OILERS 2021 Thread!!!!!!The Cup Cometh!!! - Page 13

elk eater · #**361** 01-26-2021, 08:15 PM

So your up 3-2 on the road getting your chances. Good effort from the third line for the first time in ever and the coach decides to Bring out the blender to start the third period ?? I do not understand.

RandyBoBandy · #**362** 01-26-2021, 08:17 PM

elk eater · #**363** 01-26-2021, 08:20 PM

Randy is that the poster from your bedroom

RandyBoBandy · #**364** 01-26-2021, 08:25 PM

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Randy is that the poster from your bedroom

No but we had to lighten up tonight's thread

Still a Farrah Fawcett poster from the 80's..The 1980's

elk eater · #**365** 01-26-2021, 08:32 PM

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No but we had to lighten up tonight's thread

I don’t know that 3rd period was a lightly played joke.

Mr Flyguy · #**366** 01-26-2021, 08:32 PM

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Where the heck are the moderators on this thread?

elk eater · #**367** 01-26-2021, 08:35 PM

So again McDavid and Dri called upon to save the day. Down by 2 and you throw them out there and they net a quick one.

How do you follow that up ? Throw the snakebite crew out there for a shift. I know they were buzzing but no finish.

Would have made more sense to call a time out and run the dynamic duo again.

brendan's dad · #**368** 01-26-2021, 08:43 PM

Defensive coverage in the 3rd was terrible. Bear looks like he has no confidence and isn't sure where to go... I see more press box time in his future. Oiler aren't going to get anywhere winning every second game.

RandyBoBandy · #**369** 01-26-2021, 09:10 PM

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Defensive coverage in the 3rd was terrible. Bear looks like he has no confidence and isn't sure where to go... I see more press box time in his future. Oiler aren't going to get anywhere winning every second game.

Ah, he got a big fat raise...easy street for him, from now on

1899b · #**370** 01-27-2021, 06:26 AM

No depth. 5 4 with 1:50 left and all you have to put out is Neal and Kassian because you just bagged Mcjesus and the Kraut for a solid two minutes.
Trade Draisatl and get some balance or have two superstars and no team.
Do it before Mcdavid asks for a trade. I’m still waiting for this team to build around the second coming. It’s been 6 years...

58thecat · #**371** 01-27-2021, 06:51 AM

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Bessie...you stud you....

Gerald J · #**372** 01-27-2021, 07:32 AM

Kyle Turris is now -8 on the season.

brendan's dad · #**373** 01-27-2021, 07:58 AM

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Kyle Turris is now -8 on the season.

I am not sure yet if Turris is the problem, are the guys that are flanking him.

Also, I like Tippett, but what hell was the rational for inserting JJ and Russell into the line-up? We won the last game.

The whole "they have been working hard on the Taxi-Squad and deserve a chance..." is peewee mentality. They are on the Taxi-Squad for reason, and only should be used if someone is really under performing or injured.

Shore was 1 of the only guys I really trusted on the 4th line and was doing a good job killing penalties.

coyotecaller · #**374** 01-27-2021, 08:23 AM

After watching last night, I’ve come to the conclusion that nobody on that team can play with Mcdavid. The guy is just so quick, that’s he’s 3 steps ahead of everybody. And when he gives them the puck, they’re scared/excited and don’t know what to do. Puljarvi had chances but frick, the guy cant stand up. He sure falls down lots. And watching Barrie is like watching atom player whose parents told him he should be in tier 1, but only in tier 3. The guy gets passes then skates right back to where he got the pass from. Unreal. Shoot the puck! Put Nurse on the top PP unit, he likes to shoot the puck. You can see the frustration on Mcdavid after every shift. As he goes, the oilers go.
That team needs to watch Crosby play. Sid makes the easy simple play and guys find space, he gets them the puck and they score. The Oilers think they need to make that second or third pass. Shoot the puck!

1899b · #**375** 01-27-2021, 09:47 AM

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After watching last night, I’ve come to the conclusion that nobody on that team can play with Mcdavid. The guy is just so quick, that’s he’s 3 steps ahead of everybody. And when he gives them the puck, they’re scared/excited and don’t know what to do. Puljarvi had chances but frick, the guy cant stand up. He sure falls down lots. And watching Barrie is like watching atom player whose parents told him he should be in tier 1, but only in tier 3. The guy gets passes then skates right back to where he got the pass from. Unreal. Shoot the puck! Put Nurse on the top PP unit, he likes to shoot the puck. You can see the frustration on Mcdavid after every shift. As he goes, the oilers go.
That team needs to watch Crosby play. Sid makes the easy simple play and guys find space, he gets them the puck and they score. The Oilers think they need to make that second or third pass. Shoot the puck!

Spot on assessment

Walleyedude · #**376** 01-27-2021, 10:52 AM

That game was tough to take.

Good start in the first, but a dumb penalty and a bad call, combined with some pretty shoddy work on the PK, and it was still a game when it shouldn't have been. They got outworked in the 2nd, but held on. Three defensive lapses in a span of 4 minutes cost you the game in the 3rd. Turris and Bear need to watch the tape and learn from it, Neal was puck watching too. McDavid was there, but he needs to tie up the stick. Barrie is quickly playing himself out of town, and that's incredibly disappointing.

Koskinen was OK, I'd love for him to stop one of those goals to keep it closer, but it's definitely not his fault in my opinion. He did make some big saves.

I think McDavid is hard to play with. He's on another level, and he's unpredictable, but at the same time he isn't, just keep your damn stick on the ice and be ready. As the saying goes, play like you're always expecting the puck. If they just bury even 50% of the Grade A scoring chances he's creating, that's 1-2 more goals a game.

They should have won that game last night handily. If Kassian buries even one of the 4 Grade A chances he had, Puljujarvi cashes in, Neal hits an open net, and on and on, the momentum changes, they go up by 3 or 4, and the game is over.

As for trading Draisaitl, same old same old.

Show me the second 6 out for any team in the NHL where there isn't a huge drop off in talent. Other than maybe 3-4 elite teams, that's a simple fact of life in the NHL. I would have preferred a timeout and sending one of the most elite top 6's in the NHL back out, but eventually, the next 6 have to step up.

Talking moose · #**377** 01-27-2021, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by coyotecaller

After watching last night, I’ve come to the conclusion that nobody on that team can play with Mcdavid. The guy is just so quick, that’s he’s 3 steps ahead of everybody. And when he gives them the puck, they’re scared/excited and don’t know what to do. Puljarvi had chances but frick, the guy cant stand up. He sure falls down lots. And watching Barrie is like watching atom player whose parents told him he should be in tier 1, but only in tier 3. The guy gets passes then skates right back to where he got the pass from. Unreal. Shoot the puck! Put Nurse on the top PP unit, he likes to shoot the puck. You can see the frustration on Mcdavid after every shift. As he goes, the oilers go.
That team needs to watch Crosby play. Sid makes the easy simple play and guys find space, he gets them the puck and they score. The Oilers think they need to make that second or third pass. Shoot the puck!

Well Drai can play with him. That’s proven. But that’s the problem. Split the talent onto 2 lines or stack one. Ultimately 2 would be better but I think the team is a two man show still. Keep them together. They feed off each other. Frustrating.

Walleyedude · #**378** 01-27-2021, 11:04 AM

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I am not sure yet if Turris is the problem, are the guys that are flanking him.

Also, I like Tippett, but what hell was the rational for inserting JJ and Russell into the line-up? We won the last game.

The whole "they have been working hard on the Taxi-Squad and deserve a chance..." is peewee mentality. They are on the Taxi-Squad for reason, and only should be used if someone is really under performing or injured.

Shore was 1 of the only guys I really trusted on the 4th line and was doing a good job killing penalties.

I haven't been impressed by Turris. Maybe my expectations/hopes were too high, but I'm starting to realize why Nashville is paying him NOT to play hockey there. They brought him in to provide some offense on the 3rd line, I'm not seeing it. What I'm seeing is very little offensive production and a lack of defensive ability to make up for it.

Personally, I like the moves by Tippett. Just because they won, doesn't mean that certain players weren't getting it done individually. Taxi squad to the 4th line, or even the 3rd line, is a wash in my opinion, they're interchangeable, none of those guys are locks to be in the lineup. Competition is a good thing, and I'm 100% on board with Tippett playing the guys that are "hungry" and sitting the guys that aren't getting it done.

I thought Russel played well and deserves a longer look. I like his size and his compete level, especially for a 4th line guy. He played a solid game in his limited ice time, and in my opinion, he's a better option for that role than Ennis.

My thoughts on Khaira are well documented lol. Shore's play was slipping, but 100% agree that he should have stayed in. I'm really hoping Haas is getting close. He's not flashy, but I trust him to play the right way.

elk eater · #**379** 01-27-2021, 12:32 PM

I think it’s time to move Dri up to the wing on the first line with McDavid. The two of them together can out produce any line thrown at them in the NHL. Move Nuge down to centre the 2nd line with Yamamoto and Kahun. If your go to is playing Dri and McD to try and win a game when your down cause they are great together then why not play them on the first shift together and bury teams early.

Nuge is defensively responsible And would be a decent second line centre on many teams. Yamamoto plays well above his weight class and can most certainly produce chances with Nuge too.

huntsfurfish · #**380** 01-27-2021, 01:28 PM

Personally I think they are improving each game. If they buried some of those early chances it would have very likely been a different outcome.

Need to work on coverage still and realize game is 60 minutes not 40.

Not happy with some of the play but not gonna panic yet.

Walleyedude · #**381** 01-27-2021, 03:49 PM

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Personally I think they are improving each game. If they buried some of those early chances it would have very likely been a different outcome.

Need to work on coverage still and realize game is 60 minutes not 40.

Not happy with some of the play but not gonna panic yet.

Yep. I get mad and probably over-analyze and get overly critical, but the fact is, I'm right there with you.

This north division is going to be crazy close, and so far, other than a really bad showing against what's proving to be a very good MTL team, the Oilers have proved to be competitive. A few more dominant periods like they've shown they can play, a couple less mental errors a game, and most of all, some puck luck to get their shooting percentage back up to average, and the ship will be righted.

They need to at least get the split with TOR, and then hopefully they can do like a few others, and bank some points against OTT. If they do that, they're right in it. Every game counts, but yeah, definitely not time to panic.

Twisted Canuck · #**382** 01-27-2021, 03:57 PM

I'm almost ready to put down $20 on the Oilers winning the cup, now that the lines are all squared away here.

bessiedog · #**383** 01-27-2021, 04:36 PM

Dude.... are you high?

So here’s my sober scoop.

It all boils down to the same old..... we got NO 1 and 2 NHL quality defensemen. Full stop.

We got high quality 3rd and fourth pairing guys..... mebe a couple could do light light minutes 2nd pairing....

And we’re makin due.

So it’s either EVERYONE who’s a forward play as a defensive forward specialist (annoying for mcD and Drai) or.... well.... we leak chances.

And that’s exactly what’s been happening.

Our D can’t handle excellent forwards that can cycle or work behind the net.

And our forwards won’t check the swoops into the high danger hash mark 20 foot areas enough.

When our forwards do..... we have a chance.... punchers chance.

Last year our Power Play hid a HELz of a lot of bad defense.

Tyson Barrie was NOT what we needed. We need a first pairing D... and a good second pairing D that could play up.

We don’t even have Kleffy......

It’s either D by committee or we’re done!

Having said that..... if Kass scored or Neal.... game changes totally and we’d have banked 2 points an I could be mocking TC n Trochu...

But alas..... imma just be quiet and go hike wit doggo now......

Go Oil!!!!!

Rig-Rat · #**384** 01-27-2021, 04:58 PM

So what's the move next game for goal? I get Koskinen is the man but at this point, I would think you have to give him a night off. Not only for the rest, but his confidence has got to be getting low after that showing yesterday, even if no fault of his own.

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elk eater · #**385** 01-27-2021, 05:22 PM

You leave Kosk in net for Toronto and with any luck he performs well in both games. If you gonna go to the back up it might as well be against Ottawa. No need to throw him in front of an offensive juggernaut that is TO.

Walleyedude · #**386** 01-27-2021, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bessiedog

Dude.... are you high?

So here’s my sober scoop.

It all boils down to the same old..... we got NO 1 and 2 NHL quality defensemen. Full stop.

We got high quality 3rd and fourth pairing guys..... mebe a couple could do light light minutes 2nd pairing....

And we’re makin due.

So it’s either EVERYONE who’s a forward play as a defensive forward specialist (annoying for mcD and Drai) or.... well.... we leak chances.

And that’s exactly what’s been happening.

Our D can’t handle excellent forwards that can cycle or work behind the net.

And our forwards won’t check the swoops into the high danger hash mark 20 foot areas enough.

When our forwards do..... we have a chance.... punchers chance.

Last year our Power Play hid a HELz of a lot of bad defense.

Tyson Barrie was NOT what we needed. We need a first pairing D... and a good second pairing D that could play up.

We don’t even have Kleffy......

It’s either D by committee or we’re done!

Having said that..... if Kass scored or Neal.... game changes totally and we’d have banked 2 points an I could be mocking TC n Trochu...

But alas..... imma just be quiet and go hike wit doggo now......

Go Oil!!!!!

Hard to argue with that Bessie. I think you nailed it. The problem is far more glaring when the 3rd and 4th lines are on the ice.

Klefbom had a lot of haters, especially a few on AO, but his value as a legit top pairing guy is becoming painfully obvious. Nurse is not that guy, and Bear is a 2nd year guy punching above his weight but still out of his weight class. Totally agree on Barrie, the silver lining is it’s a one year deal.

Help is coming on the back end, but it’s gonna take time. Time no one really has at this point... True 1A D men are like hens teeth, the kings ransom needed to acquire one, either by trade or FA, is a tough pill to swallow. It might come down to patience or one of those guys being an early bloomer.

If you read any other fan pages and groups, they’re all clamouring for a top paring D man, a legit #1 goalie, and a 1st line forward or two. There aren’t many lineups without holes. There’s a lot of parity in the NHL, especially in the north division. Everyone’s got a chance every night.

coyotecaller · #**387** 01-27-2021, 05:33 PM

Competition fir a backup goalie is extreme right now. The leafs lost their No.2 for a good time. They’ll be in the hunt but they have Hutchinson. Edmonton is in trouble I think. The waiver wire will be hot for 2 Canadian teams. And if they do grab one, he might have to quarantine for two weeks. Taxi squad goalies are a hot commodity right now.
I agree, role Mac and Leon every other shift and let teams try to keep up.

elk eater · #**388** 01-27-2021, 06:32 PM

Tired of the Defense thing. Who gives a crap anymore. It’s not gonna change this year and I want to see goals. I say let Dri and McDavid light it up !!!!! Our Defense and goalie suck and we let in in 6 goals great perfect 2 less than then the dynamic duo scored cause they combined for 8. Time to play some 80’s hockey.

Twisted Canuck · #**389** 01-27-2021, 06:39 PM

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Tired of the Defense thing. Who gives a crap anymore. It’s not gonna change this year and I want to see goals. I say let Dri and McDavid light it up !!!!! Our Defense and goalie suck and we let in in 6 goals great perfect 2 less than then the dynamic duo scored cause they combined for 8. Time to play some 80’s hockey.

Yes!! Finally, a winning plan!!

But you gotta get Bessie to sign off on it. Good luck, I really see the potential, finally, after 6 years McD is going to get turned loose! This totally stinks of a Cup win!!

bessiedog · #**390** 01-27-2021, 06:55 PM

Uh.... I was there for those hi flying games.

Problem is.... you play fire wagon hockey with:

Montreal... we’ll lose cause they can wheel too
Toronto...... same
Winnipeg...... same same
The Nucks... same same same

We’d kill Calgary with that strategy and we’d destroy Ottawa.....

Gotta be better than three teams to make it to the show boys...
Plan won’t work.