heads for grouse?

[chuck-the-chimp]

Just pulled the trigger on buying my first bow.
Any thoughts on the best heads for grouse?
Presumably should put these on cheap arrows....

[catnthehat]

I always liked flu flus and field points
Cat

[3blade]

G5 SGH. Rips the grouse head right off and catches in grass/bush. If you use any pointed arrow head, chances are the arrow will disappear and the grouse will fly off and not be recovered.

[chuck-the-chimp]

Originally Posted by 3blade

G5 SGH. Rips the grouse head right off and catches in grass/bush. If you use any pointed arrow head, chances are the arrow will disappear and the grouse will fly off and not be recovered.

What about judo or the wire loop ones?

[bowhunter9841]

I have killed them with regular arrows and broadheads, or with field points. Some are dead right there, and some you have to follow into the bush, and finish them off. But you must be prepared to lose a few arrows if you plan to hunt them that way. Way cheaper to hunt grouse with a shotgun, if you already have one that is.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Judo tips....rarely if ever do you lose an arrow.

LC

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Judo tips....rarely if ever do you lose an arrow.

LC

X2. Nothing like some delicious road chicken to add to a freeze dried meal. Mmmmmm.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by 3blade

G5 SGH. Rips the grouse head right off and catches in grass/bush. If you use any pointed arrow head, chances are the arrow will disappear and the grouse will fly off and not be recovered.

The trick is to figure Out the glighg path of the arrow .
With the flu flus I rarely lost any arrows.
But then, my arrows are only coming out at about 180FPS
Cat

[Pdub]

I've been using something like these with a pretty good success rate.

http://www.lancasterarchery.com/arro...nt-points.html

Doesn't chew up/shred meat that the SGH points are inclined to do...I haven't used the judo points, but they look pretty good. I may give those a try when/if I lose the blunts.

[The moose]

Judos with lumenoks. Works like a charm.

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Judo tips....rarely if ever do you lose an arrow.

LC

Except for that time I was absolutely for sure I was going to get that grouse sitting on that branch. (yes...I missed first shot on the ground)

[SportHuntingHelp]

G5 SGH for me.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Head shots only.



LC

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

The G5 SGH are neat but very brittle and still ricochet or skip long distances...and for the price of them you can buy a half dozen Judos...
the Judos been around for 40 years...why because you cant lose em...lol

Neil

[dbllung]

I like the wire loops. They are slow and noisy but they do a good job without busting up the meat badly. I aim a little high and the wire loop generally just clips the head off

[Lornce]

Flu Flu's and Judos for me. Have a loop wire head that I use occasionally.

[winger7mm]

Judo tip here. I have a couple arrows with me while elk hunting that I use to collect some supper or lunch or just a snack lol. So far iv only managed to get a dusky (which btw are delish!)

[petew]

Fluflu's and a good old 2 blade broadhead for me. They don't fly away with the arrow or get bruised to death.

[calgarychef]

A broadhead works well with a traditional bow if it's not drawn back all the way. It doesn't go far after the shot but zips through birds nicely. Judo's can't be beat
Either.

I've used a dead small spruce sapling, stripped of branches it was 3/4 of an inch on the foreward end and I used a trimmed off branch to nock on the string. With the weight foreward design it flew quite nicely out to 15 yards and when it got lost I only had to shrug my shoulders and move on.

[muzzy]

Wire loops are called snaro's and I also like judo points. Had a guy make me some He took regular field points drilled small holes and put two 2 inch maybe 1/8th inch thick wire thru and believe glued or soudered it. worked great

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

Originally Posted by petew

Fluflu's and a good old 2 blade broadhead for me. They don't fly away with the arrow or get bruised to death.

In 40 years never had a bird fly away with Judo point...maybe couple feet but that's it...
I always carry Judo point on same arrow as hunting, It flys much the same as a broadhead...I "stump shoot" a lot...

I use the Judo for shooting out of stand just before getting down, and shoot all the way back to camp mid day...leaf here, dirt mound there, close up...way out there...

Birds I aim high head or throat...never any bruising,

As temping as it is never shoot birds in trees , only on ground...of course learned the hard way...

Taken every small game up to and including fox and Coyote with the Judo...

my bow never leaves home without one in quiver and one in pack...



Neil

[Lornce]

Originally Posted by L.O.S.T.Arrow

In 40 years never had a bird fly away with Judo point...maybe couple feet but that's it...
I always carry Judo point on same arrow as hunting, It flys much the same as a broadhead...I "stump shoot" a lot...

Neil

Cool I wonder how many other people still Stump shoot. Just to add, in the old days we made small game heads by using an empty shell casing for the head, drilled a couple of holes crosswise and tapped in a couple of finishing nails to make a judo point. Also you can punch a hole in the centre of a tin beer bottle cap and insert it between a bullet point or field point and your arrow for another nice small game head. have also used a wing nut and a screw that fit the arrow bushing. Toyed with building looped heads using electric grass trimer plastic cord to make clover leaf heads.

[L.O.S.T.Arrow]

Originally Posted by Lornce

Cool I wonder how many other people still Stump shoot. Just to add, in the old days we made small game heads by using an empty shell casing for the head, drilled a couple of holes crosswise and tapped in a couple of finishing nails to make a judo point. Also you can punch a hole in the centre of a tin beer bottle cap and insert it between a bullet point or field point and your arrow for another nice small game head. have also used a wing nut and a screw that fit the arrow bushing. Toyed with building looped heads using electric grass trimer plastic cord to make clover leaf heads.

Yup I think I took more ruffys, spuce hens and rabbits with a homemade poplar survival style bow as a youngster than I have in 40 years plus of modern bows

Red osier dogwood arrows...peeled and straightened by hand...broadhead was old 30-30 shell casings found everywhere...punch out fired primer insert spike or nail...flatten with rocks..sharpen on sandstone...

Heres a pic I still use in my wilderness survival courses




Neil

[gs100bert]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Judo tips....rarely if ever do you lose an arrow.

LC

x3 killed a lot of grouse with these very rarely do you lose one also watch your back drop to see if you can anchor your arrow in something behind the bird otherwise kiss your arrow good by.

[SportHuntingHelp]

I use SGH and have head no issue's. Love to stump shoot for the simple reason of shooting at unknown distances and different positions. The unknown distances has greatly improved my estimation of distances that being said come hunting season I have a range finder with me at all times.

[backyard]

snaro are quite different

[chuck-the-chimp]

Originally Posted by The moose

Judos with lumenoks. Works like a charm.

So, that's exactly what I did.

Thought I'd be clever and test out flight paths by shooting empty empty water bottles. Turns out not a good idea. I now have two busted arrows and two fewer judo tips.

What sorts of targets can you safely shoot with judos and not wreck arrows?

On that topic, anyone who finds two judos attached to 4 inches of gold tip arrows at SPFGA: Merry Christmas. Don't say I never get you anything.

[gs100bert]

i shoot rotten stumps and logs ,cow pies in farmers fields and stuff like that good practice at ranging as well