Trump’s back door strategy

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Looper

You weren't discussing any perspectives. You were slagging Trump supporters. Nice try though.

Looper

Jeepers sensitive crowd here, just funnin was all but I guess with todays culture gotta tone it down a bit.

We will see how ol’Trumpy Pooh comes out of this bind he got himself into soon enough.


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[EZM]

It doesn't matter that Trump, this time, is clearly up the creek legally. The difference between him and other politicians who had files at their homes is pretty stark in contrast - others had a handful of files, were open to surrendering the files when asked, without lying, obstructing or playing a dangerous game of hide and go seek with the FBI.

None of the others had to have the FBI raid their homes to get the files back.

None of the others had lied, in statements, to the FBI and none others had HUNDREDS of boxes of files all over their homes.

None of the others were arrogant, stupid and narcissistic enough where they were playing show and tell with visitors (foreign nationals in some cases) that came to their homes either.

If this was ANYONE else in the world ........ they would be behind bars ........ but in Florida, trying to find 12 impartial people there will be IMPOSSIBLE.

Trump has NOTHING to worry about.

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by EZM

It doesn't matter that Trump, this time, is clearly up the creek legally. The difference between him and other politicians who had files at their homes is pretty stark in contrast - others had a handful of files, were open to surrendering the files when asked, without lying, obstructing or playing a dangerous game of hide and go seek with the FBI.

None of the others had to have the FBI raid their homes to get the files back.

None of the others had lied, in statements, to the FBI and none others had HUNDREDS of boxes of files all over their homes.

None of the others were arrogant, stupid and narcissistic enough where they were playing show and tell with visitors (foreign nationals in some cases) that came to their homes either.

If this was ANYONE else in the world ........ they would be behind bars ........ but in Florida, trying to find 12 impartial people there will be IMPOSSIBLE.

Trump has NOTHING to worry about.

Sorta like trying to find 12 impartial jurors in New York

[JD848]

Biden had loads of the same stuff Trump had that he took when he was Vice president stacked into his garage . I guess those don't count if your a DNC supporter or James Comey running to the press with stuff that was very classified. Years of leaks to the Washington posts that were never looked into .

Only difference is Biden forgot he had them ,ye right

All the corruption started in the USA when Trump wanted in, well BS to that

Only Trump has ever done crimes while being a politician , take the blinders off boys before you post crap .

They could hang Trump for all I care , but the USA made some of the biggest messes in history with there corruption and many are still in power ,Biden for one .

[270person]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

Sorta like trying to find 12 impartial jurors in New York

Says something when it's his home town huh? Like trying to find 12 contractors who built his hotels and resorts and didn't get hosed.

[EZM]

Originally Posted by JD848

Biden had loads of the same stuff Trump had that he took when he was Vice president stacked into his garage . I guess those don't count if your a DNC supporter or James Comey running to the press with stuff that was very classified. Years of leaks to the Washington posts that were never looked into .

Only difference is Biden forgot he had them ,ye right

All the corruption started in the USA when Trump wanted in, well BS to that

Only Trump has ever done crimes while being a politician , take the blinders off boys before you post crap .

They could hang Trump for all I care , but the USA made some of the biggest messes in history with there corruption and many are still in power ,Biden for one .

JD - you are not wrong about other politicians being crooks - but the reality is they didn't lie to the FBI, they didn't have nearly the amount of classified material, nor did any of them move stuff around in a clear attempt to play hide n go seek with the Feds. That was my point.

Yeah ..... many others were big time crooks - but Trump makes them look like like small time dime bag thugs.

That was my point, and it's fact and maybe you need to consider taking off the blinders a little yourself. This is clearly a way bigger deal here ....

That's how I see it anyways - just because others do something wrong, you doing the same thing or worse doesn't make it any less wrong.

Yeah, Trump is a target ..... but he has himself to blame on this one. The utter stupidity of this is spectacular.

And .... on a lighter note ..... you sure Biden didn't forget he had his documents? I doubt the guy could remember what he had for his snack at nap time this morning. Animal crackers and a grape juice box with a couple carrot sticks. The guy is so old and senile - he shouldn't buy green bananas.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by EZM

It doesn't matter that Trump, this time, is clearly up the creek legally. The difference between him and other politicians who had files at their homes is pretty stark in contrast - others had a handful of files, were open to surrendering the files when asked, without lying, obstructing or playing a dangerous game of hide and go seek with the FBI.

None of the others had to have the FBI raid their homes to get the files back.

None of the others had lied, in statements, to the FBI and none others had HUNDREDS of boxes of files all over their homes.

None of the others were arrogant, stupid and narcissistic enough where they were playing show and tell with visitors (foreign nationals in some cases) that came to their homes either.

If this was ANYONE else in the world ........ they would be behind bars ........ but in Florida, trying to find 12 impartial people there will be IMPOSSIBLE.

Trump has NOTHING to worry about.

The grand jury was from Florida.

It will be interesting but if he is found guilty he can’t blame New York.

[6.5 shooter]

Just easier to look across the fence into the neighbors yard to see what they did wrong. Might be a good time to look in our own back yard rather then complain about the neighbors? I am sure you could find one or two corrupt politicians right at home.

[barsik]

I think humanity has reached the point where politics and politicians have become a distinct liability to society. they do not serve for the good of the people of the left or the right, they have been the messengers of business and financial interests bringing the doctrine of servitude to the peasants. it has always been that way but now it is out in the open and quite obvious.

[raab]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Looking down at all his screw ups and legal woes he is clearly looking at a long term plan.

If he can delay the potential convictions until after the next election… technically he can’t pardon himself… however he can take a short medical leave… defer the presidency to his VP… then have the VP who is acting as president to pardon him. Then recover and re-assume the presidency with no chance of ever being convicted of anything pertaining to his business, his support of Jan 6 or his gross miss handling of secret documents.

His only hurdle is getting elected. I can see a path to him beating Biden… however it will be tough. Polarized politics in the US has widened.

He would strategically have been better off… supporting a more moderate Republican presidential nominee and then once the Republicans won to pardon Trump and take that noise off the table.

Some will scream it’s unfair that some are above the law however the US just needs to calm down.

Next is countries should try and find the best to run the country. It’s almost like a case of hot potato. No one wants the job and the potato gets tossed to someone shady. It’s a weird world of politics.

Trump is only being targeted because he called out the deep state also known as the Washington bureaucracy. No other President has had to deal with this nonsense despite doing far worse.

This is no longer about politics, it’s about saving the country. Either there’s a democracy and the bureaucrats follow the direction of elected officials. Or there’s no democracy, voters have no say in the matter and the bureaucracy does what it wants.

The same thing is happening in Canada. The bureaucrats think they’re untouchable. They want higher taxes on the everyday people of this country to fund their lavish lifestyles in Ottawa. It needs to stop.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...774737921?s=20
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...774737921?s=20
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/s...057219585?s=20

[Frank_NK28]

Well reading alot of the posts in here it's easy to see how we keep ending up with Trudeau...

[JD848]

Originally Posted by EZM

JD - you are not wrong about other politicians being crooks - but the reality is they didn't lie to the FBI, they didn't have nearly the amount of classified material, nor did any of them move stuff around in a clear attempt to play hide n go seek with the Feds. That was my point.

Yeah ..... many others were big time crooks - but Trump makes them look like like small time dime bag thugs.

That was my point, and it's fact and maybe you need to consider taking off the blinders a little yourself. This is clearly a way bigger deal here ....

That's how I see it anyways - just because others do something wrong, you doing the same thing or worse doesn't make it any less wrong.

Yeah, Trump is a target ..... but he has himself to blame on this one. The utter stupidity of this is spectacular.

And .... on a lighter note ..... you sure Biden didn't forget he had his documents? I doubt the guy could remember what he had for his snack at nap time this morning. Animal crackers and a grape juice box with a couple carrot sticks. The guy is so old and senile - he shouldn't buy green bananas.

The DNC has the FBI in there back pocket so there lies all come out as nothing.

What Biden did in removing troops from Afghanistan and having his own military service members killed for no reason at all leaving billions of weapons to weaponize ten terrorist groups makes this Trump deal look like a joke. Nothing so bad has ever went down by a sitting president ,not even Trump .There is no this or that about about making this act of criminal negligence against his own country and other countries who now have to deal with this whole weapons deal .Treason at it's highest level by the chief and commander and the FBI couldn't care less .So don't add this FBI crap like there all perfect .

But the haters like to polarize these classified paper deal and target Trump . Only one harming Trump is Trump, Biden is on coarse to destroy the whole USA and who does that harm ??? All of North America and it's allies ,Putin seen this a went for it and it's just beginning .

A stack of papers which I know is wrong or is ending a war in the worst way possible every in history less important , but since they use this idiot trip on Biden he stays in power .

The USA folks have there blinders off and they there military and everyone who has served got the worst slap in the face possible from Bidens blunder ,but Trump is in trouble big dam deal and the big fish to fry BS.LMAO

Biden should be locked up for his non working brain ,yet the haters would rather see a moron just as crooked as Trump run the country into the ground ,so this is where the blinders need to be remove .

How about Biden wanting the prosecutor fired before he gave the Ukraine there 1 billion bucks and in 6 hours a foreign vice president interfered with another counties legal system and Putin hated it .This fall out is why millions are at war over one of many things the DNC party has done to tick of Putin.

But oh dear god Trump hid some files which is very wrong ,but who gets targeted for the other crimes done by the DNC .Not one ,there clean as they come BS.

EZM I have always respected your opinion so you know this isn't personal ,always have liked you, but we can disagree .

Cheers
JD

[Reddin]

Originally Posted by Frank_NK28

Well reading alot of the posts in here it's easy to see how we keep ending up with Trudeau...

Yeah, if Trump still has a chance, anyone does.

[nelsonob1]

If Trump gets the republican nom, then the democrats win, it's that simple. Too many swing votes think he is nuts and dangerous.

[raab]

Originally Posted by nelsonob1

If Trump gets the republican nom, then the democrats win, it's that simple. Too many swing votes think he is nuts and dangerous.

Not in the US. Most Americans love him. I think our leftist MSM like CTV have many Canadians hoodwinked.

[AI 6.5]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

Doesn't matter who gets elected President, the US is screwed, you're just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Grizz

As opposed to Canada? You know what they say about people who live in glass houses.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by nelsonob1

If Trump gets the republican nom, then the democrats win, it's that simple. Too many swing votes think he is nuts and dangerous.

Think he is nuts and dangerous....huh....no thinking there.... he simply is!

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by raab

Trump is only being targeted because he called out the deep state also known as the Washington bureaucracy. No other President has had to deal with this nonsense despite doing far worse.

This is no longer about politics, it’s about saving the country. Either there’s a democracy and the bureaucrats follow the direction of elected officials. Or there’s no democracy, voters have no say in the matter and the bureaucracy does what it wants.

The same thing is happening in Canada. The bureaucrats think they’re untouchable. They want higher taxes on the everyday people of this country to fund their lavish lifestyles in Ottawa. It needs to stop.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...774737921?s=20
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...774737921?s=20
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/s...057219585?s=20

Did you read what he did with confidential information.

Is it a democracy if Trump can do what he wants and break the law when he wants? When he is more concerned about himself than the country?

He is a very smart entertainer who has fooled many.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by Frank_NK28

Well reading alot of the posts in here it's easy to see how we keep ending up with Trudeau...

How so?

[nelsonob1]

Originally Posted by raab

Not in the US. Most Americans love him. I think our leftist MSM like CTV have many Canadians hoodwinked.

Right. That's why he won in 2020.

[jungleboy]

If Trump gets the nomination the simplest path to victory for the Dems is to run a candidate who doesn’t have dementia.

He will beat Biden. But Biden is not going to be the guy regardless of what his dementia riddled mind tells him to tell America

Don’t get me wrong. I think Trump is being railroaded , but he keeps laying down the track. He is his own worst enemy.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

If Trump gets the nomination the simplest path to victory for the Dems is to run a candidate who doesn’t have dementia.

He will beat Biden. But Biden is not going to be the guy regardless of what his dementia riddled mind tells him to tell America

Don’t get me wrong. I think Trump is being railroaded , but he keeps laying down the track. He is his own worst enemy.

Yup just a bloody train wreck....

[EZM]

Originally Posted by JD848

The DNC has the FBI in there back pocket so there lies all come out as nothing.

What Biden did in removing troops from Afghanistan and having his own military service members killed for no reason at all leaving billions of weapons to weaponize ten terrorist groups makes this Trump deal look like a joke. Nothing so bad has ever went down by a sitting president ,not even Trump .There is no this or that about about making this act of criminal negligence against his own country and other countries who now have to deal with this whole weapons deal .Treason at it's highest level by the chief and commander and the FBI couldn't care less .So don't add this FBI crap like there all perfect .

UNFORTUNATELY .....you are wrong on one point you made and it was TRUMP who removed the troops from Afghanistan.

And, on that topic, I agree with your assessment of what that did and how that was, in fact treasonous.

Back to the topic ....

In this latest fiasco - Trump is so delusional and narcissistic that he thought he could blatantly break the law, lie to the FBI, and lie to the public garnering support as he once again whines about how he is the victim of some conspiracy. Listen to him cry about all these deep state conspiracies.

I am still amazed at how many blindly follow him and believe him and how the willing consume the crap he feeds them. This one is pretty black and white.

Time and time again it's the same story with him and yet nobody stops to think about how many times they have been lied to by him.

Trumps wounds here are self inflicted.

He is blinded by his sense of immunity and simply could have given up the documents that don't belong to him (like everyone else did) and that would have been the end of it.

Done. Forgotten.

But no, here we go again with more ridiculous antics as he cries about how he is being targeted ...... someone pooped in his diaper for him ..... it wasn't him ..... lol

If the guy was smart enough (as he claims) and thought the FBI was targeting them why did he, himself make himself an easy mark for them?

That's the act of a fool and someone who is not in control of his delusions.

Anyways ..... to me, it clear as day here.

The jury will be in Florida - so he will walk free anyways.

[Moe]

I'm so sick about hearing Trump crap dominate a discussion in Canada. He is not Canadian and who cares! The guy is a brilliant con artist and in the old days would have sold snake oil from a horse drawn wagon. What a joke!

[JD848]

Originally Posted by EZM

UNFORTUNATELY .....you are wrong on one point you made and it was TRUMP who removed the troops from Afghanistan.

And, on that topic, I agree with your assessment of what that did and how that was, in fact treasonous.

Back to the topic ....

In this latest fiasco - Trump is so delusional and narcissistic that he thought he could blatantly break the law, lie to the FBI, and lie to the public garnering support as he once again whines about how he is the victim of some conspiracy. Listen to him cry about all these deep state conspiracies.

I am still amazed at how many blindly follow him and believe him and how the willing consume the crap he feeds them. This one is pretty black and white.

Time and time again it's the same story with him and yet nobody stops to think about how many times they have been lied to by him.

Trumps wounds here are self inflicted.

He is blinded by his sense of immunity and simply could have given up the documents that don't belong to him (like everyone else did) and that would have been the end of it.

Done. Forgotten.

But no, here we go again with more ridiculous antics as he cries about how he is being targeted ...... someone pooped in his diaper for him ..... it wasn't him ..... lol

If the guy was smart enough (as he claims) and thought the FBI was targeting them why did he, himself make himself an easy mark for them?

That's the act of a fool and someone who is not in control of his delusions.

Anyways ..... to me, it clear as day here.

The jury will be in Florida - so he will walk free anyways.

Trump had started a plan to get out of Afghanistan and was long gone out of power when Your Idiot pal Biden made the final move on august 30 2021 ,Biden arranged this move and screwed up big time .Bidens watch makes IT his deal But I can see how Biden supporter get things mixed up. Then again TRUMP IS Guilty of Bidens criminal mistakes. Just like the wall was history on Bidens first day, Afghanistan was reorganized by the DNC and the PODUS Biden.


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You call him and idiot blah blah blah and the guy is clueless yet you defend a moron. One guy here says Trump is nuts and yes he is ,but the nut made it to be PODUS , much bigger then being the mayor from pinsky lake .

I'm not defending Trump and I could care less what happens to to him, but this FBI BS is a total joke.

Biden is the worst president every to hit the white house and Trump is as crooked as him, but at least Trump knows which day it is or where he is.

Trump does come out with some real weird crap ,but Trump has a higher IQ in his pinky the Biden has in his whole body and that isn't saying much for either one.

It's a shame to have 2 guys like that around and both need to get lost . For those that can't be bothered with USA politics they have no clue on what controls what.

Fear runs through the veins of all DNC supporters getting put to bed by an idiot with Zero experience in politics getting 80 million votes .

The only idiots were the ones who underestimated the guy ,that includes the DNC and all the crooked leo's who tried to stop him and couldn't ,that is the joke of the century . Plus there still trying ,I'm just LMAO with this gong show.

Don't blame the guy who out foxed them ,blame the ones who with countless years as politicians who let Trump slide in. Putin laughed so hard he blew a fuse.
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Biden hung every flag over the white house the other PRIDE ETC ,the only one missing was a poster of the village people and having them sing macho man in drag for him and Hunter along with a lap dance for DR BIDEN .


Cheers to all.
JD

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by JD848

Trump had started a plan to get out of Afghanistan and was long gone out of power when Your Idiot pal Biden made the final move on august 30 2021 ,Biden arranged this move and screwed up big time .Bidens watch makes IT his deal But I can see how Biden supporter get things mixed up. Then again TRUMP IS Guilty of Bidens criminal mistakes. Just like the wall was history on Bidens first day, Afghanistan was reorganized by the DNC and the PODUS Biden.


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You call him and idiot blah blah blah and the guy is clueless yet you defend a moron. One guy here says Trump is nuts and yes he is ,but the nut made it to be PODUS , much bigger then being the mayor from pinsky lake .

I'm not defending Trump and I could care less what happens to to him, but this FBI BS is a total joke.

Biden is the worst president every to hit the white house and Trump is as crooked as him, but at least Trump knows which day it is or where he is.

Trump does come out with some real weird crap ,but Trump has a higher IQ in his pinky the Biden has in his whole body and that isn't saying much for either one.

It's a shame to have 2 guys like that around and both need to get lost . For those that can't be bothered with USA politics they have no clue on what controls what.

Fear runs through the veins of all DNC supporters getting put to bed by an idiot with Zero experience in politics getting 80 million votes .

The only idiots were the ones who underestimated the guy ,that includes the DNC and all the crooked leo's who tried to stop him and couldn't ,that is the joke of the century . Plus there still trying ,I'm just LMAO with this gong show.

Don't blame the guy who out foxed them ,blame the ones who with countless years as politicians who let Trump slide in. Putin laughed so hard he blew a fuse.
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Biden hung every flag over the white house the other PRIDE ETC ,the only one missing was a poster of the village people and having them sing macho man in drag for him and Hunter along with a lap dance for DR BIDEN .


Cheers to all.
JD

You call Biden a moron and I agree Biden is far too old to be POTUS but the “moron” made it to be POTUS, much bigger then being the mayor from pinsky lake. Trump is better for Canadian trade and AB’s oil patch.

I’m not convinced Trump is that smart but he has a huge ego and charisma to sway people needing someone to follow.

I could not find an excuse to say Trump should of had classified documents in his possession. He is on tape saying his documents weren’t declassified and that he can’t do it after leaving office. Showing it off points to ego.

With the information provided it appears he is a megalomaniac… that he feels it’s his right to be President and the democratic vote doesn’t matter. Biden beat him by 7 million votes. Each subsequent election saw the republicans lose ground.

Trump is morally reprehensible to the extent it exceeds his virtues by a wide margin.

Not accepting the election shows he would have no issues being a dictator as he seems to admire dictators. Fortunately enough people stood strong for democracy.

I get the senile perception of Biden now a days. However the same applies to Trump but he has a more dangerous form of senility.

The US needs a competent leader. Will they vote for one? Unlikely.

As for Afghanistan… Trump pulled out most of the troops. Biden hardly had many left in country. Safer to remove the rest and Biden tried to stall and was way past the deadline Trump had agreed to. Afghanistan wasn’t Biden’s fault. Pulling out was Trumps decision. That all said… no length of time in Afghanistan was going to change the culture of following elders. There are many people blinding following Trump and ignoring all his problems. Those folks are very similar politically to the Afghan population.

[tirebob]

Giant circle thread saying all the same things over and over... Nothing new to see.