Tell me about Hardisty

[omega50]

How did Hardisty become the starting point for Keystone XL?

[hal53]

Originally Posted by omega50

How did Hardisty become the starting point for Keystone XL?

Enbridge has had a tank farm there for years, ever since they started drilling up the " heavy" oil in this area

[Blastoff]

If you drive around the place it will amaze you the size of the tank farm they have there much bigger than refinery row in Edmonton, I always said any of the psycho's would target that spot if they knew about.

[EZM]

Pretty sure CP's north leg had a multi spur there prior to the large scale oil tank farms .... as this was geographically central and flat topography so it made sense for rail in general, but since this was somewhat central to oil as well, they subsequently put in holding tanks and loading racks there.

And what's even better that truck to tank to rail? truck to tank to pipeline !!!

That would be my guess ....

[Blastoff]

Gibson Energy is also a big player.

https://www.jwnenergy.com/article/20...-growing-fast/

[Battle Rat]

Originally Posted by EZM

Pretty sure CP's north leg had a multi spur there prior to the large scale oil tank farms .... as this was geographically central and flat topography so it made sense for rail in general, but since this was somewhat central to oil as well, they subsequently put in holding tanks and loading racks there.

And what's even better that truck to tank to rail? truck to tank to pipeline !!!

That would be my guess ....

Oil movements by rail and truck at Hardisty have away been a drop in a bucket compared to pipeline receipts and deliveries.
Enbridge pumping station was there so that was the natural draw for all the other companies at the tank farm complex.

[Trochu]

I've heard Hardisty Lake is one of the deepest lakes in Alberta.

[Battle Rat]

Originally Posted by Trochu

I've heard Hardisty Lake is one of the deepest lakes in Alberta.

Aound 18 feet.
Maybe there is another Hardity lake.

[Dewey Cox]

They just announced they are closing the school there.

[oilngas]

I believe there is also a pair of underground caverns that are used for storage associated with the surface facilities.

[Battle Rat]

Originally Posted by oilngas

I believe there is also a pair of underground caverns that are used for storage associated with the surface facilities.

You are correct.
They are quite large but they cannot handle Enbidge pipeline rates for receipts or delivery.
Volumes need to be slowly moved to a storage tank to be batches out.
Therefore they are not very efficient when compared to conventional tankage.
The caverns have been used to store butane and diesel at one time but are used for crude today.

[mac1983]

May have something to do with the elevation, all the storage tanks are up on top of the highest hill in the area. Good place to store 100s of thousands of barrels of oil then let them flow downhill in the pipeline. A lot less horsepower needed to get them moving.

[Greatwest]

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox

They just announced they are closing the school there.

Where have u been the past few weeks all schools in Alberta are closed. Lol

[Trochu]

Originally Posted by Battle Rat

Aound 18 feet.

Isn't that what I said?

Maybe the guy I was talking to got the caverns and lake mixed up, said there were caves down there and it went pretty deep.

[Jims83cj5]

I was the Supt, that built the tank farm at Hardisty in 2010 for the Keystone project. I was told that this is where the oil from the “tar” sands was to be mixed with conventional oil and then shipped south. Took a log time after the tanks where built to get anything going.

[MyAlberta]

Used to drink in hardisty. Some pretty good deer hunting years ago.

[Battle Rat]

Originally Posted by Jims83cj5

I was the Supt, that built the tank farm at Hardisty in 2010 for the Keystone project. I was told that this is where the oil from the “tar” sands was to be mixed with conventional oil and then shipped south. Took a log time after the tanks where built to get anything going.

Most of the oils sands crude arrives blended down with condensate on a couple of Enbridge lines.
There is some blending but the majority of oil from the complex originates from the oil sands.
There voumes of conventional wells in Aberta is not what it once was.
Enbridge's Athabasca line was a saving grace for the area when local well production fell off.

[trigger7mm]

Originally Posted by Dewey Cox

They just announced they are closing the school there.

Yep, that school is history. The people who make those decisions couldn’t care less about community. They only look at the numbers on a piece of paper, and no amount of logic can change their minds. The community could come up with donations and fund raisers to keep it going, but they couldn’t care less about that. You really want to mess up a community’s growth, close the school.

[Jims83cj5]

Originally Posted by Battle Rat

Most of the oils sands crude arrives blended down with condensate on a couple of Enbridge lines.
There is some blending but the majority of oil from the complex originates from the oil sands.
There voumes of conventional wells in Aberta is not what it once was.
Enbridge's Athabasca line was a saving grace for the area when local well production fell off.

Like my post said, this is what i was told

[zabbo]

Hardisty has been a tank farm, oil hub since the early to mid sixties. Much smaller that it is now. Drove past last fall and I couldn't believe how big it's become. When I was just a little guy we lived east of there. Excursions to the big city, Edmonton, took us right by. Still recall my brother, sister and myself holding our noses as we went past!

[omega50]

So where would a 10 year old go to school next year if he was on a acreage about 10km Southwest of Amisk?

[hal53]

Originally Posted by omega50

So where would a 10 year old go to school next year if he was on a acreage about 10km Southwest of Amisk?

I think the Amisk school is still open?..check the Buffalo Trails School Division website maybe

[dodgeboy1979]

Originally Posted by omega50

So where would a 10 year old go to school next year if he was on a acreage about 10km Southwest of Amisk?

i believe Hughendon would be the school

[omega50]

Originally Posted by hal53

I think the Amisk school is still open?..check the Buffalo Trails School Division website maybe

Looks like Amisk is ECS-Grade 3

[trigger7mm]

Kids that are miles from Hardisty, but used to go to school there, will now get to sit on a bus for an hour and a half, and get shipped to Sedgewick. That is unless they go to a different school division to the east. Hughenden maybe? Just the little guys can go to Amisk.

[Snort]

Amisk ECS-3 and then Hughenden 4-12

[Big Grey Wolf]

Need to expand Hardisty tank farms and salt cavern storage as I mentioned in previous AO post. Then we can store more Alberta WCS oil until someone willing to pay decent price for our hard fought heavy oil. National Strategic oil reserve.