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07-02-2014, 05:13 PM
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'some' BC highways going to 120 kph max speed
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...km-h-1.2694277
likely will be zero tolerance. Think Alberta will follow suit?
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07-02-2014, 05:19 PM
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It wouldn't be a bad idea. It'll bring out highways up to the same speeds as the interstates in the US.
The vast majority of people are already doing that speed anyhow.
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07-02-2014, 05:24 PM
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Don't think it would make much difference in Alberta.
Most folks are already going 125+ on the QE2 and Hwy 16 already.
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07-02-2014, 05:26 PM
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Well this is interesting. Don't they know that speed kills?
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07-02-2014, 05:28 PM
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Well this is interesting. Don't they know that speed kills?
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No it doesn't.
The sudden stop is what causes internal injury, amputation, decapitation....
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07-02-2014, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckhead
Don't think it would make much difference in Alberta.
Most folks are already going 125+ on the QE2 and Hwy 16 already.
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Its a great idea if certification is brought up to the same level . Sitting your road test in didsbury I suggest is not up to training drivers to 120km highway driving imo .
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07-02-2014, 05:33 PM
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I think its a great idea but it will be the toughest for seniors who are 75 + to make that kind of adjustment. Utilizing the right lane properly will be of paramount importance.
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07-02-2014, 05:36 PM
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Utilizing the right lane properly will be of paramount importance.
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x100!!
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07-02-2014, 06:00 PM
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On any given day you can encounter drivers on Hwy 16 doing anywhere from 70 to 140kmh in either lane .People seem to have a real issue with changing lanes .
By the same token the local municipal governments use the hwys going through their towns as a source of tax revenue by putting up see saw speed zones that are designed to either frustrate people or catch them not looking and then issue a Photo radar ticket a week or two later. They also love the prolonged unmanned construction zones with double fines for speeding and usually no construction taking place.
At the moment between Stony Plain and Spruce Grove alone (about a 8 km stretch) heading east the speeds are : 100 --80--60--50--80--60--50--60--50--60--80--100 kmh. I imagine 120 kmh speeds will just add to the variety of speed traps the various towns will be able to collect revenue from. Alberta has made speed trap design almost an art form .
Trying to use cruise control on any of my vehicles is a waste of time for the most part
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07-02-2014, 06:01 PM
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It`s just part of the Coq.Some other go to 110,the vast majority stay the same.We wouldn`t want any flatlanders sailing off corners in the mountains.
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07-02-2014, 06:04 PM
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They are doing it so the premier can get home in the Okanagon that much faster. Really our limits are too slow in the summer...and ok in the winter or at night when it's pouring rain.
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07-02-2014, 06:05 PM
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It`s just part of the Coq.Some other go to 110,the vast majority stay the same.We wouldn`t want any flatlanders sailing off corners in the mountains.
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and the island highway between parksville and campbellriver
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07-02-2014, 06:35 PM
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Island highway between Parksville and Cr is one of the straightest road this flatlander have ever been on.???????
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07-02-2014, 06:40 PM
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On the sections of the highways mentioned in that ^ CBC article, a 120kph speed limit makes a lot of sense. Kudos to BC!
Given that most of our highways here in Alberta are flatter and straighter than those in BC, we should consider doing the same on some of our highways. I'll have to mention this to Danielle
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On any given day you can encounter drivers on Hwy 16 doing anywhere from 70 to 140kmh in either lane .People seem to have a real issue with changing lanes .
By the same token the local municipal governments use the hwys going through their towns as a source of tax revenue by putting up see saw speed zones that are designed to either frustrate people or catch them not looking and then issue a Photo radar ticket a week or two later. They also love the prolonged unmanned construction zones with double fines for speeding and usually no construction taking place.
At the moment between Stony Plain and Spruce Grove alone (about a 8 km stretch) heading east the speeds are : 100 --80--60--50--80--60--50--60--50--60--80--100 kmh. I imagine 120 kmh speeds will just add to the variety of speed traps the various towns will be able to collect revenue from. Alberta has made speed trap design almost an art form .
Trying to use cruise control on any of my vehicles is a waste of time for the most part
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Excellent example JB.
An "art form by the police"? Absolutely.
From a person who has never had a speeding ticket in his life.
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07-02-2014, 07:04 PM
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I for one can't believe that maximum speed limits haven't increased with automotive technology.
Back in the day, 100 KPH felt fast in most cars, no matter how quickly it floated up to that speed.
These days, buy the cheapest compact junker on any lot, it will drive arrow straight, zero lift, at 160 KPH all day long.
Any car built after 2000 can safely travel faster than the 110 KPH on the QE2, the trick is for everyone to travel at that speed.......... except highway trucks.
Even in 'Merica highway trucks have a lower maximum speed on interstates.
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I for one can't believe that maximum speed limits haven't increased with automotive technology.
Back in the day, 100 KPH felt fast in most cars, no matter how quickly it floated up to that speed.
These days, buy the cheapest compact junker on any lot, it will drive arrow straight, zero lift, at 160 KPH all day long.
Any car built after 2000 can safely travel faster than the 110 KPH on the QE2, the trick is for everyone to travel at that speed.......... except highway trucks.
Even in 'Merica highway trucks have a lower maximum speed on interstates.
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Its has very little to do with the cars and lots to do with lack of instruction and understanding of what is actually happening at road contact.
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07-02-2014, 07:38 PM
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Its has very little to do with the cars and lots to do with lack of instruction and understanding of what is actually happening at road contact.
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My granddad never talked about all that technical stuff you mention when he was teaching me. Some people think you need a class or course for every dang thing...
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07-02-2014, 07:41 PM
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hopefully.
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07-02-2014, 07:45 PM
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My granddad never talked about all that technical stuff you mention when he was teaching me. Some people think you need a class or course for every dang thing...
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understanding is the difference between know how to make a car/truck go and driving . If it was that easy id be flying a 747 for quantas. Lol. Why do the germans get to be as safe as we are with areas with no speed limit ... training.
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07-02-2014, 08:04 PM
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Right lane rule
This will only be on multi lane highways.
BC also has a right lane only unless you are passing rule on the multi lane Higways.
AND. The big AND.... Caught at 40kmh over and you lose your vehicle for a week.
We need to bring back annual vehicle inspections for non commercial vehicles.
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isnt it 50 over the limit and you get it taken away for a week?
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07-02-2014, 08:52 PM
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I never thought I would see the day lefty British Columbia would be talking about liquor in grocery stores and raising speed limits. Good for them.
I notice certain cash cows have been left out -
Highway 3 from Joffre to Cranbrook.
Highway 95 from Cranbrook to Invermere
Plus - looks like Parks are not included. That silly 90 km/h speed limit remains in effect on the 93 from Castle Junction to Radium.
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07-02-2014, 09:23 PM
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isnt it 50 over the limit and you get it taken away for a week?
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Only if they catch you.....
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07-02-2014, 09:49 PM
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Good On BC. I Especially like the part about being able to nab the guys holding up traffic (right lane rule).
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07-02-2014, 09:58 PM
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Excellent example JB.
An "art form by the police"? Absolutely.
From a person who has never had a speeding ticket in his life.
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Actually , the Police don't generally get involved in these local pre meditated speed (tax) zones . They are contracted out to the private photo radar/ tax collection specialists. That way the money can be funneled directly into the municipal government coffers and not the RCMP. I know a quite a few years ago I was at a Town of Stony Plain counsel meeting where they admitted they took in over 1 million a yr just from the the one tax trap between Spruce grove and Stony. They have since added several more within the towns corporate limits.
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07-02-2014, 10:01 PM
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We need to bring back annual vehicle inspections for non commercial vehicles.
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Whoa fella....
I'll be buying shares in a garage if that's the case.
I'll be taking one of my trucks off the road soon.
Front end work and it's age and a few other things, it's not worth it to drive on the hiway at high speeds and it's not worth it to fix.
The parts are worth more than the entire truck.
Means a newer truck for me
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Automatic court appearance. Explain it to his honour and your insurance company.
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Originally Posted by fish gunner
understanding is the difference between know how to make a car/truck go and driving . If it was that easy id be flying a 747 for quantas. Lol. Why do the germans get to be as safe as we are with areas with no speed limit ... training.
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That will never happen it seems. It's as if the government doesn't have the stomach to actually train a person in how to drive, before they get their license. Basically in Canada, you learn how to drive a car in a straight line, parallel park, then they give you the next two years to hone your skills while bombing around public roads unsupervised...... it's laughable really, and I understand it's easy for me to talk as a product of this system, but really, I distinctly remember being a terrible driver who made unthinkable choices while learning how to actually drive safely and defensively after I already had license in hand.
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That will never happen it seems. It's as if the government doesn't have the stomach to actually train a person in how to drive, before they get their license. Basically in Canada, you learn how to drive a car in a straight line, parallel park, then they give you the next two years to hone your skills while bombing around public roads unsupervised...... it's laughable really, and I understand it's easy for me to talk as a product of this system, but really, I distinctly remember being a terrible driver who made unthinkable choices while learning how to actually drive safely and defensively after I already had license in hand.
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I found that when I took driver training, I had far more experience than the instructor. I already had my license, and only took the course for the insurance break. Most of the stories the instructor (21yr old) told me were about him backing into things, driving into the garage door, writing off a car in snow, hitting the ditch on an offramp, and so on.
I finally had enough of his stories and him hitting the brake because I would creep a couple inches forward to let in someone at a turning lane, because he was adamant that one must have 20ft distance between you and the vehicle infront to be a safe driver. The final straw was when he hit the brake because I had slowed down and pulled into the shoulder because a bus was passing a semi and was still in my lane only a couple hundred yards ahead. His fear was that I would drive into the ditch. He was oblivious to the danger of a headon collision. I suppose he had never driven hiway 63 before. If this is the type of training given in Canada, I would say we are better off without it.
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I found that when I took driver training, I had far more experience than the instructor. I already had my license, and only took the course for the insurance break. Most of the stories the instructor (21yr old) told me were about him backing into things, driving into the garage door, writing off a car in snow, hitting the ditch on an offramp, and so on.
I finally had enough of his stories and him hitting the brake because I would creep a couple inches forward to let in someone at a turning lane, because he was adamant that one must have 20ft distance between you and the vehicle infront to be a safe driver. The final straw was when he hit the brake because I had slowed down and pulled into the shoulder because a bus was passing a semi and was still in my lane only a couple hundred yards ahead. His fear was that I would drive into the ditch. He was oblivious to the danger of a headon collision. I suppose he had never driven hiway 63 before. If this is the type of training given in Canada, I would say we are better off without it.
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sounds like he is now the manager of a dodge jeep dealership in the east end of Calgary, same kind of idiot
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