View Poll Results: Do you report your hunting harvests to AlbertaRELM?
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Yes
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No, I forget to/can't be bothered
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No, I don't want to
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02-23-2016, 03:55 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Calgary
Posts: 2,008
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respond accurately to both provincial and federal surveys, for what it's worth.
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02-23-2016, 05:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Secret Creek. BC
Posts: 981
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Always and honestly.
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02-23-2016, 06:10 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: northern AB
Posts: 2,241
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NO and will not as long as the FN can go 24-7 and this is what someone calls -
"management"
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02-23-2016, 06:41 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: calgary
Posts: 85
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Yes every year.
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02-23-2016, 06:42 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Slave Lake AB
Posts: 691
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I try to get them all, but I usually miss a couple every year.
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02-23-2016, 07:07 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: N. E. of High River
Posts: 4,985
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Yes! I see no reason not to?
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02-23-2016, 10:15 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,888
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Always
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02-25-2016, 05:35 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: southern Ab
Posts: 71
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Yes, my first year hunting & I was successful filling both my tags (woot woot!!). Will continue each and every year I hunt as well.
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02-25-2016, 06:22 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Northern Alberta
Posts: 1,704
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Huh
Agentsmith, Did they say on the podcast how they figured only 50% actually register kills in states that have mandatory registration?
Seems like a guess on their part? And are the other 50% poachers?
I think in a perfect honest world voluntary reporting sounds fine, but I also believe only the dedicated sportsman report, and it skewes the numbers against that group as they are typically more successful, which appears to be what happened with archery mule deer hunters, but that's just a guess.
And not meant as a derail, just a thought.
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02-25-2016, 07:00 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Look behind you :)
Posts: 27,780
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Depends on how I am feeling the day I get the email.
I stopped reporting back in the day when the phone calls came from other fish and game members...I didn't what to share where I was successful with individuals I didn't know who also hunted. I submit my heads in the mandatory zones but doing the survey depends on my train of thought at the time.
LC
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02-25-2016, 08:10 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,248
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Always have and always will. Just like attending the open houses.
It's kind of like voting to me..if you aren't part of the process then quit your whining.
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02-25-2016, 10:25 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Uh, guess? :)
Posts: 26,739
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Always. It's like voting. Can't bitch if don't pitch in and help. P&E aren't perfect but why handicap them further?
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Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate
In this case Oki has cut to to the exact heart of the matter!
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02-25-2016, 11:16 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Calgary
Posts: 455
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl
Agentsmith, Did they say on the podcast how they figured only 50% actually register kills in states that have mandatory registration?
Seems like a guess on their part? And are the other 50% poachers?
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They said wildlife officers do spot checks at butchers and such, and then cross-check to see if the guy reported. Not poaching, just not reporting. I presume the 50% number was a fairly rough guess.
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02-25-2016, 07:46 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 425
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Hunter survey
This is the first year I have not. Reason why is that the alberta govt along with politics make poor decisions. For example they have been shutting down opportunities for bow hunters for moose and mule deer from the results of the hunter survey. Thoughts?
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02-25-2016, 07:49 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: WMU 108
Posts: 6,308
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Always have and always will here too , Can't expect data to be collected if we arent willing to give it . I was one of those phone survey guys for our local club for almost 10 years , club made money by doing it and job got done .Most individuals were good about giving their info , some got bent thinking we were looking for "their spots " , some Husbands got a little defensive when we asked to speak to their wife ..lol . Interesting work .
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02-25-2016, 07:53 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: WMU 108
Posts: 6,308
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl
Agentsmith, Did they say on the podcast how they figured only 50% actually register kills in states that have mandatory registration?
Seems like a guess on their part? And are the other 50% poachers?
I think in a perfect honest world voluntary reporting sounds fine, but I also believe only the dedicated sportsman report, and it skewes the numbers against that group as they are typically more successful, which appears to be what happened with archery mule deer hunters, but that's just a guess.
And not meant as a derail, just a thought.
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Id like to see the mandatory registration taken one step further . If you purchase a hunting licence you would be required to fill out a hunter survey at the end of the year . You dont fill it out , you dont hunt the next year . I like the ministers tag bonus idea .
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02-25-2016, 08:21 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Northern Alberta
Posts: 1,704
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Yes
A number of US states won't allow you to enter the draw without having filled your hunter report. I would like to see check stations, for all, including FN, get a real idea of where our numbers are. We do it for sheep and I never understood why we put them on a pedestal and nothing else.
I know it cost money, but you see it in the US where taxes are lower!
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02-25-2016, 09:06 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 28
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Always do. The more data they have, hopefully the better job they do.
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03-13-2016, 05:58 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Calgary
Posts: 12
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Definitely.
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03-13-2016, 07:15 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 203
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STOP - Ask yourself
A very ... simple question for anyone that was maybe or no ...
Ready ...
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(Maybe someone will fish your lake?)
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03-13-2016, 07:25 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Camrose
Posts: 45,139
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I will never be in favor of any mandatory registration, unless native people have to register each and every game animal that they kill.
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03-13-2016, 08:17 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodTourist
Always do. The more data they have, hopefully the better job they do.
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The more accurate data you have may help do a better job, but how accurate is it now?...how accurate will it be if you force hunters to fill one out?
From many of the comments I have read on here about harvest limits, the data they are using is either seriously flawed or they are totally ignoring it, and still using their "best guess" method.
Think about the APOS allocations if you believe they actually listen to the hunters in the province about harvest limits.
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03-14-2016, 04:20 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Vermilion ab
Posts: 2,289
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobalong
The more accurate data you have may help do a better job, but how accurate is it now?...how accurate will it be if you force hunters to fill one out?
From many of the comments I have read on here about harvest limits, the data they are using is either seriously flawed or they are totally ignoring it, and still using their "best guess" method.
Think about the APOS allocations if you believe they actually listen to the hunters in the province about harvest limits.
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There in lies the problem , no accountability from ESRD .
I used to do the surveys faithfully and honestly , but have become seriously jaded by decisions be made in the 4-5 years. Until the government reveals how the data is interpreted I won't be filling any out.
No different the the secretsy behind the areial counts, the closed door , on a need to know basis( only they need to know) If and when ESRD is upfront with how the data is used/ not skewed , I will go back to do the survey. I doubt it will happen anytime soon.
In some states people have thier draw results back already, some provinces have thier draw opening fairly soon , but Alberta sits around twittling thumbs till June/ July . What a joke .. With the technology today it this is ludicrous ..
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03-14-2016, 09:27 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 414
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Originally Posted by super7mag
There in lies the problem , no accountability from ESRD .
I used to do the surveys faithfully and honestly , but have become seriously jaded by decisions be made in the 4-5 years. Until the government reveals how the data is interpreted I won't be filling any out.
No different the the secretsy behind the areial counts, the closed door , on a need to know basis( only they need to know) If and when ESRD is upfront with how the data is used/ not skewed , I will go back to do the survey. I doubt it will happen anytime soon.
In some states people have thier draw results back already, some provinces have thier draw opening fairly soon , but Alberta sits around twittling thumbs till June/ July . What a joke .. With the technology today it this is ludicrous ..
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I have only been hunting for 16 years so I don't consider myself as experienced as most folks on here.
Can you give some specific reason why you are so jaded from decisions made the last 4-5 years?
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03-14-2016, 12:42 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Lloydminster
Posts: 4,515
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every year faithfully, I hope that the info is used and helps then understand game management and set draws and limits etc, I know I may be living in a rose garden and I have very little faith in any level of government anymore, but still try to do my part
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03-14-2016, 12:59 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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There are serious problems with some of the current harvest data that has been used to make significant changes to hunting regulations. I have been told by personel within F&W that some of this data is simply invalid. AEP would like to change this fact.
The only way to improve the data is for greater participation from hunters. Be part of the solution or part of the problem.... If need be, make harvest reports mandatory.
AEP is close to deciding that reporting will become mandatory.
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03-14-2016, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: rollyview
Posts: 7,860
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Originally Posted by walking buffalo
AEP is close to deciding that reporting will become mandatory.
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please please please let this happen! I want manditory registration too, too many people running around like nuts
Last edited by fish_e_o; 03-14-2016 at 01:13 PM.
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03-14-2016, 01:17 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walking buffalo
There are serious problems with some of the current harvest data that has been used to make significant changes to hunting regulations. I have been told by personel within F&W that some of this data is simply invalid. AEP would like to change this fact.
The only way to improve the data is for greater participation from hunters. Be part of the solution or part of the problem.... If need be, make harvest reports mandatory.
AEP is close to deciding that reporting will become mandatory.
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AEP, Alberta Environment and Parks.
Change is constant but we are not always aware of it, I checked some older links thank for an update.
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03-14-2016, 02:14 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Camrose
Posts: 45,139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walking buffalo
There are serious problems with some of the current harvest data that has been used to make significant changes to hunting regulations. I have been told by personel within F&W that some of this data is simply invalid. AEP would like to change this fact.
The only way to improve the data is for greater participation from hunters. Be part of the solution or part of the problem.... If need be, make harvest reports mandatory.
AEP is close to deciding that reporting will become mandatory.
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The only way to improve the data, is to include all hunters, including natives. Incomplete data, will never be accurate data.
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03-14-2016, 10:23 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wildwoods
I do it faithfully every year. They do need a comments section though. I don't believe they grasp the concept of people who pass up harvest opportunity...
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I agree bud! They need a comment section for each tag. They so need to add a count of how many animals you seen in the zone you hunted.
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