frist shot gun

[redneckflyfisher]

hi i am 21 year old i am going to get my pal on the 24 i am looking to buy a good all around shot gun i was looking at the remington 870 is it a good gun ??

[catnthehat]

If you can find an older wingmaster, they are great guns, yes!
The 870 Express normally is also a good gun, and a very inexpensive way to shoot steel, but sometimnes they need a bit of tweaking to get them running really smooth.
I buy them quite often when see them fora deal.
Cat

[dogslayer403]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

If you can find an older wingmaster, they are great guns, yes!
The 870 Express normally is also a good gun, and a very inexpensive way to shoot steel, but sometimnes they need a bit of tweaking to get them running really smooth.
I buy them quite often when see them fora deal.
Cat

x2 I purchased 3 of them about 5 or 6 years ago new and everyone jammed on every kind of ammo I was not impressed but a gunsmith I know showed me a trick with some fine steel wool and a drill to polish the chambers took about 5 minutes of time and the one I kept has been killing geese and ducks without fail since so they can be very good but like cat said may require some minor care first.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by dogslayer403

x2 I purchased 3 of them about 5 or 6 years ago new and everyone jammed on every kind of ammo I was not impressed but a gunsmith I know showed me a trick with some fine steel wool and a drill to polish the chambers took about 5 minutes of time and the one I kept has been killing geese and ducks without fail since so they can be very good but like cat said may require some minor care first.

I use a strip of ScotchBrite pad and a Dewalt cordless.
The drill is standard equipment in my truck during Sunday range time!!
cat

[timsesink]

Any of the pump shotguns in the 400 price range would serve you well, get to a store and shoulder them. Really there's not much quality difference just various designs. Nice thing about the 870 is all the aftermarket options however the Winchester pump sure caught my eye last time I was in!

[catnthehat]

It's often quite possible to pick up a used 37 Ithaca for a decent price as well, and although i personally do not like them, I think the are a very well built gun, super reliable, and highly underated!
I could never like th egrip or the botom loading system for them - I do own one however!
The Mossbergs seem to be a good price point with lots of accessories available as well.....
Cat

[Hogie135]

Checkout the Winchester SXP as well. Decently priced and although I haven't shot one, I did handle it at WSS and I feels great in the shoulder. Reviews for it are very good as well.

[Winch101]

I have owned a few 870 wing masters .....I think I would
Like one of those Black Rem. Exp. Shorty 20 ga....
Glad to hear they can be tweaked to good.
The wife might shoot it as we'll ...
Tried to sell a couple of O/U no luck
So keep shooting them.....Cat what is the drill for .W101

[coppershot]

I don't own one but hear they are well built. Whats your intended use? I see your name is Redneck fly fisher, are you planning on carrying it while out fly fishing? I ask this because I own a Winchester defender and a Mossberg maverick, and even though the defender is built better, cycles faster and feels better, I always grab the maverick if I plan on carrying it while out fishing because it is noticeably lighter and goes bang just the same...

[redneckflyfisher]

my plan is yes take it fly fishing and clay shoting and maybe hunt some ducks i work at jiffy lube so i cant spend a arm and a leg for it everyone is telling me to go for the 870 its a good alround gun and cheap

[Gary K]

no problems with my 870's
i even bought one off of cat!


did it get the scotch brite job cat? is that why i like it so much?

[redneckflyfisher]

i missed out there was a 870 for sell at bass pro for 299 any one got a good one to sell

[keep6matt]

Love my 870 Wingmaster, never had a problem and highly recommend one. Cat is right about the Ithaca's....highly under rated shotgun but I recommend as the other fellow members did....go shop around, shoulder one and get one that suites your budget but most importantly that feels right to your shoulder and swing. Congratz on your PAL and welcome to the wonderful world of sport and game shooting.

[tikka250]

If you want kind of an "all around gun" if you can manage to find the feild/defense package for the winchester sxp pump i would recomend it. It comes with a 28" feild barrel with3chokes and a 18" cylender bore defence barrel. I have that setup and love the inertia driven pump and super soft recoil pad.the only downside is less aftermarket stuff than the 870 and a slightly higher price tag.

[keep6matt]

Originally Posted by redneckflyfisher

i missed out there was a 870 for sell at bass pro for 299 any one got a good one to sell

Got mine for $150 back in the day when they introduced the gun registries and everyone was freaking out and selling their iron for dirt cheap....he shoots, he scores!!!

[redneckflyfisher]

thanks mat and everyone for the info

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Gary K

no problems with my 870's
i even bought one off of cat!


did it get the scotch brite job cat? is that why i like it so much?

if it's an Express, it likely did , just because!!
I usually go right threogh any rifle or shotgun I get before selling it, just to make sure it's good to go.
Cat

[redneckflyfisher]

cat do u sell guns normaly

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by redneckflyfisher

cat do u sell guns normaly

Every now and then I sell a gun, yup!
Cat

[Gary K]

cant believe a few of the beauties youare selling right now!
i would love that 4 barrel set!

need to come up with 4 k somehow....


or, you can jsut give it to me

[redneckflyfisher]

i will keep that in mind

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by Gary K

cant believe a few of the beauties youare selling right now!
i would love that 4 barrel set!

need to come up with 4 k somehow....


or, you can jsut give it to me

Let's see now, lemme think about dat...... uh, NOPE!
Cat

[Metalmike123]

Personally own a Remington 870 and two Mossberg 500s, all of them perform flawlessly. Remingtons are around 400 bucks and a great buy. Mossbergs feel lighter and cheaper, but I find they work well.

[redneckflyfisher]

Originally Posted by Metalmike123

Personally own a Remington 870 and two Mossberg 500s, all of them perform flawlessly. Remingtons are around 400 bucks and a great buy. Mossbergs feel lighter and cheaper, but I find they work well.

thanks

[adogwiththumbs]

Sorry fellas, not trying to knock the wingmaster as I have one and love it. My first shotgun was a model 12 winchester, it's a real quality piece. Do not overlook one if the opportunity presents itself. If you don't believe me,ask Cat! It is still my favorite and goto shotgun.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by adogwiththumbs

Sorry fellas, not trying to knock the wingmaster as I have one and love it. My first shotgun was a model 12 winchester, it's a real quality piece. Do not overlook one if the opportunity presents itself. If you don't believe me,ask Cat! It is still my favorite and goto shotgun.

The M12's had indestructible barrels, but that being said, I wouldn't shoot steel out of 0ne with a full choke!!
A bit on the heavy side for an upland gun IMO.
That being said, I still own one!!
Good guns that you can pick up in field series for about $200 at times, hone them out to modified with a brake hone, and give 'er!!
Cat

[Redneck Tommy]

My 870 express took about 100 round before it wouldn't jam on 3 inch load but now it works perfectly but kinda regret not buying the Winchester but it got a plastic stock and I have yet to buy a gun that doesn't have a wood stock

[coolpete1]

where do you scotchbrite it ? i have a new 870 with 1 round out the barrel ,i wanna do what you recomend?

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by coolpete1

where do you scotchbrite it ? i have a new 870 with 1 round out the barrel ,i wanna do what you recomend?

Right into the chamber .
I'll post up a new thread on how to do it this weekend!
That way, others who also have good tips can also post in .
Cat

[redneckflyfisher]

my dads friends got a Winchester sxt 12 gage for sell is it a good gun