Giving in!!!!!

[barbless]

So it appears that with everything that has gone on in the last few months certain sports team names, other landmark and historic names will be put to bed because of racial implications tied to them.
Washington Redskins, Edmonton Eskimos and James Short Park and School in Calgary. Just to name a few. I'm sure this list will grow to ridiculous proportions. Guess some will end up in the bad history books and others in the new good history books.

[CaberTosser]

It doesn’t surprise me at all that the James Short one was brought up in council by Druh Farrell, that woman is from another planet entirely. I’d never heard of the past controversy, but we all know that as we speak there are leftists pouring over history books searching for stuff to get offended by. “Eureka, I’m offended!!” “Now to go make a name for myself by judging someone who is long dead by today’s standards.”

[1899b]

Nike quit producing Washington Redskins apparel last week....

There are quite a few pro, minor pro and junior teams that will probably be pressured to change their names. It’s the times we live in now...

[calgarychef]

“Cultural appropriation” so now that we’ve been “woke” (woked?) and are busy remediating our past...ain’t it about time to have the discussion about natives wearing cowboy hats? And we should especially talk about those kids wearing ball caps backwards and offending the “ white culture.”

[bat119]

Even John Wayne can't escape

the University of Southern California’s School of Cinematic Arts has made the decision to remove its John Wayne exhibit as a result of the late Hollywood star’s history of racism.
The western movie actor later defended historical American colonizers after they stole the land of Indigenous peoples.

“I don’t feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them,” Wayne said. “Our so-called stealing of this country from them was a matter of survival.

“There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/7169491/j...acist-remarks/

[HuyFishin]

I don't know why they are making aunt jemima disappear.

I wish they would just use the branding to honour her. She has been part of everyone's history. I grew up eating Aunt jemima pancakes and syrup

[58thecat]

Times they are a changing.....

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by calgarychef

“Cultural appropriation” so now that we’ve been “woke” (woked?) and are busy remediating our past...ain’t it about time to have the discussion about natives wearing cowboy hats? And we should especially talk about those kids wearing ball caps backwards and offending the “ white culture.”

I’ve wondered why cultural appropriation is only a one-way thing to the professionally offended? Under no circumstance are white people to be offended by other cultures mimicking us.

I’ve seen a local service company called Men in Kilts, there was a crew that looked to be from the Philippines in corporate garb and was I offended? No, I was amused, and happy that the gents had jobs. It’s just that easy people....

[sns2]

Well, at the risk of angering some... should pro sports teams in 2020 really be named after identifiable people groups? Are there not better monikers and mascots out there?

I am an Eskimos fan. It's a stupid name. Would any group of kids on the playground or new school choosing a team name ever choose "Eskimos?" "Hey, we are the Eskimos!"

I think not.

Change the damn name and move on. The uniforms and logo are pure crap anyhow. Be honest. EE? Lame. Compare them to any other team in the league and they suck. My kids, who loved coming to games when they were little, never once asked me for an Eskimos anything. However, my son asks, and now buys on his own, lots of NFL gear,

I have no idea who that school is named after, but if a school is named after someone who was a bad apple then change that name and move on.

I know it has to end somewhere, but times change. Change is the only constant in life, and the angriest people I encounter are those who get their underwear in a really tight knot over stuff like this. The older I get, the more I refuse to get wound up over miniscule stuff like this.

[fishtank]

Simply business decisions .... pro sports it’s a business like Netflix.

[Twisted Canuck]

Plainly put, there are many many people who make a damn good living out of the Grievance Industry. Think Al Sharpton and BLM, Pam Palmater, Tsiporah Bergman, David Suzuki, Wendy Cukier, Greta the Child of the Corn, and on and on, pick your Cause. If they weren't complaining and making noise and promoting whatever Grievance they have, the paychecks stop.

So the only thing that is sure, is that the Offense and Injustice will never end. Too many livelihoods depend on it.

[coreya3212]

Originally Posted by sns2

Well, at the risk of angering some... should pro sports teams in 2020 really be named after identifiable people groups? Are there not better monikers and mascots out there?

I am an Eskimos fan. It's a stupid name. Would any group of kids on the playground or new school choosing a team name ever choose "Eskimos?" "Hey, we are the Eskimos!"

I think not.

Change the damn name and move on. The uniforms and logo are pure crap anyhow. Be honest. EE? Lame. Compare them to any other team in the league and they suck. My kids, who loved coming to games when they were little, never once asked me for an Eskimos anything. However, my son asks, and now buys on his own, lots of NFL gear,

I have no idea who that school is named after, but if a school is named after someone who was a bad apple then change that name and move on.

I know it has to end somewhere, but times change. Change is the only constant in life, and the angriest people I encounter are those who get their underwear in a really tight knot over stuff like this. The older I get, the more I refuse to get wound up over miniscule stuff like this.

The thing is, they are not being named in 2020. They are being renamed. There is a difference. What is your last name? Anyone with that last name own a slave a 100 years ago? At the risk of angering some..

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by sns2

Well, at the risk of angering some... should pro sports teams in 2020 really be named after identifiable people groups? Are there not better monikers and mascots out there?

I am an Eskimos fan. It's a stupid name. Would any group of kids on the playground or new school choosing a team name ever choose "Eskimos?" "Hey, we are the Eskimos!"

I think not.

Change the damn name and move on. The uniforms and logo are pure crap anyhow. Be honest. EE? Lame. Compare them to any other team in the league and they suck. My kids, who loved coming to games when they were little, never once asked me for an Eskimos anything. However, my son asks, and now buys on his own, lots of NFL gear,

I have no idea who that school is named after, but if a school is named after someone who was a bad apple then change that name and move on.

I know it has to end somewhere, but times change. Change is the only constant in life, and the angriest people I encounter are those who get their underwear in a really tight knot over stuff like this. The older I get, the more I refuse to get wound up over miniscule stuff like this.

ohhh my sounds like your a little engaged...angry...wound up too.

some change is good, some not so, just gotta be careful making change when the pendulum has swung to far right or left, best wait until she gets a little more even keel....

[sns2]

Originally Posted by coreya3212

The thing is, they are not being named in 2020. They are being renamed. There is a difference. What is your last name? Anyone with that last name own a slave a 100 years ago? At the risk of angering some..

Hell no. No slaves here. In 1920, Great Baba, after she did her chores was still picking stones out of the quarter her and my great grandfather homesteaded in Lamont county. They were poor folks in the old country too, which is why they came here in the first place in 1896.

In all seriousness, please tell me why it is okay to have a people group as your sports team name? If I were Inuit, I would say "I am not your bloody mascot!"

And don't go accusing me of being a lefty because I'm a teacher. My sig line, as well as UCP and CPC memberships, scream my political leaning. LOL.

[1899b]

Washington Redskins,

Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Indians,

Chicago Blackhawks,

Portland Winterhawks, Spokane Chiefs, Moosejaw Warriors,

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by 1899b

Washington Redskins,

Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Indians,

Chicago Blackhawks,

Portland Winterhawks, Spokane Chiefs, Moosejaw Warriors,

it honors these people as being united, a very team spirited warrior driven entity is how I see it....

[Albertadiver]

The latest woke movement is renaming any peak or climbing route in the Rockies that could even remotely offend some poor soul.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

ohhh my sounds like your a little engaged...angry...wound up too.

some change is good, some not so, just gotta be careful making change when the pendulum has swung to far right or left, best wait until she gets a little more even keel....

Nope, not in the slightest. Just enjoying my second cup of coffee

Only thing that makes me angry about football is that the dude who runs the CFL asks for in excess of $100 million to prop up a money losing league when hardworking Albertans can't make their payments.

As for the name, it was game over the moment Bel Air Direct said they are pulling their sponsorship money.

Here is my take on things. Their are always gonna be dark chapters in a nation's history. You can't change that. However, if you celebrate those dark chapters then something is kinda off plumb. Cheering the name of a people group that were rounded up and given tags identifying them as Eskimos before they plucked them away from mom and dad, so they could go and become little Europeans, when a fast dude takes the pigskin into the end zone is a touch off plumb. It just is. Divorce yourself from the great on field results of the team in the 50s and 80s - which can be hard - and most reasonable people will agree.

In a year or two no one will care. Same as that school name someone referred to. Change is always hard in the moment. But some things are okay to change. This is likely one of them.

[jungleboy]

Edmonton Eskimos could change over to the Edmonton Socialists or the Edmonton Watermelons. ( green on the outside Red on the inside ) to reflect the traditional Edmonton socialist political agenda.


Maybe they should just change their name to. We’re Sorry

[sns2]

Originally Posted by Albertadiver

The latest woke movement is renaming any peak or climbing route in the Rockies that could even remotely offend some poor soul.

And this is where it gets dicey, because where does it end, and who determines that? I really don't know. There certainly are no easy answers. But I do know that if I were a visible minority, I would not appreciate the majority using my people's identity as a mascot name.

[jcrayford]

Wait until the push to rename the Calgary Flames starts, as it offends people of a certain sexual preference?

I"M JUST KIDDING!!!!!

The world needs to take my comments less seriously.....

J.

[bat119]

As a long time Rider fan I could offer a few suggestions for the Esky's name change my new names would only offend their fans.

[Rvsask]

I’m likely in the minority but really could care less about what sports teams do. Maybe it’s the giant money involved in so many leagues, I’m not sure but I’m no super fan of any kind despite still participating in many recreational sports.
It’s really not a new thing and was years ago when the University of North Dakota began on this path towards name change. What were the Fighting Sioux are now the Fighting Hawks.
Big deal.

[catnthehat]

We have become a society of pansies and weaklings , offended at the most insignificant things and demanding things get changed because they are "offensive", and changing names of of things like sport teams and food because we no longer wish to offend other people.
In am NOT responsible for something that happened that I am not directly connected with , and I will be dammed if I will apologize for ANYTHING I had no direct connection with .
As far as sports teams names go , screw them , they are entertainers only.
Cat

[Supermag]

Maybe we need a lame name like Ottawa has. Name all the teams based on their jersey colors.

Then those rowdy Greenwhites fans can come and watch their team play our Greengolds.

Let's go Greengolds! LOL. Lame

[Rvsask]

There’s gotta be another good E team name out there that fits, maybe the Evangelicals.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

We have become a society of pansies and weaklings , offended at the most insignificant things and demanding things get changed because they are "offensive", and changing names of of things like sport teams and food because we no longer wish to offend other people.
In am NOT responsible for something that happened that I am not directly connected with , and I will be dammed if I will apologize for ANYTHING I had no direct connection with .
As far as sports teams names go , screw them , they are entertainers only.
Cat

Now we are getting somewhere, Cat. You are sharing your true feelings. Peeling back the layers like an onion. This is good. Next session we will work on going even deeper, now that the trigger point has been identified.

My point is that there are some hills worth dying on, and we have to pick those hills. Statues of Prime Ministers would be a hill I'd fight on. A damn sports team named after a people group? Not worth my time. Change every team name that is an identifiable people group and move on. All at once, just like cough syrup or an enema. Just don't give them a cent of my taxes or pay their American players CERB money like the commissioner wanted the feds to do!

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by Supermag

Maybe we need a lame name like Ottawa has. Name all the teams based on their jersey colors.

Then those rowdy Greenwhites fans can come and watch their team play our Greengolds.

Let's go Greengolds! LOL. Lame

I was thinking we should go with Edmonton Empire Roughriders!

BW

[barbless]

Just a tid bit of James Short

James Short Park and School could be renamed due to history of anti-Chinese racism.
Short was a lawyer and school principal who served as an alderman on Calgary city council. But in 1910, he also helped lead an effort to stop Chinese Calgarians from establishing the Chinatown that still stands today, just south of the Bow River. Short was the lawyer and spokesperson for a group that said this couldn’t be allowed because property values would be reduced if Chinese people moved into the area. According to a historical context paper published by the City of Calgary, there was a “significant push” to segregate Chinese people throughout Calgary instead of allowing a Chinatown community.

[barbless]

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

I was thinking we should go with Edmonton Empire Roughriders!

BW

How about just SCHMOES