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12-16-2016, 05:58 PM
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My fire is burning as of 5 pm, and will be until around 11 pm, 3 years of wood here
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12-16-2016, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
It is estimated that the average household, with two children will be paying about $350 in extra taxes per year.
If said household's income is less than $101,500.00 they will be eligible for upto $360 in rebates.
The claim is that in most cases it will be a wash.
So let's wait till it actually comes into effect before we claim doom and gloom.
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Can't have that kind of thinking around here! It gets the monkeys all worked up!
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12-16-2016, 06:37 PM
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As painful as this will be for everybody
I'm looking forward to the smug little socialists getting a dose of cold hard reality. This is what you wanted, now own it.
It will be especially gratifying once they start whining that "this isn't fair, we thought the carbon tax only applied to other people."
It's only a matter of time.
And for those that are accepting the current governments published economic impact studies
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“We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did.”- Thomas Sowell
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12-16-2016, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by urban rednek
I'm looking forward to the smug little socialists getting a dose of cold hard reality. This is what you wanted, now own it.
It will be especially gratifying once they start whining that "this isn't fair, we thought the carbon tax only applied to other people."
It's only a matter of time.
And for those that are accepting the current governments published economic impact studies
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Im thinking the same thing every day, 2 more years to remind them who they work for
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12-16-2016, 07:08 PM
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Or you could go with the miracle solution via Trudeau/Notley
You get yourself a unicorn and hook up it's backside to your furnace and also put an extension cord to it's pecker.Then you just feed it gum drops and rainbows and and self-satisfied thoughts about saving the climate and all of your heat and electricity worries are gone.The unicorns miracle farts will heat your home and it's ejaculate will provide all the electricity you need.
FTH
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12-16-2016, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sjd
You mean the families making more than 100k per year that don't get the full rebate?
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I'm sure that will be a real money maker.
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12-16-2016, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sjd
Can you please stop muddying the waters with all these facts. Its not helpful when we are trying to scare people. 6/10 people are going to get a check in the mail first week of January to offset the increase based on 100 GJ of gas per year and 4500 litres of gasoline per year.
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Should this not read 6/10 get to take money from their friends, relatives and Neighbours to offset costs that all 10 incur
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12-16-2016, 08:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobtodrick
It is estimated that the average household, with two children will be paying about $350 in extra taxes per year.
If said household's income is less than $101,500.00 they will be eligible for upto $360 in rebates.
The claim is that in most cases it will be a wash.
So let's wait till it actually comes into effect before we claim doom and gloom.
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The government is going to receive my money and return it in full with interest? and help create jobs while we save the environment?! Why weren't we able to come up with this before?
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12-16-2016, 08:13 PM
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Some people forget that the cost of all goods will be going up as companies try to make up for the tax. Yes lots will get rebates for some of the tax but they won't get rebates for the increased cost of groceries, parts etc.
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12-16-2016, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by boonie
Some people forget that the cost of all goods will be going up as companies try to make up for the tax. Yes lots will get rebates for some of the tax but they won't get rebates for the increased cost of groceries, parts etc.
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Pssst, don't confuse the issue with facts, it messes with their "feels".
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“We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did.”- Thomas Sowell
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12-16-2016, 08:39 PM
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Well after these responses I think that whatever the outcome will be, most if not all of us, are not well informed enough on the impact of this policy!
That in and of itself makes me nervous about 2017.
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12-16-2016, 10:28 PM
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Gullibility-
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobtodrick
It is estimated that the average household, with two children will be paying about $350 in extra taxes per year.
If said household's income is less than $101,500.00 they will be eligible for upto $360 in rebates.
The claim is that in most cases it will be a wash.
So let's wait till it actually comes into effect before we claim doom and gloom.
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So you actually believe that this govt will take the political hit to implement a taxation program that, according to your numbers or theirs, will Actually provide the govt with a net=nothing for the majority of households in Alberta??? But cost the govt in votes and in admin wages.
Really????? I have some beautiful really cheap vacation property in Florida for sale. Water front and beach too. Interested????
A simplistic view of this carbon tax will just look at their own direct cost increases (based on govt spin numbers) and think nothing of the cost increases that will be applied to everything they buy and consume. All goods and services will have a carbon tax effect. Prices will go up or else layoffs will happen in businesses. Rents will go up. Food will go up. Many carbon tax costs will be hidden for most.
That's what this govt is banking on. That most people will be too stupid to realize the effect. Matches their current MO and beliefs. Afterall can you blame them???? 40% of voters were gullible enough to believe the absolute lies they spun last election. How's that tax the rich and balance the budget thing working out???
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12-17-2016, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 2 Tollers
Should this not read 6/10 get to take money from their friends, relatives and Neighbours to offset costs that all 10 incur
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12-17-2016, 07:29 AM
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Depending on how much more things cost I will be making some changes to my program only to take it from somewhere else it effects our government of coarse
I wonder if Notley will feel her time and effort was wasted in a couple years when the next elected party wipes almost every trace of her
If Alberta is crazy enough of re elect the NDP I have lost all faith in this province, I didn't vote in the last provincial election and I'm clearly seeing how important it actually is
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12-19-2016, 11:04 PM
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Where's drunk Ralph when you need him...400 Bucks per person per household...
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12-19-2016, 11:17 PM
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Hey I was reading this news article today which you may find informative. I think they have an online calculator as well to see exactly how much more you'll be paying.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...nada-1.3895133
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12-20-2016, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by GoFlames
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That is not news, it is propaganda from the NDP being passed off as news from our tax funded broadcaster.
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12-20-2016, 08:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CMichaud
Well after these responses I think that whatever the outcome will be, most if not all of us, are not well informed enough on the impact of this policy!
That in and of itself makes me nervous about 2017.
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I'm well informed enough to know that this is going to cost me more along with everything else that these Communist handytards are ramming down our throats. Can't wait until they start taxing us for burning wood and methane release on sewage and flatulence…..
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