Dwight Rodtka Cashes In on Wolf Incentive Money

[martinnordegg]

I wonder when Dwight cashed his Wolf Incentive cheque what he spent it on. Maybe a donation to his favorite charity.

I didn't see any of the Media ask why he would participate and collect money on a program he openly discredits.

[Marty S]

Originally Posted by martinnordegg

I wonder when Dwight cashed his Wolf Incentive cheque what he spent it on. Maybe a donation to his favorite charity.

I didn't see any of the Media ask why he would participate and collect money on a program he openly discredits.

Please tell us more, I'm only beginning to catch a glimmer to this story.

[martinnordegg]

Originally Posted by Marty S

Please tell us more, I'm only beginning to catch a glimmer to this story.

Pretty simple Marty. Dwight felt so passionate about collecting his cheque from the Wolf Incentive Program he even went to Court to do so. I'd say it looks like he's a supporter of Wolf Incentive Programs and Bounties.

[martinnordegg]

I think maybe Wolf Matters, Lush Cosmetics and the Media should maybe do some more research on their "Poster Child" wolf expert before their remaining tiny drop of credibility is gone.

[ROAD HAMMER]

What trappers local is he part of ?

[martinnordegg]

Originally Posted by ROAD HAMMER

What trappers local is he part of ?

Not sure if he is a member of the ATA at the present time. He frequented the Rocky Local enough to attempt to qualify for incentive money.

Certainly he is an active participant in the wolf incentive/bounty programs. Even went so far to file a Civil Suit to get his money.

Such a passionate person on the subject of wolves.

Same old, same old type...all about money.

Wolf Matters and Lush Cosmetics should be real proud to have taken him on as a spokesperson.

In fact I will be emailing the Lush Cosmetics HQ in the UK to see how they feel about endorsing Mr. Dwight.

[Marty S]

Wolf bounty can also be subject to definition. Bounty is payment to eliminate target vermin species. A man who receives payment to kill wolves is a bounty hunter, there are differing payment schedules, ie. by the head/tail/carcass or by wages.

People who work for an agency that kills wolves, and get paid for doing so are collecting bounty.

Our friend, Dwighty-boy has been collecting bounty his whole professional life!

One must note that there is a massive difference between being a professional and being an expert.

People that are good at spreading poison around don't qualify as animal damage control experts. Anybody can spread poison around and have some effect, in fact every county/municipality in Alberta has what is known as an "Agricultural Field Man" who's job is to spread poison when farmers and rancher report predatory complaints and want something done. So when the professional agricultural fieldman isn't busy spraying weeds or performing other non-wildlife professional agricultural related tasks, then he will have time to show up at the farmers property and spread poison. The bounty he is paid is his wage for exterminating wolves/coyotes, IF he is able have success.

Unfortunately, this western Canadian breed of wildlife control official is essentially useless. He is not a wildlife expert first, his expertise lies in the agricultural field somewhere, and the poisoning wildlife just happens to go with the job, because anybody can throw a little poison around.

In the Western USA, a real/genuine animal damage control program is in existence. Here men who are true experts are hired, generally based upon their fur trapping/hunting credentials, most often with somebody in the program vouching for the prospective applicant. These men are generally experts with traps, snares, calling, specialized dogs, denning, and also receive structured training on the use of selective poison administering devices such as M-44's and coyote getters. They also hunt wolves and coyotes from helicopters and airplanes, especially during those times of year when the target species are ganged up on the calving/lambing grounds (but this is a simple task than anybody can do). These men are true qualified experts. People such as Scott Huber, Chris McAllister, Craig O'Gorman, John Graham, (and believe me there's even better out there like the guy who killed the notorious "Phantom Pack") are true animal damage control specialists.

We mustn't call our friend Dwighty an expert, in my opinion, he's just some guy that got the fun job, spread his poison around and pacified the farmers and ranchers, and does not hold a candle to the true animal damage control specialist of the modern era.

[martinnordegg]

Rodtka is making his calls to the Locals to get numbers of wolves harvested etc.. He phoned the Sundre Local and got the boot. Apparently he relishes in threatening to take people to Court. Not sure why but that's his style.

I wonder if he ever heard of a countersuit?

[Marty S]

Originally Posted by Marty S

The bounty he is paid is his wage for exterminating wolves/coyotes, IF he is able have success.

That came out wrong... My apologies! I meant to say this:

The wages he is paid becomes the bounty for ideally exterminating the problem wolves/coyotes.

Also pay special attention to the word "ideally". If the individual is not capable of performing the job, he still gets paid whether the depredation continues or not. With an actual "by the head/tail/carcass" bounty, at least animals are removed before money is paid out.

Therefore, with paid employees drawing a wage, there is no guarantee that results will be had per dollar spent. There is in contrast a guarantee that dollars will be spent, but no guarantee of results.

Bounty Programs can be effective so long as the administering body is capable of eliminating potential abuses and abusers. But let's save that rabbit trail for another thread.

One more clarification...

[H380]

Originally Posted by Marty S

That came out wrong... My apologies! I meant to say this:

The wages he is paid becomes the bounty for ideally exterminating the problem wolves/coyotes.

Also pay special attention to the word "ideally". If the individual is not capable of performing the job, he still gets paid whether the depredation continues or not. With an actual "by the head/tail/carcass" bounty, at least animals are removed before money is paid out.

Therefore, with paid employees drawing a wage, there is no guarantee that results will be had per dollar spent. There is in contrast a guarantee that dollars will be spent, but no guarantee of results.

Bounty Programs can be effective so long as the administering body is capable of eliminating potential abuses and abusers. But let's save that rabbit trail for another thread.

One more clarification...



Hypothetically of course!

"No guarantee that results will be had per dollar spent ". Sounds like the ideal Government employee ..

[ted varley]

I couldn't agree more with Marty. When a child needs attention usually they lash out, in dwights case he needs the constant attention of people he can fool to believe his credibility in the industry is valid. I think this fellow would dry up and blow away in the wind without the constant recognition from sources and forums.


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[martinnordegg]

Originally Posted by ted varley

I couldn't agree more with Marty. When a child needs attention usually they lash out, in dwights case he needs the constant attention of people he can fool to believe his credibility in the industry is valid. I think this fellow would dry up and blow away in the wind without the constant recognition from sources and forums.


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I would have thought after he actively participated in a wolf incentive program and cashed in, the Organization and affiliates would have punted him.

He is quite the Spin Doctor. It could be possible he has even convinced himself of his rantings.

[HunterDave]

It would be interesting to get the details about our little friend's wolf incentive court case. It should be on the public record but I wouldn't know where to look for it.

[singleshotom]

I too have wondered.
How can you get paid wages for doing something an then collect a bounty....
I would think that the employer should have the rights to the bounty.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I do know just as an example:
If you work for a company and create a patented invention, your employer has all rights to owning it.
sst

[parfleche]

It depends on the deal he has with the employer , As for myself I am paid to trap and I get to keep all fur etc.Not many want $6.00 Beaver or summer coyotes !
1st off no one owns the wildlife.
2nd the only thing a landowner or lease holder can do is dictate who or who does not go on said property . Although he may kill any wildlife that predates on his animals , providing he is on his own property,or hire someone to do this With exceptions !
3rd in order to be in possession of raw fur you need a trappers license.or proper damage control permit.
4th An entity such as a highways dept HAVE to have a permit number under which the hired person MUST operate. It is with a start and end date for a certain area also.

[martinnordegg]

Now it looks like he is back on here under the handle Crazy Lazy. Now why would someone describe themselves as Crazy and Lazy?

The truth shall prevail!

[martinnordegg]

Same as the last ten alias. Can't even send him a pm or access his public profile.

[Crazy Lazy]

Originally Posted by martinnordegg

Same as the last ten alias. Can't even send him a pm or access his public profile.

Why don't you and nube give him a call and ask your questions? You seem obsessed.

[nube]

Obsessed? LOL
You are totally Nutz
You want to come on a hunting and trapping forum to do what? Change our ways? I wouldn't waste my time going on Wolfmatters to try and change your ways. What's the point?
You are basically wasting your time and if you can't see that yes, you are totally nutz and need some serious help or a new hobby as you don't really seem to do too well at the trapping game....

[nube]

Dwight, explain to me what you want out of all this so I can understand please? I am listening so please while you have this odd chance to tell me something please explain?
What do you want different?
Would you prefere we use poison only in Alberta for wolf Control?
Legholds only?
Snares to your liking only?
What do you want?
You know there is a wolf problem so what would make things all rosy posy so you would be happy?

[martinnordegg]

Originally Posted by nube

Dwight, explain to me what you want out of all this so I can understand please? I am listening so please while you have this odd chance to tell me something please explain?
What do you want different?
Would you prefere we use poison only in Alberta for wolf Control?
Legholds only?
Snares to your liking only?
What do you want?
You know there is a wolf problem so what would make things all rosy posy so you would be happy?

Apparently he is in favour of using poison to control the predator population. Same old. He comes on here with NO SOLUTIONS or what he recommends. I guess he has nothing to propose...just rhetoric. Just too afraid to post he is favour of poison and why.

[pikeslayer22]

Don't feed the Troll...He comes on here to get ammo for his lunatic Anti groups.

[nube]

Yes , too afraid to speak up I see and would rather PM me. Stop wasting my time Dwight. Spit it out or get lost

[martinnordegg]

Originally Posted by pikeslayer22

Don't feed the Troll...He comes on here to get ammo for his lunatic Anti groups.

I find it real strange his Anti Groups back him when he admits he recommends using poison to control predator populations. That's just bizarre.

[nube]

They don't back him....
they may verbally but thats about it

[nube]

If he really cared about what he was doing he would try and let us be part of a solution to what he considers a problem not sit here and play games.

[martinnordegg]

Originally Posted by nube

If he really cared about what he was doing he would try and let us be part of a solution to what he considers a problem not sit here and play games.

Exactly, but that's not his style. By the way he has NO FORMAL BIOLOGY TRAINING WHATSOEVER. Even less field experience.

[martinnordegg]

Originally Posted by nube

If he really cared about what he was doing he would try and let us be part of a solution to what he considers a problem not sit here and play games.

almost makes you think it's all about funding/money/media attention. Maybe the media should do a bit more research in who they endorse as so called "experts".

[nube]

Does that mean I can change my name to DR. Nube now? I always wanted to be a DR. lol

[nube]

In his PM'S to me he mentions numerous times that he could care less how many wolves die as long as it is humanely yet every piece of info on the internet has nothing to do with that at all. All the BS on the internet is all about Bounties and Anti wolf harvesting propaganda.
The guy is all about getting attention and obviously people have figured that much out by now.