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02-21-2017, 11:58 PM
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White tail antler Characteristics Inherited?
Is it possible to figure out what bucks are related in a certain area due to specific antler Characteristics.
Ie. Brow Tine blades, inward vs outward bending brow tines, drop tines etc.. I have picked up several different year class sheds, where there are distinct features similar. ( all this year's sheds) so I am sure it isn't the same deer just an old set.
Are these certain things passed down from generation to generation?
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02-22-2017, 12:05 AM
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I wouldnt go as far as saying I could know for sure that one animal is related to another, but within smaller areas you can see certain configurations show up frequently. In my bowhunting spot i see normal, clean 4x4s and high narrow 5x5s. Of course there will be variation, some bucks really put on the miles looking for tail, or get moved around by other factors. A buddy has several elk with the same drop tine, from the same spot.
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02-22-2017, 05:19 AM
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Yes. Area we hunt 2 or 3 out of 5 have a drop tine growing on basically same spot of right antler and starting to grow junk. All heavy and high dark antlers.
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02-22-2017, 07:50 AM
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absolutely! On one property I hunt it has 3 genetic pools that seem to reoccur every year.
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02-22-2017, 08:48 AM
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I would tend to agree.. Seems like you can tell the different gene pools based on antlers... or atleast that is my working theory.
Here is a good example of the little details i mean..
This is 2 different year classs deer both this years shed.. they have unique long skinny brow tines both bent at the tip. Also have more of a tear drop base and have almost the exact same bend to them.. all of my other ones are round or very close to round. If they were found on different years, I would suspect it is the same deers shed one year to the next
The thing I am not sure of is, are they Fathered by the same deer, or is one the father of the other one.. suppose it doesnt ultimately matter, just curious more than anything
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02-22-2017, 08:55 AM
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Havent noticed it in whitetails but for my elk hunting area 11 or so out of 15 bulls weve taken has had the left brow stick straight out.
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02-22-2017, 09:05 AM
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I guarantee that antler traits are 100% inherited.
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02-22-2017, 09:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walking buffalo
I guarantee that antler traits are 100% inherited.
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Yup genetics 101....both parents (buck and doe) carry genes that effect antler configuration and traits.
LC
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02-22-2017, 12:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck
Yup genetics 101....both parents (buck and doe) carry genes that effect antler configuration and traits.
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LOL...
Yeah I understand genetics from the mother and father are passed down.. But I guess I was questioning the antlers specifically if it is more environmental, nutritional or genes which shape them.
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02-22-2017, 01:16 PM
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Yup im gonna say yes!! I have one spot where the main genetics produce a tight curl on the right side.
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02-22-2017, 02:13 PM
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See it in Moose, one are is prevalent eye guards, next has more of a front shovel. Seen many WT in the northern wmu i hunt, having bladed tines.
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02-22-2017, 02:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadianEh
LOL...
Yeah I understand genetics from the mother and father are passed down.. But I guess I was questioning the antlers specifically if it is more environmental, nutritional or genes which shape them.
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Genes from a trophy class Buck can be passed on to a first generation daughter and often will show up in a male offspring of a Granddaughter. Gotta be careful which Doe gets shot.
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02-22-2017, 04:16 PM
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How about Damage during velvet?
how much have you seen that change a rack from year to year?
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02-22-2017, 08:20 PM
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contact a deer breeder and someone who actually has or is trying to breed for antler development
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02-23-2017, 01:03 AM
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Absolutely but nature has it that the strongest unless one sneaks in a quicky 
Get to breed to pass on thier genes but the area will flush out after a while due to this factor. You will have a 10 year stint or so of same characteristics for the most part.
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