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03-23-2016, 05:08 PM
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Cross fox or?
Is this a cross or is it just a dark red fox? There a number of dark fox like this in that immediate area of Northern Ab, I took this pic last fall.
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03-23-2016, 05:13 PM
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That looks like the epitome of a cross fox to me.....
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03-23-2016, 05:21 PM
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Cross fox
Definitely a cross fox.
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03-23-2016, 05:23 PM
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Cross, I have seen a black (silver) fox before, beautiful animal.
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03-23-2016, 05:23 PM
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Interesting
Never seen or heard of such.
Thanks for the post!
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03-23-2016, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Talking moose
Cross, I have seen a black (silver) fox before, beautiful animal.
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Make a nice mount.
Grizz
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03-24-2016, 10:29 AM
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Yep, that's a cross fox
They are a beautiful animal that has eluded me for my entire life. Seen them a few times but never in a shottable spot. I've also never been able to trap one
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03-24-2016, 11:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torkdiesel
Yep, that's a cross fox
They are a beautiful animal that has eluded me for my entire life. Seen them a few times but never in a shottable spot. I've also never been able to trap one
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Seen a few black fox ( silver fox) in the mcbride area as well as grande cache. Never seen one with red highlights. A quick google search says they often cross breed as black( silver) is rare. Even litter mates are often one colour or the other. Hope I an understanding that correct.
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03-24-2016, 12:09 PM
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Not cross breed just a colour mutation. Dominant and regressive gene thing! I've caught one nice cross fox!
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03-24-2016, 12:59 PM
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Cool picture
for sure cross fox and that's a nice one, seen a few around Zama and Rainbow Lake when i was drilling on a a Nodwell for seismic in the 80's , curious little guys they would sit 20 yards behind the rig and watch us drill , they really like ham sandwiches 
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03-24-2016, 01:55 PM
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Just a colour phase of a red
Lots up around GP.
Tork, you should have trapped my uncles lease when you owned that line! Loaded with silvers and cross phase foxes! I can't bring my self to shoot one! I hand fed severel family's of them as a kid.
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03-24-2016, 02:23 PM
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Cross Fox or ?
Looks like a Cross Fox, picture below is of a Cross fox in Northern Alberta, BC border up North on our way to Alaska.
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03-24-2016, 04:29 PM
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They used to call that color a Superior Cross. Paid big money back in the 50s.
Typically they were worth ten times what a Red was worth, back in the day.
The term cross comes from the light pattern seen on the flanks and neck as it often forms a cross over the shoulders.
And it is as others have said, just another color variation of a Red Fox.
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03-24-2016, 05:20 PM
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Got one last year. Second one I have ever seen. Shot one 20 years ago and trapped this one
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03-24-2016, 05:57 PM
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Yup cross fox definitely gets my vote
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03-24-2016, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by husky7mm
Seen a few black fox ( silver fox) in the mcbride area as well as grande cache. Never seen one with red highlights. A quick google search says they often cross breed as black( silver) is rare. Even litter mates are often one colour or the other. Hope I an understanding that correct.
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Kinda like chocolate , cinnamon and black bear cubs all in same litter .  Ive been lucky enough to take a couple of them sold one for $200 a loooong time ago , should have kept it but when you are 18 , thats alot of money .
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03-24-2016, 11:03 PM
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Gone Hunting
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I've caught two in my life, but that was well after the Fox pelts dropped to nothing.
And neither was a superior cross. Close, but looked more like a really dirty red.
Sold them for around $10 dollars as I recall.
Keep in mind, there was zero Fox of any color in this area when I was young.
The first Fox I ever saw was east of Coddote lake in 1982. It was a classic Silver.
First one I tracked on my line was in 1985, caught my first Fox the following year, a Honey Red.
I've a couple of photos of dark Crosses and some real nice photos of a light cross just a mile from where I live now. I've seen a few more then I've photographed, but not a lot.
There still isn't all that many Foxes in the area. Not like down south. I think they have trouble competing with the Fisher, Marten, Coyotes and Wolves. There is no niche here for them to thrive in.
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03-25-2016, 08:05 AM
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Check out this pretty boy/girl......
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03-25-2016, 08:51 AM
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Saw a pair of these while hunting east of red deer. Couldn't bring myself to shoot them. Very cool animals.
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03-25-2016, 09:25 AM
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Yeah I got one roaming around the property, it is a beautiful kinda like a tortoise shell Color, I want to wack it and get it to the taxidermist, wife says let it hang out and roam around...decisions.
It still shows up.
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03-25-2016, 02:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albertadeer
Just a colour phase of a red
Lots up around GP.
Tork, you should have trapped my uncles lease when you owned that line! Loaded with silvers and cross phase foxes! I can't bring my self to shoot one! I hand fed severel family's of them as a kid.
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Seen a couple on the mountain but always on land I couldn't hunt. I'm surprised there was that many around the lease in the hills. Only ever caught a few fox there and nothing of the "crossed" variety
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03-25-2016, 03:44 PM
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You got to hang some snares to catch them Tork. Try it on your new line and you will hook up on one. They are a lot of them up north. Tricky to get in footholds. At least for me they are. Baitpiles and snares will get them if you can keep the wolves away
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03-25-2016, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nube
You got to hang some snares to catch them Tork. Try it on your new line and you will hook up on one. They are a lot of them up north. Tricky to get in footholds. At least for me they are. Baitpiles and snares will get them if you can keep the wolves away
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I get a few foxes a year in Lynx snares at bait piles. Just never been lucky enough to get a cross fox I guess. My buddy has snared a couple and shot a couple up here so I know they're around. Just not around me 
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03-25-2016, 08:23 PM
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Have you tried to use the cross fox call. It squeaks a little higher pitch than the Red fox Call........  lol
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