New study on CWD.

[pikergolf]

Article discussing study on spreading to humans.

https://chatnewstoday.ca/2021/07/15/...research-says/

[coxy95]

Well I would assume after reading that, it's going to be another mass slaughter this fall, which is probably why they've delayed the mule deer results.

[buckman]

Not sure if I would eat the meat of a prairie animal anymore,tested or not.
Can only hope this never jumps over to Cattle, God knows what may happen then.

[Pathfinder76]

How do people read these studies and come to the conclusion this is jumping to humans? So far we have ZERO evidence this can happen.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by chuck

How do people read these studies and come to the conclusion this is jumping to humans? So far we have ZERO evidence this can happen.

I don't think anyone said it was jumping to humans, just that it was a distinct possibility. I would be more worried about cattle, that would be devastating.

[7magtime]

It mentions that there have been no cases of cattle contracting it from wild ungulates so far.
I'm unfamiliar with cattle disease testing. Since CWD showed up in Alberta, are Alberta cattle regularly tested for CWD if they die of natural causes or before slaughter?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by chuck

How do people read these studies and come to the conclusion this is jumping to humans? So far we have ZERO evidence this can happen.

So would you eat a positive deer? I said wouldn't risk it, totally up to the individual to make their choice,this happens to be mine.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by chuck

How do people read these studies and come to the conclusion this is jumping to humans? So far we have ZERO evidence this can happen.

It’s funny. The mule buck we shot in 206 tested positive. I had a lengthy conversation with the PhD at the U of A who oversees the testing program. A number of times during our conversation, she stressed that there is no evidence that it has ever jumped to humans. She neither recommended eating it or disposing of it, but simply gave instructions to dispose of it properly if we chose to do so. I disposed of it, but to be honest we ate a few steaks off it before we got the test results. They were delicious. To my knowledge, I have not started stumbling, losing weight, or frothing at the mouth.

[Simplefarmer]

When there is restrictions placed on commercial processing facility to deny the processing of deer, elk and moose, I will start to worry. The process to clean and disinfect these facilities currently does not come close to destroying the prion, cross contamination I am sure is there.

Regarding another possible slaughter / cull, good luck as many land owners will never allow this to happen again.

Jim

[Ticdoc]

Originally Posted by buckman

Not sure if I would eat the meat of a prairie animal anymore,tested or not.
Can only hope this never jumps over to Cattle, God knows what may happen then.

Major longterm experimentally infected cattle with cwd showed the following and I quote
"None of these results, taken individually or together, support a diagnosis of TSE in cattle inoculated orally with a high dose of infectious CWD material or continually exposed by cohabitation with infected deer or elk, or transmission from contaminated premises despite an incubation period of up to 10 or 11 years."

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by sns2

It’s funny. The mule buck we shot in 206 tested positive. I had a lengthy conversation with the PhD at the U of A who oversees the testing program. A number of times during our conversation, she stressed that there is no evidence that it has ever jumped to humans. She neither recommended eating it or disposing of it, but simply gave instructions to dispose of it properly if we chose to do so. I disposed of it, but to be honest we ate a few steaks off it before we got the test results. They were delicious. To my knowledge, I have not started stumbling, losing weight, or frothing at the mouth.

So far it is a tidal wave in a tin cup.

[marky_mark]

If it’s so bad then why are there still a ton of elk and mule deer in Colorado?

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

If it’s so bad then why are there still a ton of elk and mule deer in Colorado?

From what I was told the effects don’t kick in until the animal is 7 years old.

[wildalberta]

Ive eaten 2 positive deer entirely. First one results came in like april after it was ate up, from a deer given to me off wainwright and i didnt even think about it testing for cwd. After that i no longer cared and ive had another test positive after the fact. Both mature mulie bucks completly deboned and ground up into edible meat lol.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by marky_mark

If it’s so bad then why are there still a ton of elk and mule deer in Colorado?

Better habitat,better management,no native unregulated hunting,far fewer wolves and the list goes on.

[Buckhorn2]

Chances are pretty high we have all ate a cwd deer.


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[Redneck 7]

Originally Posted by Buckhorn2

Chances are pretty high we have all ate a cwd deer.


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That’s the way I see it, if anyone has shot a deer in the east side of Alberta. Odds are good they’ve ate it.

[Pioneer2]

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/spreadin...says-1.5510883

[robfraser]

Originally Posted by chuck

How do people read these studies and come to the conclusion this is jumping to humans? So far we have ZERO evidence this can happen.

In England the government said BSE or mad cow which is a prion disease would not transmit to humans.
They were wrong and it did.

[robfraser]

Yale University did autopsy’s on 44 Alzheimer’s patients.
13% had CJD.

[Pioneer2]

Government wouldn't lie to you. Game ranching was a great idea wasn't it ? Will the game survey still be mandatory when there's no game game left to hunt?

[goldscud]

Lots of folks yelled that game farming would just create a hot spot of disease, including Val Geist It is no surprise the transporting dirty breeding stock around the globe would be a great vector for contaminants to captive and wild animals. Now we live the result so that the few who were connected well to the government could make a buck.

[robfraser]

A Colorado state biologist believes a nutritional study he conducted with deer, sheep and goats in the late 1960’s might have been the genesis of CWD.
Gene Schooveld suspects some of the sheep in his study had scrapie a relative of CWD.
Some of the deer in his study might have become infected with scrapie, which mutated into CWD and spread to other deer.
The deer and sheep were penned together from 1968 to 1971.

[ehrgeiz]

Yeah the real kicker would be the fact that all butchers have probably seen CWD positive deer hit their table and as suggested by another poster the prions are not destroyed by conventional disinfectant or sterilization.

It's probably fair to suggest that if you have ever had game processed at a butcher and consumed the meat you have likely been exposed to the prions which cause CWD.

It's a bummer, but in for a penny in for a pound, right?

[Pioneer2]

Originally Posted by goldscud

Lots of folks yelled that game farming would just create a hot spot of disease, including Val Geist It is no surprise the transporting dirty breeding stock around the globe would be a great vector for contaminants to captive and wild animals. Now we live the result so that the few who were connected well to the government could make a buck.

Originally didn't CWD get brought into Alberta from a Saskatchewan game farm?

[saskbooknut]

As I understand, CWD was first reported in Saskatchewan,in captive Elk imported from Colorado.

[goldscud]

CWD was first found on several elk farms in Saskatchewan in 2001. Following this, 7,500 elk, 100 bison, 250 cattle and 50 white-tailed deer were destroyed. This cost at least $20 million in taxpayer compensation for destroyed animals, and more for cleanup and carcass disposal. The first case of CWD in Alberta was found in March 2002 on a farm in northern Alberta.

And then the story continues....

[7magtime]

So there's rumours of another major wild deer cull but no mention of deer and elk farms being shut down yet?
At what point will the government decide these farms are not worth the money they bring in based on the tax payers money spent on controlling the diseases they've spread to the wild population??
As well as the loss of deer/elk to all Alberta hunters that succumb to CWD and government culls?
It's so frustrating that this game farm issue has been addressed so many times and just keeps getting swept under the rug by our government.

Article from 2018.....

https://www.okotoksonline.com/local/...e-game-farming

[thumper]

Well hysterics over Covid are dying down, and Murder Hornets didn't seem to panic too many people, - what fear factor can we use to fill the 6 o'clock news ? Let's try CWD *may* kill you.....

I'll park that fear right behind getting hit by a meteorite.

[Pioneer2]

Two more weeks to flatten the curve.