important habitat for the swift fox.
Just asking, not accusing.

The swift fox? By Ridge Reservoir .. ???

nube · #43 03-12-2016, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

Why not just throw in the trash. If they are just dumped they will just rot and decay, because nothing will eat the carcass. You know it's bad when one coyote won't eat another coyote carcass. According to F&W it's a $250 ticket.

If I toss mine here at home the ravens eat it in less than a week. I think on the prairies there is nothing eating them up and it takes a while for them to rott. Throwing them in the trash is not a smart idea at all as it will only take one carcass that is seen to blow it up into a big deal as well. The chances of people seeing them in the trash is a very high. I kill well in excess of 100 coyotes a year and I am not about to throw them in the trash or pay $10 + gas money every few days to dump some either. They need to go back in the bush and out of site as best you can.

nube · #44 03-12-2016, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

You betcha, but it must be ok to just dump where ever you want because nude said so. He does it all the time.

Just wondering if you were talking to me and have Dyslexia or just hit the wrong button lol
Glad your so perfect Ram Crazy. Sorry , common sense gets the best of me some times.

mark-edmonton · #45 03-12-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

Why not just throw in the trash. If they are just dumped they will just rot and decay, because nothing will eat the carcass. You know it's bad when one coyote won't eat another coyote carcass. According to F&W it's a $250 ticket.

I don't catch a lot of coyotes. But the ones I used for bait got eaten no problem. Who says nothing will eat them?

pointer · #46 03-12-2016, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nube

Just wondering if you were talking to me and have Dyslexia or just hit the wrong button lol
Glad your so perfect Ram Crazy. Sorry , common sense gets the best of me some times.

Hi nude where do you dump your carcasses

HoytCRX32 · #47 03-12-2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffy

The swift fox? By Ridge Reservoir .. ???

Many were released near milk River ...isn't the reservoir there?

rcmc · #48 03-12-2016, 04:41 PM

No where near the drop sites for swift fox.

Torkdiesel · #49 03-12-2016, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

Why not just throw in the trash. If they are just dumped they will just rot and decay, because nothing will eat the carcass. You know it's bad when one coyote won't eat another coyote carcass. According to F&W it's a $250 ticket.

I've dumped thousands of carcasses on crown land, never hauled one to a landfill site in my life. Everything gets eaten and goes back to the earth, there are no exceptions.

ram crazy · #50 03-12-2016, 05:19 PM

Any coyotes I've shot and left nothing has touched them.

HoytCRX32 · #51 03-12-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rcmc

No where near the drop sites for swift fox.

My question was more about the potential for transmitting mange to other canids, not about release sites, although I'm quite certain swift fox just may move away from where they were released, provided the habitat is good (which this is).

pointer · #52 03-12-2016, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ram crazy

Any coyotes I've shot and left nothing has touched them.

Soon as that fur comes off they get eat fast. Maybe skin them and they will get eaten up

winger7mm · #53 03-12-2016, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pointer

Soon as that fur comes off they get eat fast. Maybe skin them and they will get eaten up

Hes pretty good at leaving things behind

winger7mm · #54 03-12-2016, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HoytCRX32

Many were released near milk River ...isn't the reservoir there?

No sir, Im not sure how many km it is from the res to the town milkriver but its gotta be 50km or so

nube · #55 03-12-2016, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by winger7mm

Hes pretty good at leaving things behind

Sheep or coyotes lol

Newview01 · #56 03-12-2016, 10:57 PM

Magpies make quick work of carcasses left on the prairies.

This shouldn't be an issue. Lefties love mangey Coyotes as much as they do gophers. Or Richardsons Ground Squirrels if you go to the UofL.

RolHammer · #57 03-13-2016, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HoytCRX32

My question was more about the potential for transmitting mange to other canids

This was something I was wondering about too. I've just assumed the large numbers guys recycle their carcasses back onto bait piles or chuck them back into the bush when checking their lines, either of which is completely reasonable IMO. When it comes to mangy/mite-infested carcasses though, I've wondered if they do something different to break the infestation cycle like maybe burning them instead.

I see from time to time the assertions that coyotes carcasses don't get eaten & don't really buy that. There are too many opportunistic feeders in the ecosystem that I just can't see that being the case.

And in terms of putting these things in the trash as other posters have brought up, I don't think that's a sustainable option either. A deer once a year or coyote here or there is one thing, but large volumes are an entirely different matter. Municipally speaking, landfilling large volumes of animal carcass waste is something that requires its own considerations. For example: http://www.strathcona.ca/departments...oper-disposal/ There are far better ways to return these things back to the environment than landfilling them.

ram crazy · #58 03-13-2016, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by winger7mm

Hes pretty good at leaving things behind

I was wondering how long it would take squirrel to chime in. Don't know what your taking about,but it sounds good.

H380 · #59 03-13-2016, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HoytCRX32

Many were released near milk River ...isn't the reservoir there?

I'm afraid the swift fox deal is another waste of time and money . That was along time ago and I know the HUTT kids caught a few in traps in this area but I live near there and have never seen one .

6mm rem · #60 03-13-2016, 07:57 AM

I am not saying these coyotes were disposed of in a tactful manner, but at least they will decompose if they are not eaten by scavengers first. If the authorities want to go crazy handing out litter fines the should also issue them people who discard there herbicide jugs in ditches and let grain/silage bags blow across the country side. I think that is a bigger eye sore. Doesn't take much for people to get butt hurt these days. Just my 2 cents.