best place to get weatherby brass?

KENWORTH · #1 11-20-2009, 09:44 AM

I was wondering where to get a decent price on 30-378 weatherby brass here in alberta? I cannot find anything!!

Dick284 · #2 11-20-2009, 09:50 AM

There have been lots of posts lately regarding Weatherby brass and availability.

From what I can tell it's gonna be an uphill battle.

Good luck

James Henry · #3 11-20-2009, 01:28 PM

Try Bashaw Sports, the have alot of odd-ball things. I was able to get brass for my 25wssm there. They are very good to deal with.

hoyt hntr · #4 11-20-2009, 08:03 PM

kodiak lake in barrhead just got some more in, but i know it has been very difficult to find.

Huntnut · #5 11-21-2009, 09:55 AM

I was in WSS in Grande Praire yesterday and they had A box of 30-378 weatherby brass.

Faststeel · #6 11-23-2009, 11:14 PM

Ken W

I have some 30-378 new brass I can sell to you, how many pieces would you like? FS

KENWORTH · #7 11-24-2009, 03:32 AM

location , brand n i was looking to get 40,.....and of coarce how much$$$$

Faststeel · #8 11-24-2009, 02:31 PM

Ken

I am in Edmonton, and 40 pieces is no problem, what are they ,like $4.00 each retail?

Regards Greg

Faststeel · #9 11-24-2009, 02:36 PM

Geez i see a box of 20 rounds is $160.00 with tax, that is insane. FS

#10 11-24-2009, 06:12 PM

I still had some on the shelf a week ago. I will see if it is still there or if I have any other brass..

KENWORTH · #11 11-24-2009, 09:04 PM

what makes it a crime is at cabelas in the u.s.,...has boxes of 20, norma percision brass for 62$ a box.

..being 40 min from the boarder, I might just have to make a trip. How hard is it to get empty brass across the line?....unless I can get it here reasonable

Faststeel · #12 11-25-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KENWORTH

what makes it a crime is at cabelas in the u.s.,...has boxes of 20, norma percision brass for 62$ a box.

..being 40 min from the boarder, I might just have to make a trip. How hard is it to get empty brass across the line?....unless I can get it here reasonable

It hard unless you get caught, then you could lose your vehicle.

I can sell them to you for $3.50 each, plus shipping, you can save some money on gas, and have no risk. FS

KENWORTH · #13 11-25-2009, 07:32 AM

Ammunition
You may import authorized sporting and competitive ammunition and reloading components for your personal use.

Quantities that may be imported for personal use and not for sale without requiring an Explosives Importation Permit from Natural Resources Canada (NRCan) include:

•small-arms, sporting ammunition, up to a maximum of 5,000 rounds;
•primers, up to a quantity of 5,000;
•empty primed cartridge cases, up to a quantity of 5,000; and
•propellants, smokeless powder in containers not exceeding 4 kilograms and black powder in containers not exceeding 500 grams, up to a maximum total combined quantity of 8 kilograms, (17.66 pounds).
Consult with the Explosives Regulatory Division at NRCan to determine if the ammunition you wish to import is authorized and approved for importation and use in Canada. Note that tracer, armour-piercing and similar military cartridges are prohibited under Canadian law.

Within these limits, non-residents can import 200 rounds duty free for hunting purposes, or up to 1,500 rounds duty free for use at a recognized competition.

You can make arrangements to import larger quantities through a Canadian shooting association, committee or federation for team practice and competition at meets. For information on permits to import quantities of ammunition in excess of those mentioned above or for the purposes of sale, contact:

Explosives Regulatory Division
Natural Resources Canada
1431 Merivale Road
Ottawa ON K2E 1B9

Telephone: 613-948-5200
Fax: 613-948-5195
Email: canmet-erd@nrcan.gc.ca
Web site: www.nrcan.gc.ca

I collectd this on-line at http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicati...-eng.html#P012 ,........I will call today to get the real deal from the boarder people. It does not state anyhitng about UN-primed cases though....I am still looking for that as I am sure there is a clause hidden away...lol

FS I am interested don't get me wrong,.....It seems that I might be going to edmonton soon enough because that is where i can find the best deal on the rifle so far,.....

Dean2 · #14 11-25-2009, 08:19 AM

How many times does it need to be posted. the problem is the US LAWS NOT THE CANADIAN LAWS. IT S ILLEGAL TO BRING MOST FIREARMS REALTED STUFF OUT OF THE US without the proper paper work, being an import permit from Canada, and export authorization form the appropriate US department, depending on exactly what is being exported.

You can go down and buy it and try to SMUGGLE it into Canada, and if you get to the Canadian Customs side you are safe. The US is now stopping selected vehicles exiting the US. How do ty know who to stop? The US gov is watcing sporting store's parking lots for Canadan plates, has sniffers on credit and debit card transactions and is paying snitch fees to people who turn in non-residents buying non-exportable products, and that is just a few of the measures in place.

If you get caught, impounding your stuff and maybe the vehicle is the least of your problems. Never being able to go back to the US again is a very real possibility as is jail if you happen to have some of te real wrong stuff like Gen 3 night vision gear. Do you really want to take those chances to save $40 on some brass???

Dick284 · #15 11-25-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KENWORTH

what makes it a crime is at cabelas in the u.s.,...has boxes of 20, norma percision brass for 62$ a box.

..being 40 min from the boarder, I might just have to make a trip. How hard is it to get empty brass across the line?....unless I can get it here reasonable

You will be breaking US export laws.
Do you really want to get on the wrong side of their Homeland Security department?

KENWORTH · #16 11-25-2009, 04:12 PM

ok,...I have now looked into it,....on the canadian side they don't care, the us side, well.....that is a story, It is NOT illegal to GET brass sent to you from the us,( DSP-5 forms from the state department ect ect ect...) but they make it a challange, I was even told it would be better to get a import/expot lic from them, that is what most people do to get it. You are right they are looking for it at the boarder,....I CANNOT,CANNOT,CANNOT belive it is the usa giving a person grief about firearms, and not the canadian side. This could be a first for me.

HASSLE,....is it worth it? I think not.

Dick284 · #17 11-25-2009, 06:18 PM

I was at P&D this afternoon, they had lots of Weatherby brass on hand.

Faststeel · #18 11-25-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick284

I was at P&D this afternoon, they had lots of Weatherby brass on hand.

I believe that their price is over $4.00 each plus tax, not sure that they have 30-378, I saw 338-378. FS

gatorr · #19 11-26-2009, 05:28 AM

Hey Kenworth if your 40 mins from the boarder go down and get it. I just got back from Great Falls and everything is cheap! I picked up .257 loaded ammo for $49 a box compered to $93 here. Found some hard to get large rifle magnum primers for $3.29. No sales tax. And for bringing it back into Canada no problems at all. I told him i had ammo and he didnt even ask to see it. I always go thru the Wildhorse crossing which is very small and quick.

Dick284 · #20 11-26-2009, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorr

Hey Kenworth if your 40 mins from the boarder go down and get it. I just got back from Great Falls and everything is cheap! I picked up .257 loaded ammo for $49 a box compered to $93 here. Found some hard to get large rifle magnum primers for $3.29. No sales tax. And for bringing it back into Canada no problems at all. I told him i had ammo and he didnt even ask to see it. I always go thru the Wildhorse crossing which is very small and quick.

You do know the US border folks do export checks don't you?

You got lucky.

It would be advisable to refrain from councelling others on doing illegal acts be it here or abroad.

gatorr · #21 11-26-2009, 08:33 AM

Got lucky? I wasnt breaking any laws bringing it back to Canada. I wasnt bringing anything back that was restricted so how was i lucky? I think you and Dean2 watch too much X files. They have people watching parking lots and snitches at the border? Wow you two sure are paranoid. Proof??

Bushrat · #22 11-26-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorr

Got lucky? I wasnt breaking any laws bringing it back to Canada. I wasnt bringing anything back that was restricted so how was i lucky? I think you and Dean2 watch too much X files. They have people watching parking lots and snitches at the border? Wow you two sure are paranoid. Proof??

You didn't break any Canadian laws, no problem there. The problem is you broke American laws, if you got caught on the US side with that stuff your in for a a world of trouble if you do not have the proper US paperwork for a foreigner to posess that stuff in their country.

gatorr · #23 11-26-2009, 09:16 AM

Really i guess i will have to look into it. So if iam breaking US laws by buying ammo was does Canadian customs allow me to bring it back? Iam going to do a search and see what the Us laws are as iam going back there soon.

Dean2 · #24 11-26-2009, 10:20 AM

Gator and the rest of you. This is from the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms site, FAQs section, and this is only one of the laws affecting Firearms related materials.

(R1) May nonimmigrant aliens legally in the United States purchase or possess firearms and ammunition while in the United States?

Nonimmigrant aliens generally are prohibited from possessing or receiving (purchasing) firearms and ammunition in the United States.

Q21. Why is the submission of a Form 6NIA for every importation now necessary?

A. After the events of September 11th, it was determined that national security and public safety required ATF to know when nonimmigrant aliens are bringing firearms and ammunition into the country and the numbers and types of firearms and ammunition they are bringing in. Moreover, because nonimmigrant aliens generally cannot possess firearms and ammunition in the United States, the permit process is necessary to ensure any nonimmigrant alien bringing firearms or ammunition into the country falls within an exception to the prohibition.

http://www.atf.gov/pub/fire-explo_pub/p5300_18.pdf

[18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(b) and 922(y), 27 CFR 478.124, ATF Rul. 2004-1]

The link provides VERY CLEAR direction on purchase and export of firearms and ammo. With the US paranoia after 9-11, if you think they are kidding you don't know them very well. Ignore it at your peril.

Dick284 · #25 11-26-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorr

Really i guess i will have to look into it. So if iam breaking US laws by buying ammo was does Canadian customs allow me to bring it back? Iam going to do a search and see what the Us laws are as iam going back there soon.

Canadain Customs cares not about the US export restrictions, it's not their place to inform you of US laws, heck many of the CBSA folks have trouble staying abreast of the Canadian laws and procedures, let alone worrying about US stuff.

gatorr · #26 11-26-2009, 11:58 AM

My apoligies to both dick284 and dean2. I did some research on the ATF website and you are both correct about purchasing ammo. The loophole is if you have a valid state hunting license you can purchase ammo while in that state. I did have a Montana antelope license so myself personally i did not break any US laws.

The cooter · #27 11-26-2009, 01:52 PM

Dean2, You seem to like your cloake and dagger stuff, Sniffers? checking debit and credit cards? Do you know how long that takes to check? Or maybe your just one of these guys who knows who killed J.F.K? Have you ever been to the states to buy ammo while hunting or other wise they have always treated me fair and with respect. Never had issues with U.S customs and i've always been straight with them.

KENWORTH · #28 11-26-2009, 02:38 PM

according to a couple of friends of mine,...as well,...alot of places are not willing to sell you anything with a canadian visa number because they know it's illegal as well and don't want the headaches from home land security. The boarder guy's I spoke to in coutts told me they are watching for it hard. The latest thing I guess is to random check you about 1/4 of a mile befor the actuall boarder, confinscate the stuff you are not suppost to have and escort you home,...

A friend I spoke with just recently got 7000 rounds of 9mm through,...the canadian side congratulated him, and could not belive it,....he told them the cost out weightd the risk of getting in trouble......lol! he payed his duty and taxes and giggled all the way home......I guess for some people it's worth it, just not for me.....I'll be canadian and quietly take it in the !@$.....

gatorr · #29 11-26-2009, 04:12 PM

Agreed about the ammo not worth the risk.

crawfy · #30 11-27-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorr

My apoligies to both dick284 and dean2. I did some research on the ATF website and you are both correct about purchasing ammo. The loophole is if you have a valid state hunting license you can purchase ammo while in that state. I did have a Montana antelope license so myself personally i did not break any US laws.

Thats the kicker just need a state hunting licence, we came back from a hunt in South Dakota and no problems bring our ammo back that we purchased there.