A third of Canadians don't believe in man-made climate change

[Newview01]

Good to see that percentage is growing.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4603824

Nearly a third of Canadians don't believe humans, industry 'mostly' cause climate change: poll
Without B.C.’s carbon tax, emissions would be five to 15 per cent higher than they are right now'

[jungleboy]

I suspect that the number is much higher in private. Many are afraid to speak out , the radical left wingnuts agenda that the Suzuki ites put forward where they would like to see the non believers actually jailed as heretics against this new world religion. We are seeing a new dark ages for humanity with this climate change hoax where stupid politicians actually believe their own lie ,that it can all be reversed if we just tax it enough.


It's the same thought process that tells them they can eliminate gun crime by restricting law abiding gun owners.

[bat119]

The earth has been changing for thousands of years some politicians use the weather or hysteria for votes, even if peoplekind is causing the problem we will have to deal with as it comes.

[bobtodrick]

Recent studies have shown that the last ice age (which lasted 13000) years took only a year to happen...to totally encase Europe and most of North America in ice.
Drastic changes have happened to the planet before, and will again. In some way humanity will survive.

[Smokinyotes]

Look at it it outside. It’s April. This global warming is terrible. I can remember as a kid going waterskiing on April 20, most lakes I think you can still drive on if you don’t get stuck in all the snow.

[glen moa]

Crazy to tax us when other countries on the same planet are doing thousand times worse.

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by glen moa

Crazy to tax us when other countries on the same planet are doing thousand times worse.

And that is how well the indoctrination system they have works. People are all over it.

[airbornedeerhunter]

Global warming is a myth much like the sasquatch, centaur or ogo pogo. Only difference is that this myth is a tool used by the loons on the left to tax the bejeezus out of the country. At the risk of politicizing it, our climate change/global warming propaganda minister Catherine McKenna, this past Sunday said she has "no time" for anyone who disagrees with her or who questions her policies and agenda with regard to global warming and making Canadians pay for something that doesn't exist.

[RavYak]

Originally Posted by Newview01

Good to see that percentage is growing.

Good to see? I would say it is disappointing to see...

Not surprising though. Most people haven't travelled and seen the disgusting mess humans are making to our planet, most of which has occurred in a very short period of time(we are talking decades). Go check out China, India, South East Asia and other parts of the world and try to tell me that our rampant pollution should be having no effect on the planet... We already know that natural events such as cloud cover, ash from volcanoes etc has an effect on the climate, how can anyone not realize that smog would have similar effects?

Yes we are having a far colder then normal winter/spring here in Alberta but this is a localized phenomenon, meanwhile the arctic has had one of its warmest winters in decades... Warm enough that some areas did not even freeze over this year. Ice that is literally thousands of years old is melting meaning the earth is warmer then it has been in thousands of years...

Sitting around with your head buried in the sand is not a good thing... Fighting climate reform is not a good thing... Some of these changes are likely natural changes but there is significant evidence to support that we are having an effect. How can you argue with information like this that shows a rapid change in the earths temperature over the past 50 years(a very short time period when talking about the earth)? Remember natural changes take hundreds and thousands of year to occur(unless there is something significant to trigger a change such as huge volcano eruption, earthquakes, meteor strike etc, none of which have occurred during this time period).

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs...l-temperature/

The earth has been around for a long time and we know the earth undergoes significant climate changes naturally. It is possible that we are currently undergoing a period of natural change right now but it is also ridiculous to suggest that we are not having any effect. It is also extremely careless to ignore our effects and not try to minimize our traces.

I don't think anyone on here would disagree that man affects nature. That our forestry, development and destruction hasn't affected our hunting, fishing etc. How can any of you ignore that those same things do not also affect the world on a whole(especially considering we have some of the least impact on environment out of all the countries in the world).

To me arguing that man doesn't have any influence on climate change is like claiming the earth is flat. The amount of oxygen we consume and CO2 that we emit by breathing alone significantly affects the planet especially with our ever increasing population, let alone all the other effects we have with our waste and pollution.

[RavYak]

That said much of what goes on regarding climate change is ridiculous. Carbon taxes, political agendas etc...

That is a whole different discussion though.

Accepting that climate change is affected by mankind is one thing, figuring out how to deal with that reality it is something very different.

[wags]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

I suspect that the number is much higher in private. Many are afraid to speak out , the radical left wingnuts agenda that the Suzuki ites put forward where they would like to see the non believers actually jailed as heretics against this new world religion. We are seeing a new dark ages for humanity with this climate change hoax where stupid politicians actually believe their own lie ,that it can all be reversed if we just tax it enough.


It's the same thought process that tells them they can eliminate gun crime by restricting law abiding gun owners.

Pretty amazing how you can get such a massive majority of the scientific world to all align on the same 'radical left wingnut agenda'.

Either nearly every scientist is a radical left wingnut, or the radical left wingnuts with an agenda are very persuasive to get all these scientists on board!

And then for the right to suddenly be afraid to speak out! Never thought I'd see that day!

[airbornedeerhunter]

Originally Posted by RavYak

Good to see? I would say it is disappointing to see...

Not surprising though. Most people haven't travelled and seen the disgusting mess humans are making to our planet, most of which has occurred in a very short period of time(we are talking decades). Go check out China, India, South East Asia and other parts of the world and try to tell me that our rampant pollution should be having no effect on the planet... We already know that natural events such as cloud cover, ash from volcanoes etc has an effect on the climate, how can anyone not realize that smog would have similar effects?

Yes we are having a far colder then normal winter/spring here in Alberta but this is a localized phenomenon, meanwhile the arctic has had one of its warmest winters in decades... Warm enough that some areas did not even freeze over this year. Ice that is literally thousands of years old is melting meaning the earth is warmer then it has been in thousands of years...

Sitting around with your head buried in the sand is not a good thing... Fighting climate reform is not a good thing... Some of these changes are likely natural changes but there is significant evidence to support that we are having an effect. How can you argue with information like this that shows a rapid change in the earths temperature over the past 50 years(a very short time period when talking about the earth)? Remember natural changes take hundreds and thousands of year to occur(unless there is something significant to trigger a change such as huge volcano eruption, earthquakes, meteor strike etc, none of which have occurred during this time period).

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs...l-temperature/

The earth has been around for a long time and we know the earth undergoes significant climate changes naturally. It is possible that we are currently undergoing a period of natural change right now but it is also ridiculous to suggest that we are not having any effect. It is also extremely careless to ignore our effects and not try to minimize our traces.

I don't think anyone on here would disagree that man affects nature. That our forestry, development and destruction hasn't affected our hunting, fishing etc. How can any of you ignore that those same things do not also affect the world on a whole(especially considering we have some of the least impact on environment out of all the countries in the world).

To me arguing that man doesn't have any influence on climate change is like claiming the earth is flat. The amount of oxygen we consume and CO2 that we emit by breathing alone significantly affects the planet especially with our ever increasing population, let alone all the other effects we have with our waste and pollution.

Climate change is the greatest fraud perpetrated on mankind in our lifetime, there is no such thing. 40 years ago, large groups of scientists and political liberal elites declared the earth was actually cooling and we were potentially headed for a new ice age within a century, their solution was increased government control of the economy, industry and energy sectors. Unfortunately for them, the data disproved it, they had to re-cock. Their new theory was global warming and funny enough their solution was the same as their solution for their now de-bunked theory of global cooling. Again, unfortunately for them the actual scientific data did not support their theory so they again re-cocked. The new term is climate change- perfect, a term that it is impossible to disprove. A colder than average winter-climate change, a milder winter-climate change. Dryer or wetter than average-climate change. It can't be refuted and that finally suits their agenda and their solution is the same massive government control of the energy sector, increased taxes etc as it was for their de-bunked theories of global cooling and global warming. How many times have you heard some idiot on the news talking about the fact that it's 10 deg C in Feb on any given day so that must be global warming, never mind the fact that the record high for that particular day was 17 deg C a century ago.

Take today for example, -11 here in Morinville, the record high was +20.6 deg C in 1889. Now if today had been +20.6, these same dolts would be screaming about global warming not knowing that 129 years ago it was +20 was it global warming then? This is a scam and the masses have fallen for it and we're all going to pay through the nose for a lie.

You mention the sad state in other countries that are the worlds worst polluters. Canada produces less than 2% of global emissions and is essentially already carbon neutral so why are Canadians being penalized by carbon taxes and other sanctions against us for "global warming"?

It's a tax, a cash grab, a way to fill government coffers- end of story.

[Looper]

Originally Posted by RavYak

Good to see? I would say it is disappointing to see...

Not surprising though. Most people haven't travelled and seen the disgusting mess humans are making to our planet, most of which has occurred in a very short period of time(we are talking decades). Go check out China, India, South East Asia and other parts of the world and try to tell me that our rampant pollution should be having no effect on the planet... We already know that natural events such as cloud cover, ash from volcanoes etc has an effect on the climate, how can anyone not realize that smog would have similar effects?

Yes we are having a far colder then normal winter/spring here in Alberta but this is a localized phenomenon, meanwhile the arctic has had one of its warmest winters in decades... Warm enough that some areas did not even freeze over this year. Ice that is literally thousands of years old is melting meaning the earth is warmer then it has been in thousands of years...

Sitting around with your head buried in the sand is not a good thing... Fighting climate reform is not a good thing... Some of these changes are likely natural changes but there is significant evidence to support that we are having an effect. How can you argue with information like this that shows a rapid change in the earths temperature over the past 50 years(a very short time period when talking about the earth)? Remember natural changes take hundreds and thousands of year to occur(unless there is something significant to trigger a change such as huge volcano eruption, earthquakes, meteor strike etc, none of which have occurred during this time period).

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs...l-temperature/

The earth has been around for a long time and we know the earth undergoes significant climate changes naturally. It is possible that we are currently undergoing a period of natural change right now but it is also ridiculous to suggest that we are not having any effect. It is also extremely careless to ignore our effects and not try to minimize our traces.

I don't think anyone on here would disagree that man affects nature. That our forestry, development and destruction hasn't affected our hunting, fishing etc. How can any of you ignore that those same things do not also affect the world on a whole(especially considering we have some of the least impact on environment out of all the countries in the world).

To me arguing that man doesn't have any influence on climate change is like claiming the earth is flat. The amount of oxygen we consume and CO2 that we emit by breathing alone significantly affects the planet especially with our ever increasing population, let alone all the other effects we have with our waste and pollution.

Breathing??? Really?

You realize if every human on the planet was standing on a square meter it wouldn't cover Vancouver Island.

Looper

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by RavYak

Good to see? I would say it is disappointing to see...

Not surprising though. Most people haven't travelled and seen the disgusting mess humans are making to our planet, most of which has occurred in a very short period of time(we are talking decades). Go check out China, India, South East Asia and other parts of the world and try to tell me that our rampant pollution should be having no effect on the planet... We already know that natural events such as cloud cover, ash from volcanoes etc has an effect on the climate, how can anyone not realize that smog would have similar effects?

Yes we are having a far colder then normal winter/spring here in Alberta but this is a localized phenomenon, meanwhile the arctic has had one of its warmest winters in decades... Warm enough that some areas did not even freeze over this year. Ice that is literally thousands of years old is melting meaning the earth is warmer then it has been in thousands of years...

Sitting around with your head buried in the sand is not a good thing... Fighting climate reform is not a good thing... Some of these changes are likely natural changes but there is significant evidence to support that we are having an effect. How can you argue with information like this that shows a rapid change in the earths temperature over the past 50 years(a very short time period when talking about the earth)? Remember natural changes take hundreds and thousands of year to occur(unless there is something significant to trigger a change such as huge volcano eruption, earthquakes, meteor strike etc, none of which have occurred during this time period).

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs...l-temperature/

The earth has been around for a long time and we know the earth undergoes significant climate changes naturally. It is possible that we are currently undergoing a period of natural change right now but it is also ridiculous to suggest that we are not having any effect. It is also extremely careless to ignore our effects and not try to minimize our traces.

I don't think anyone on here would disagree that man affects nature. That our forestry, development and destruction hasn't affected our hunting, fishing etc. How can any of you ignore that those same things do not also affect the world on a whole(especially considering we have some of the least impact on environment out of all the countries in the world).

To me arguing that man doesn't have any influence on climate change is like claiming the earth is flat. The amount of oxygen we consume and CO2 that we emit by breathing alone significantly affects the planet especially with our ever increasing population, let alone all the other effects we have with our waste and pollution.

That fact that you believe this would lead me to throw everything else you have said out the window.

Did the herds of bison (or any other plentiful wildlife, anywhere on the planet) as far as the eye could see not emit any methane or CO2?

[bat119]

A breathing tax ?

That will be the next plan to save the planet, a million years from now the earth will still be here the human lice might not be.

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by wags

Pretty amazing how you can get such a massive majority of the scientific world to all align on the same 'radical left wingnut agenda'.

Either nearly every scientist is a radical left wingnut, or the radical left wingnuts with an agenda are very persuasive to get all these scientists on board!

And then for the right to suddenly be afraid to speak out! Never thought I'd see that day!

Well congrats, the day has come. Plenty of science on the other end of the spectrum but the Left and the sheeple are having none of it ... Baaaa

[wags]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Well congrats, the day has come. Plenty of science on the other end of the spectrum but the Left and the sheeple are having none of it ... Baaaa

"massive majority of the scientific world"

[SlimChance]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Well congrats, the day has come. Plenty of science on the other end of the spectrum but the Left and the sheeple are having none of it ... Baaaa

There isn't though. Making sheep noises doesn't change facts.

The "97% consensus" that gets tossed around doesn't mean that 97% of scientists have the same personal opinions. It means that 97% of independent, peer reviewed papers reach the same conclusions.

A 2016 review found about 222,000 total papers relevant to climate science. That would mean that about 216,000 are in broad agreement on major points.

Even the dissenting papers are often not as dissenting as media outlets claim. Breitbart published an article in 2017 on 58 papers disputing anthropogenic climate change, only to have the authors of those papers dispute that interpretation.

[Albertadiver]

Well, at least a third of us are still hanging in there!

[muledriver]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

I suspect that the number is much higher in private. Many are afraid to speak out , the radical left wingnuts agenda that the Suzuki ites put forward where they would like to see the non believers actually jailed as heretics against this new world religion. We are seeing a new dark ages for humanity with this climate change hoax where stupid politicians actually believe their own lie ,that it can all be reversed if we just tax it enough.


It's the same thought process that tells them they can eliminate gun crime by restricting law abiding gun owners.

Why would accepting what the sciences say about climate change have anything to do with one's political perspectives?

[Chuck_Wagon]

The climate change fraud is the biggest money scam ever perpetrated, it makes Enron & Bernie Madoff look like school children stealing lunch money.

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by wags

"massive majority of the scientific world receive funding to toe the man made climate change line"

Fixed it for you.

[35 whelen]

Originally Posted by RavYak

Good to see? I would say it is disappointing to see...

Not surprising though. Most people haven't travelled and seen the disgusting mess humans are making to our planet, most of which has occurred in a very short period of time(we are talking decades). Go check out China, India, South East Asia and other parts of the world and try to tell me that our rampant pollution should be having no effect on the planet... We already know that natural events such as cloud cover, ash from volcanoes etc has an effect on the climate, how can anyone not realize that smog would have similar effects?

Yes we are having a far colder then normal winter/spring here in Alberta but this is a localized phenomenon, meanwhile the arctic has had one of its warmest winters in decades... Warm enough that some areas did not even freeze over this year. Ice that is literally thousands of years old is melting meaning the earth is warmer then it has been in thousands of years...

Sitting around with your head buried in the sand is not a good thing... Fighting climate reform is not a good thing... Some of these changes are likely natural changes but there is significant evidence to support that we are having an effect. How can you argue with information like this that shows a rapid change in the earths temperature over the past 50 years(a very short time period when talking about the earth)? Remember natural changes take hundreds and thousands of year to occur(unless there is something significant to trigger a change such as huge volcano eruption, earthquakes, meteor strike etc, none of which have occurred during this time period).

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs...l-temperature/

The earth has been around for a long time and we know the earth undergoes significant climate changes naturally. It is possible that we are currently undergoing a period of natural change right now but it is also ridiculous to suggest that we are not having any effect. It is also extremely careless to ignore our effects and not try to minimize our traces.

I don't think anyone on here would disagree that man affects nature. That our forestry, development and destruction hasn't affected our hunting, fishing etc. How can any of you ignore that those same things do not also affect the world on a whole(especially considering we have some of the least impact on environment out of all the countries in the world).

To me arguing that man doesn't have any influence on climate change is like claiming the earth is flat. The amount of oxygen we consume and CO2 that we emit by breathing alone significantly affects the planet especially with our ever increasing population, let alone all the other effects we have with our waste and pollution.

I agree with almost all of this most people haven't seen the damage up-north in the high Arctic ,in other countries , I've covered most of Alberta north to south east to west just look what we're doing to this province it's a shame,

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[jungleboy]

Don't misunderstand me, I am not saying there is not climate change , I am sure that it is true. I just find it laughable that people buy into the arrogant idea that we as humans can change that ,let alone through some ridiculous tax scheme ,or even better, by buying and selling some phony carbon credits, that allow one industry to pollute and another industry to pay them to do it. It fixes nothing yet the politicians all sit back smile and say "we have taken action on climate change" ... huzzah.

[gtr]

A third of Canadians don't believe in man made climate change.
Really. More than two thirds of Canadians voted for Justin Trudeau in the last federal election. How is that working for you.. Safety in numbers doesn't always work!

[58thecat]

Yup....tax this....insert a trudeau finger....

[Drewski Canuck]

You can just hear the hamster wheels in the tax collector's head spinning.

"So basically, to eliminate the Carbon emissions, we just have to increase the Carbon Tax by 20 TIMES!!!! Who would object to something so reasonable!!!!!"

Now when I nod my head, you HIT IT!

Drewski

[trophybook]

Originally Posted by 35 whelen

I agree with almost all of this most people haven't seen the damage up-north in the high Arctic ,in other countries , I've covered most of Alberta north to south east to west just look what we're doing to this province it's a shame,

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What damage in the Arctic? I Work up there lots only thing I've seen change is the amount of polar bears and the formation of more ice. From Yellowknife to reindeer station.
Excluding the old gold mine in Yellowknife that's leaking arsenic.

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by trophybook

What damage in the Arctic? I Work up there lots only thing I've seen change is the amount of polar bears and the formation of more ice. From Yellowknife to reindeer station.
Excluding the old gold mine in Yellowknife that's leaking arsenic.

More polar bears or less?

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by RavYak

Good to see? I would say it is disappointing to see...

Not surprising though. Most people haven't travelled and seen the disgusting mess humans are making to our planet, most of which has occurred in a very short period of time(we are talking decades). Go check out China, India, South East Asia and other parts of the world and try to tell me that our rampant pollution should be having no effect on the planet... We already know that natural events such as cloud cover, ash from volcanoes etc has an effect on the climate, how can anyone not realize that smog would have similar effects?

Yes we are having a far colder then normal winter/spring here in Alberta but this is a localized phenomenon, meanwhile the arctic has had one of its warmest winters in decades... Warm enough that some areas did not even freeze over this year. Ice that is literally thousands of years old is melting meaning the earth is warmer then it has been in thousands of years...

Sitting around with your head buried in the sand is not a good thing... Fighting climate reform is not a good thing... Some of these changes are likely natural changes but there is significant evidence to support that we are having an effect. How can you argue with information like this that shows a rapid change in the earths temperature over the past 50 years(a very short time period when talking about the earth)? Remember natural changes take hundreds and thousands of year to occur(unless there is something significant to trigger a change such as huge volcano eruption, earthquakes, meteor strike etc, none of which have occurred during this time period).

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs...l-temperature/

The earth has been around for a long time and we know the earth undergoes significant climate changes naturally. It is possible that we are currently undergoing a period of natural change right now but it is also ridiculous to suggest that we are not having any effect. It is also extremely careless to ignore our effects and not try to minimize our traces.

I don't think anyone on here would disagree that man affects nature. That our forestry, development and destruction hasn't affected our hunting, fishing etc. How can any of you ignore that those same things do not also affect the world on a whole(especially considering we have some of the least impact on environment out of all the countries in the world).

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Well said Rav and I have to pretty much agree with you.