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44-year-old man arrested after RCMP officer beat with own baton in Cold Lake, Alta.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7153981/m...-rcmp-officer/
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/witness-...utoPlay%3Dtrue
“An incident like this highlights the unpredictable and dangerous situations we face on a daily basis,” Sgt. Ryan Howrish said in a news release.
How quickly things go from good to bad....now had the officer used lethal force and rightfully so I am sure this would have taken a complete different route given the times we are in right now.....I only hope the officer makes a speedy recovery.
The scum bag needed a long drive prior to going to lock-up.....
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07-09-2020, 08:10 AM
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Of course they don't release the POS name.
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07-09-2020, 08:13 AM
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Must be someone that will have a charges dropped. Not surprised.
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07-09-2020, 08:15 AM
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Yup you won't see this on MSM but if the police officer had smacked the guy up side the head there would be riots in the streets and of course cries of racism, that's just the world we live in, get used to it folks it's going to get worse, don't you know we have systemic racism country wide now
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07-09-2020, 08:24 AM
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You have to wonder how accurate the reporting is when the article features a photo of toy handcuffs. You can clearly see the release lever on left side of the cuffs.
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07-09-2020, 08:26 AM
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There is no doubt in my mind that almost every officer on patrol is worried about how much force they use against minorities right now. Sad thing is, this is going to lead to an officer being killed even though they had the means and training to defend themselves.
Maybe the suspect wasn't a minority but due to lack of a name in the story and the fact they didn't say "white male" I am going to assume.
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07-09-2020, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CMichaud
Of course they don't release the POS name.
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Yup and no one helped or took a video of the incident. Hopefully she got it on her dash cam.
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07-09-2020, 08:36 AM
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Remember when a RCMP officer had to be 6"2" and 180 lbs to pre-qualify for enlistment?
Gotta wonder how much of a difference this is making now?
just a passing thought!
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07-09-2020, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hawk-i
Remember when a RCMP officer had to be 6"2" and 180 lbs to pre-qualify for enlistment?
Gotta wonder how much of a difference this is making now?
just a passing thought!
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I agree there should be standards. Even at 6”2 180 they would not be a major physical presence. I am 6”2 220lb and I would not consider myself big. Height increases weight faster then people realize. Honesty shorter stocky people are the nightmare to grapple with and that would apply more to a Leo having to control someone
As for the OP hopefully the officer recovers quickly. Unfortunately these are hazards of the job and why most of the ones I know seek outside training. Except for one who my 11 year old daughter could beat but I don’t know how he qualified to become RCMP
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07-09-2020, 09:19 AM
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I am grateful that this did not get worse for the officer. I wish her a speedy recovery. Her service pistol could have just as easily been the weapon stolen.
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07-09-2020, 09:27 AM
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This should be all over the news, instead they have the false arrest by Edmonton cops (Which is also bad).
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07-09-2020, 09:29 AM
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#She says some members of the public watched the incident “like it was a joke.”
Im starting to hope this frikkin virus takes us all out. we dont deserve this planet anymore. a joke watching a woman getting beat and punched out? people make me sick
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07-09-2020, 09:31 AM
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#She says some members of the public watched the incident “like it was a joke.”
Im starting to hope this frikkin virus takes us all out. we dont deserve this planet anymore. a joke watching a woman getting beat and punched out? people make me sick
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Agree 100%
The amount of people who will sit and watch or pull out the phone to record instead of help someone is pathetic
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07-09-2020, 09:34 AM
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I see something like this I will end up in cuffs too, I was raised to help someone in distress no matter what it costs me
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07-09-2020, 09:53 AM
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FN male I'm told. And you don't think this officers colleagues aren't angry that she's beaten? This entire situation is pathetic and at by no means RCMPs fault. Que the retaliation.
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07-09-2020, 09:56 AM
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I see something like this I will end up in cuffs too, I was raised to help someone in distress no matter what it costs me
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Agreed. I couldn’t sit back and watch this all unfold right in front of me.
Back in my younger partying days at a bar in Saskatoon a buddy went outside for a smoke by himself a Chinese gang jumped him outside the bar. Myself and 4 other buddies seen it happen from inside the bar we all went rushing to the door to go help him and the bouncers wouldn’t let us out, and they just stood there too blocking the door while our buddy lay there on the ground while these gang guys laid the boots to him breaking ribs and kicking him in the head breaking his jaw and giving him a very serious concussion. What a sick feeling when all we could do is watch from inside there was no way the bouncers were letting us out. All they did was call the cops and an ambulance. Buddy should have just gave the guys his wallet because that’s what they wanted.
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07-09-2020, 10:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoky buck
I agree there should be standards. Even at 6”2 180 they would not be a major physical presence. I am 6”2 220lb and I would not consider myself big. Height increases weight faster then people realize. Honesty shorter stocky people are the nightmare to grapple with and that would apply more to a Leo having to control someone
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Reminds of an incident that happen. She was 5'1", weight 120 lbs, Cop and they sent her after a 6'3" 340 lb man who was selling drugs, just a good ole boy, he was mentally handigap. She was kicking his back legs and everything, but he was not going down and he started to walk away. With that a siren was wailing in the back-ground and a another Cop about 6'4" and about 270 lbs and he never even stopped the car, he threw it into park, got out while it was still moving and nailed this guy. She come over after the incident, I was watching and gave the account that he struct her, I said no way. With that she picked up her stuff and left the house. Now maybe he did, but I didn't see it. I had a first hand seat and if he had somehow had given her a shove or whatever and I would have went to her aid, but somehow that did not happened.
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07-09-2020, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk-i
Remember when a RCMP officer had to be 6"2" and 180 lbs to pre-qualify for enlistment?
Gotta wonder how much of a difference this is making now?
just a passing thought!
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I concur, we'd have a lot less so called excessive force.
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07-09-2020, 10:22 AM
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Two officers in the same car on patrol. Slightest resistance, results in a taser!
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07-09-2020, 11:37 AM
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back in my military days, No not an exciting field at all I was in, but buddy and I were ordering a sub in the restaurant, 6 punks hassling a couple little teenage girls, guess we looked serious when we asked punks to leave so they did. got in buddies car and I ended up taking a 2x4 in the melon right through the closed window. I brushed the glass off and they ran. buddy drove around til they showed up again and being a gentleman I returned his lumber to him. drove to the cop shop and confessed cop just said I know the POS he didnt get anything he didnt deserve. have a nice day. I was a lot younger then but Im still too dumb to stand by and watch that crap. I think the internet was the beginning of human devolution, most would rather get 5 minutes of fame posting a video than do the right thing. gotta get all those FB likes yah know. or youtube hits. wish the friggin aliens would hurry up and get here
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07-09-2020, 11:39 AM
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"..The RCMP officer was taken to hospital with serious but
non-life threatening injuries and is now recovering at home.
Morgan considers her lucky to have survived the beating without help.
She says some members of the public watched the incident “ like it was a joke.”
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Wholly crap...I could never live with myself & watch such a thing take place in front of my eyes like a
total 100% Piece Of Utter Poop!!
About 4yrs ago I seen a female Cop struggling violently trying to get a FN man into her car (as I was passing by)
that was much taller than her, by time I got turned around and returned, her back up just arrived & I merely
just had front row seats to the ordeal. This idiot in Cold lake would have received a angry flying kick
& a face follow up to the nose if I had the pleasure of being there. With all the crap the Cops are currently
getting in the last month, I am firmly a biased 'Pro-Cop'r' these days.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoky buck
I agree there should be standards. Even at 6”2 180 they would not be a major physical presence. I am 6”2 220lb and I would not consider myself big. Height increases weight faster then people realize. Honesty shorter stocky people are the nightmare to grapple with and that would apply more to a Leo having to control someone
As for the OP hopefully the officer recovers quickly. Unfortunately these are hazards of the job and why most of the ones I know seek outside training. Except for one who my 11 year old daughter could beat but I don’t know how he qualified to become RCMP
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A childhood friends Dad was a Calgary Police officer back in the early '60's and he noted that the toughest fight he ever had was with a one-armed indigenous fellow, its hard when you've trained to grab a limb that isn't there!
The mentions of the change in minimal physical standards over the years reminds me of having female apprentices a couple of times, I imagine its not that different for the police. Being the stronger one I'd wind up doing the bulk of the heavy lifting, and I'm sure its no different with the male officers having to do more than their equitable share when it comes to combative suspects. If its all male officers, the work load and danger is shared evenly, if there is a female officer who is 5'3" and 135 lbs they are not going to be as effective as a 180+ lb male, clearly in such instances the workload will not be evenly shared and the male officer will be in greater peril due to not having another 180 - 240 lb male assisting him rather than the petite female. In big city police dept's with lots of back-up moments away this is mitigated, but in remote places with few officers covering vast distances its another ball game entirely.
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A childhood friends Dad was a Calgary Police officer back in the early '60's and he noted that the toughest fight he ever had was with a one-armed indigenous fellow, its hard when you've trained to grab a limb that isn't there!
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one arms name wasnt George by chance?
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Quote:
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A childhood friends Dad was a Calgary Police officer back in the early '60's and he noted that the toughest fight he ever had was with a one-armed indigenous fellow, its hard when you've trained to grab a limb that isn't there!
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Their training sucks for the most part
My one RCMP buddy loved bringing guys from work to the club he trained at if they thought they were tough or could handle anything. Everyone of them got woke up real quick
It was an eye opener to most that there is a reversal or escape to every single move they were taught lol
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I'd love for him to be around to be able to ask him, but the gent passed away about 22 years ago. He was one of my favorite people.
He transitioned from the police to the ambulance service when that was still a privately run thing, then he went into the funeral industry until retirement. He was even a Shriner clown, with all the mischievous sense of humor that entails.
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All the looters rioters and protestors will be cheering on the moron that beat the Cop, firing up a gofundme for his legal defense, and calling it justice for all the times a Cop beat a poor innocent non hardened criminal.
There is no win anymore. He better get real time.
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Of course they don't release the POS name.
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Travis Peter Slipchuk from Bonnyville is the accused according to news reports.
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07-09-2020, 09:22 PM
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I hope this piece of crap get what he deserves in jail for being a women beater.
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I am so sick of al the news outlets , CBC, CTV and global as they are so one sided.
All they report on is that cops beating up indigenous people, like the one in Saskatoon. But they don’t report on the leading up to the incident.
And they don’t report on this Cold lake incident where the indigenous guy beats up an officer
Hope the officer gets well soon.
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07-09-2020, 10:42 PM
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Travis Peter Slipchuk from Bonnyville is the accused according to news reports.
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Can you confirm the name/post link/PM/etc ?
If this is his name, he is no FN/native.
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