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Why in Canada can a dairy farmer NOT sell ALL the milk his herd produces every day ? Why do Canadian dairy farmers dump thousands if dollars of fresh milk down the sewer daily ?
If you can answere this question ? Then you can also understand why there is an issue with the USA dairy producers
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I agree.
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04-21-2017, 11:37 AM
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Here is an easy way to form an opinion,
A gallon of 2% milk in Wash State about $2.75
4litres of 2% milk in major centres in BC or Alberta about $4.85
Other cheese and dairy also are about double or more in Canada than USA
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04-21-2017, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by elkdump
Here is an easy way to form an opinion,
A gallon of 2% milk in Wash State about $2.75
4litres of 2% milk in major centres in BC or Alberta about $4.85
Other cheese and dairy also are about double or more in Canada than USA
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Look at the price in rural areas in the north or fuel prices .... just about everything is cheaper, supply and demand and transport costs influence pricing also. Do you think that Trump is going to lower prices in anything in Canada? If yes I'm curious how.
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04-21-2017, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by fitzy
In your case maybe. I get being anti Hillary. Take the lesser of 2 evils and that.
Lots around here who thought and still do think he's the next coming of Christ
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Ah yes, the blind worshipers of "The Great And Almighty Trump". Up until recently, this forum was infested with them.
Where are they now? 
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04-21-2017, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fitzy
Look at the price in rural areas in the north or fuel prices .... just about everything is cheaper, supply and demand and transport costs influence pricing also. Do you think that Trump is going to lower prices in anything in Canada? If yes I'm curious how.
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In Canada dairy product pricing has little to do with supply and demand !!
* But dairy pricing in Canada has EVERYTHING to do with artificially high prices set by a obsolete quota system which has producers addicted to Canadian Government handouts like street junkies to heroin ,
Canadian dairy retail prices kept outrageously high so dairy producers keep in quota and cannot excel or expand on their own merit, but rather languish in Government protectionism,
I believe the number is about 300% tariff/import cost on USA dairy products coming into Canada ,
New Zealand cattle and dairy producers had to abandon the old system and stand on their own MERIT/be COMPETITIVE, learn to be cost effective and compete in a global economy, now New Zealand has become a Global Titan in meat production,
Trump has nothing to do with lowering the retail Price of dairy products in Canada other than demanding that Canadian farms stop being subsidized and propped up be the Canadian taxpayer ( via Govt handouts and import tariffs)
As for talking fuel prices, you better get aware
reg gas in Edmonton $0.98
Reg gas in Vancouver $1.359
I believe Edmonton is about 1100 km north of Vancouver
Dallas Tx , reg gas $2.14 USD per USA gallon, about $0.75c US a ltr,,,,  and THEY buy our OIL !
Ever feel like your but got reamed? Just keep encouraging Canadian politicians,,,
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He is just showin the world that he is as big a dick as they we figured he was .
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04-21-2017, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by elkdump
Here is an easy way to form an opinion,
A gallon of 2% milk in Wash State about $2.75
4litres of 2% milk in major centres in BC or Alberta about $4.85
Other cheese and dairy also are about double or more in Canada than USA
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When I need milk - which is only for the grand children - I'd still rather pay $7 or $8 for a jug of some Canadian organic milk then a couple of bucks for some white antibiotic laced cow pus and p!ss liquid crap from the Americans.
And Organic milk tastes better than non organic.
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04-21-2017, 03:11 PM
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Isn't this the same target Obama had set his sights on?
The things Obama didn't want you to know....
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04-21-2017, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JimPS
When I need milk - which is only for the grand children - I'd still rather pay $7 or $8 for a jug of some Canadian organic milk then a couple of bucks for some white antibiotic laced cow pus and p!ss liquid crap from the Americans.
And Organic milk tastes better than non organic.
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It is funny how some people are so uninformed about agriculture , isn`t it ??  Maybe do some research ?? The internet is at your finger tips. 
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04-21-2017, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by elkdump
In Canada dairy product pricing has little to do with supply and demand !!
* But dairy pricing in Canada has EVERYTHING to do with artificially high prices set by a obsolete quota system which has producers addicted to Canadian Government handouts like street junkies to heroin ,
Canadian dairy retail prices kept outrageously high so dairy producers keep in quota and cannot excel or expand on their own merit, but rather languish in Government protectionism,
I believe the number is about 300% tariff/import cost on USA dairy products coming into Canada ,
New Zealand cattle and dairy producers had to abandon the old system and stand on their own MERIT/be COMPETITIVE, learn to be cost effective and compete in a global economy, now New Zealand has become a Global Titan in meat production,
Trump has nothing to do with lowering the retail Price of dairy products in Canada other than demanding that Canadian farms stop being subsidized and propped up be the Canadian taxpayer ( via Govt handouts and import tariffs)
As for talking fuel prices, you better get aware
reg gas in Edmonton $0.98
Reg gas in Vancouver $1.359
I believe Edmonton is about 1100 km north of Vancouver
Dallas Tx , reg gas $2.14 USD per USA gallon, about $0.75c US a ltr,,,, and THEY buy our OIL !
Ever feel like your but got reamed? Just keep encouraging Canadian politicians,,, |
Right on ! 
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04-21-2017, 06:26 PM
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Did he milk a wisconsin bull, as a photo op?
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04-21-2017, 07:11 PM
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Did he milk a wisconsin bull, as a photo op?
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No but he grabbed a few cows by the .......
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04-21-2017, 08:45 PM
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Ah yes, the blind worshipers of "The Great And Almighty Trump". Up until recently, this forum was infested with them.
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My thoughts exactly........
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04-21-2017, 10:51 PM
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So tell me again how Canadian regulations are putting Wisconsin dairy farmers out of business?
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Either Global National or fake news CBC interviewed some of those Wisconsin dairy farmers, even they were scratching their heads over his comments
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04-21-2017, 10:58 PM
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Going after Canada's supply management system is not a new initiative. The gov't has had to work hard to protect/exempt it in every trade negotiation they have entered into. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle25102825/
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04-21-2017, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by does it ALL outdoors
Either Global National or fake news CBC interviewed some of those Wisconsin dairy farmers, even they were scratching their heads over his comments
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I wonder if it might have something to do with large corporations of farmer owned dairy cooperatives using their guaranteed profits from the closed system to buy up production facilities and control marketing in other countries - Agropur owns 12 locations in the US, 4 of which are in Wisconsin.
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04-22-2017, 12:07 AM
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Ah yes, the blind worshipers of "The Great And Almighty Trump". Up until recently, this forum was infested with them.
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Best Quote I've seen in weeks ...... I agree
All the Trump supporters spouting out excuses for his ignorant, uneducated lies, self centred ego maniacal rants and bigotry have lost all credibility. They look like absolute fools and complete brainless morons making excuses for such a trainwreck. I love watching these guys stammer and try and deflect ...... Sean Spicer has destroyed himself and won't be trusted to manage a 7-11 after Trump is out of office.
He is going to do nothing for international trade and relations.
Good Trade and Good Relations are dependent on deals that are mutually beneficial - they are not those deals which hold hostage trading partners by making them captive to you.
The US will benefit in the short term and celebrate the short sighted prosperity. Go 'Merica the brainless lemmings will chant.
His former (and captive) trade partners will eventually wean themselves from the dependency of America and find a new path themselves with new partners with new new beneficial trade partners.
He is just too stupid to realise that. The long term effect will be damaging and much harder to reverse and will take decades to repair the damage one administration, of his rich friends and the royal Trump family will do in 4 years.
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04-22-2017, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JimPS
When I need milk - which is only for the grand children - I'd still rather pay $7 or $8 for a jug of some Canadian organic milk then a couple of bucks for some white antibiotic laced cow pus and p!ss liquid crap from the Americans.
And Organic milk tastes better than non organic.
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because canadian milk isnt laced with these things you mention?? one really has to love the blinders that patriotism creates.
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orangy is a dumb *****!
He is just ranting to take the some of the heat off of the North Korea situation. Next week he will have something different.
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04-22-2017, 10:50 AM
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I mentioned this earlier. Obama was threatening to do the same thing as Trump.
But when Obama does it in secret, that's ok. 
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04-22-2017, 10:54 AM
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The guy leading the Conservative race Max Bernier wants to break up the milk boards to. It's been talked about for years, first time many heard of it apparently. When Obama was running in 2008 he also wanted to rip up Nafta, again short memories.
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04-22-2017, 11:06 AM
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So tell me again how Canadian regulations are putting Wisconsin dairy farmers out of business?
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Canadian Dairy has an ultra filtered product the States dont offer I guess. So a lot of cheese makers are buying Canadian milk instead of American. Also have cartels to manage the supply, which interferes with free trade. It works good for farmers, but keeps the cost of dairy milk higher then it should be.
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milk production
more infos from CBC about this topic
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/dairy-f...rump-1.4081391
quoting "Wisconsin alone has more milk cows than in all of Canada". there is the problem!
I think egg or milk production should regulated to prevent overproduction...
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Does this mean that the love in with Trump is over?
Has the proclamation on AO of him being the chosen one need a little rethinking. Is Trump worship a thing of the past.?
I think that the USA should work on impeaching Trump or they risk having the next and worst world dictator.
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04-22-2017, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by covey ridge
Does this mean that the love in with Trump is over?
Has the proclamation on AO of him being the chosen one need a little rethinking. Is Trump worship a thing of the past.?
I think that the USA should work on impeaching Trump or they risk having the next and worst world dictator.
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Anyone with half a brain knew he was going to be bad for Canada. Wait till he drops the tax rate in the States. We're in for a world of hurt with the socialists in power.
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04-22-2017, 12:56 PM
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Trump is a businessman and he is still in business just for himself. I hope that Trump does not start a war before he gets turfed. American politics need to take off their blind folds and protect their democracy.
Trump seems to be surrounded by people who just will not admit that the President is Stupid.
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It's smoke and mirrors, blame Canada for a problem that is of their own making. It sounds better to his acolytes. Somehow he doesn't see the irony of his own 'America First' policy, and blaming Canada for it's 'disgusting' protectionist policy. Pot, kettle. The man doesn't come off as particularly brilliant sometimes.
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Anyone with half a brain knew he was going to be bad for Canada. Wait till he drops the tax rate in the States. We're in for a world of hurt with the socialists in power.
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I am now confused regarding which "half-a-brain" pundits are truly knowledgeable?
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There is a definite lack of fanboys present. Is Breitbart news having a free trial?
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