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05-26-2017, 07:55 AM
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Common Core as an initiative does not exist in Canada. There are some similarities in the math programs of some provinces. Why is that hard for you to process?
There are some similarities in how the Canadian and US governments are run too but we do not have a president or a congress or a senate. Despite similarities we do not have a US style of government.
Despite some similarities, we do not have Common Core curriculum in Canada.
We do have a math curriculum that was presented in a manner that encouraged teachers to use discovery methodology to deliver it. Nothing wrong with that but it should not be the only tool in the shed and non-math math teachers in general didn't get that. Mathy math teachers always used some form of discovery learning as a support to help the kids who had difficulty -- they knew that not everyone can learn math the same way as everyone else.
You want to see math scores improve across the country? Make sure all math is taught by people with a math background. That means a math and/or science degree or an education degree that specialized in math instruction. Most elementary educators don't need Math 30-1 to get into their programs and most (not all) really weren't great math students themselves yet we force them to teach a subject that is essentially it's own language.
You wouldn't have the proper pronunciation of words being taught by a person with a speech impediment yet we expect math to be taught by people who "can't math".
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smear that pig all over with lipstick, but its still a pig skippy! why do you have such a hard time processing truth? pull your head out of your colon and come enjoy some fresh air!
first you claimed it didnt exist here at all, now you admit it does a little but its not the soul initiative? anyway im out so you carry on with your band of merry men spewing your falsehoods. enjoy your weekend girls.
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05-26-2017, 08:13 AM
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smear that pig all over with lipstick, but its still a pig skippy! why do you have such a hard time processing truth? pull your head out of your colon and come enjoy some fresh air!
first you claimed it didnt exist here at all, now you admit it does a little but its not the soul initiative? anyway im out so you carry on with your band of merry men spewing your falsehoods. enjoy your weekend girls.
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English not your first language, or did you skip those lessons? The rest of us know that sentences start with a Captial letter. The rest of us know how to use an apostrophe when writing contractions. The rest of us know the difference between 'soul' and 'sole'.
All of that is only as a consequence of reading this post of yours. I'm sure many here could recommend some remedial education, but you would have to want to learn. Do you?
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05-26-2017, 08:43 AM
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smear that pig all over with lipstick, but its still a pig skippy! why do you have such a hard time processing truth? pull your head out of your colon and come enjoy some fresh air!
first you claimed it didnt exist here at all, now you admit it does a little but its not the soul initiative? anyway im out so you carry on with your band of merry men spewing your falsehoods. enjoy your weekend girls.
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Not sure why you opened with a description of your preferred dating habits but you have a good weekend too!
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05-26-2017, 09:12 AM
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We've jumped into technology with both feet in the last 20 years, we need to back out of it. Lots of this generation can't think anymore, can't reason, can't analyse. It's worrysome. Without autocorrect, I swear people can't spell anymore. Technology can do everything for you, there's an app for everything - how is that helping?
We need to get back to the basics.
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Just How the Powers to be, wants the Human Race to evolve. " Controlled".
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05-26-2017, 09:12 AM
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English not your first language, or did you skip those lessons? The rest of us know that sentences start with a Captial letter. The rest of us know how to use an apostrophe when writing contractions. The rest of us know the difference between 'soul' and 'sole'.
All of that is only as a consequence of reading this post of yours. I'm sure many here could recommend some remedial education, but you would have to want to learn. Do you?
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chime the grammar police again. Thats always the break glass in case of emergency isnt it alta? are you going to add anything of substance, or just babble on about spelling or capital letters? takes all kinds i suppose. you have a great day there spanky.
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05-26-2017, 09:13 AM
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Oh he probably went to University and thinks he's smarter than the rest of us.
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05-26-2017, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Olthreelegs
smear that pig all over with lipstick, but its still a pig skippy! why do you have such a hard time processing truth? pull your head out of your colon and come enjoy some fresh air!
first you claimed it didnt exist here at all, now you admit it does a little but its not the soul initiative? anyway im out so you carry on with your band of merry men spewing your falsehoods. enjoy your weekend girls.
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For sure this piece of work is someone who was recently banned. Been so many characters banned lately that it's hard to put a finger on who he really is. The only other possibility is that he has a few usernames to hedge his bets, which also seems pretty common lately. Oh well, he keeps us entertained.
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05-26-2017, 09:33 AM
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Oh he probably went to University and thinks he's smarter than the rest of us.
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Considering the bashing that is going on about education, and then not using proper sentence structure or grammar, is the height of hypocrisy. Most grade 3 students know better.
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05-26-2017, 09:55 AM
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Considering the bashing that is going on about education, and then not using proper sentence structure or grammar, is the height of hypocrisy. Most grade 3 students know better.
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Being able to use EXACTLY PROPER sentence structure and grammer does not mean one is smarter, just means one has been better educated in English.
There are many people out there that can wax eloquently until the cows come home, but in practical life are dumb as a post.
Most are university educated too.
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05-26-2017, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fargineyesore
Being able to use EXACTLY PROPER sentence structure and grammer does not mean one is smarter, just means one has been better educated in English.
There are many people out there that can wax eloquently until the cows come home, but in practical life are dumb as a post.
Most are university educated too.
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Which cohort do you fall into?
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05-26-2017, 10:16 AM
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Which cohort do you fall into?
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Well I'm not University Educated, just College, but I will admit sometimes I can be pretty dumb.
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05-26-2017, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fargineyesore
Being able to use EXACTLY PROPER sentence structure and grammer does not mean one is smarter, just means one has been better educated in English.
There are many people out there that can wax eloquently until the cows come home, but in practical life are dumb as a post.
Most are university educated too.
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Then there are those that can do both. Most of them are university educated too.
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05-26-2017, 10:21 AM
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Agreed.
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05-26-2017, 11:02 AM
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Grammar Police
I usually cut people slack with grammar on forums. Spell check, word suggestion, small phones, and fat fingers are a bad combo.
But, I agree it does seem kind of idiotic in this case.
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05-26-2017, 11:07 AM
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Olthreelegs is trolling. Real hard.
For a change of pace.
Accepted linemanpete's challenge. Used my best cursive. Teach was out of gold stars.
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05-26-2017, 11:19 AM
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Chime the name caling and bellitling. Thats always the break glass in case of emergency isnt it Olthreeleg? Are you going to add anything of substance, or just babble on about fake facts that you claim prove your point but say nothing about common core in Canada? Takes all kinds i suppose. You have a great day there Olthreelegs.
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Fixed it just for you
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05-26-2017, 12:32 PM
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Olthreelegs is trolling. Real hard.
For a change of pace.
Accepted linemanpete's challenge. Used my best cursive. Teach was out of gold stars.
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Proof we still teach long division!!
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05-28-2017, 11:53 AM
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Reading, writing and arithmetic ...all the rest is hogwash.
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05-28-2017, 12:00 PM
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This thread is very revealing.
And incredibly enjoyable.
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05-28-2017, 10:57 PM
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Reading, writing and arithmetic ...all the rest is hogwash.
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Yeah, that history and science stuff, who needs it anyhow right
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05-30-2017, 08:33 AM
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Similar in some ways. The real problem with math everywhere is the belief that it can be effectively taught by non math people. Showing kids different methods of solving problems is not a problem. However, it should be specialists that teach it from at least grade 5 and up - people who have proven they really understand numbers and how they work.
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In the test evaluation course, it was pointed out that ALL math teachers should be positive about the subject as children pick up the undertones very well. A show of hands for elementary teachers with math hate was very eye opening. Either we need dedicated math/science teachers from a young age or we need some way to get attitudes up in most cases.
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05-30-2017, 08:56 AM
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Yeah, that history and science stuff, who needs it anyhow right
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History books are tainted...science is cool too, forgot about that.
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05-30-2017, 07:14 PM
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Never mind Social Studies, what about Math
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05-30-2017, 07:23 PM
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Reading, writing and arithmetic ...all the rest is hogwash.
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Formerly known as the three Rs ... until people found out that writing and arithmetic do not start with an R.
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