View Poll Results: Do you eat the meat from your black bear?
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Yes.
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No.
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02-15-2017, 10:31 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 288
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Originally Posted by Slicktricker
Voted no because only thing I haven't harvested yet lol
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Anything to just be a part of the group huh?
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02-15-2017, 10:37 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 288
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slicktricker
Voted no because only thing I haven't harvested yet lol
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Polar bear? Grizzly? Caribou? Musk ox? Bison? Goat? Bighorn? Oryx? Giraffe? Lion? Gazelle? Wildebeest? Warthog? Ferel hog? Water buffalo? Seal? Walrus? Cougar? Jaguar? LOL there's still a few on this list you might be missing
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02-16-2017, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
Posts: 1,387
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Hmmmm....Black Bear
Actually my favorite wild game meat.
However, Dump Bears or Coastal Bears are another matter.
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02-16-2017, 09:53 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 526
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Just curious about the bear jerkey or the smoked bear meat. Would the temperature reached in the smoker be high enough to eliminate the possibility of trichinosis?
I've never hunted for bear and have never ate any, but might be interested one day to try.
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02-16-2017, 11:05 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Drayton Valley
Posts: 1,251
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Originally Posted by dustinjoels
Just curious about the bear jerkey or the smoked bear meat. Would the temperature reached in the smoker be high enough to eliminate the possibility of trichinosis?
I've never hunted for bear and have never ate any, but might be interested one day to try.
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Somebody 'll correct me if I'm wrong - when smoking meat whether for jerky or a ham do you not using a "cure" in the brine or rub? I would think this should eliminate any issues. Please set me straight if I am wrong before I poison myself lol.
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02-17-2017, 04:51 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Okotoks
Posts: 3,033
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I grew up in Northern Ontario and was told that the bears that were harvested
where there is an abundance of Blueberries tasted excellent. Personally, I have
never tried it, but I wouldn't turn it down if it were offered to me.
Is there a difference in meat quality between Black Bear taken in the
Spring and those killed in the Fall?
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02-17-2017, 02:47 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 22
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A guy i work with brought in some sausage to work, little did i know it was black bear, it was soooooo tasty and had been cooked and smoked several times the flavour was excellent and really took me by surprise. All in all hes a guy who hunts for his family's dinner table and you cant argue with that.
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02-17-2017, 03:03 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Calgary
Posts: 415
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Originally Posted by 500+BC
A guy i work with brought in some sausage to work, little did i know it was black bear, it was soooooo tasty and had been cooked and smoked several times the flavour was excellent and really took me by surprise. All in all hes a guy who hunts for his family's dinner table and you cant argue with that.
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Going for my first bear this spring, when/if I get one I'll be back to check off Yes.
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02-17-2017, 04:34 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: N. E. of High River
Posts: 4,985
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Originally Posted by kw12
Some of the best jerky I have had has been bear jerky. Sausages are amazing too.
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Would the low temperature in making jerky be enough to eliminate the chance of getting Trichinois?
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02-18-2017, 02:31 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Calahoo
Posts: 624
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Eat it eat it eat it! It's right up there with moose as a favorite for this fella.
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02-18-2017, 03:39 PM
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Gone Hunting
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: North of Peace River
Posts: 11,346
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Originally Posted by West O'5
Rendered bear fat makes great patch lube for shooting round balls with BP muzzleloader.
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It is also the best pastry lard ever, and makes a decent hair tonic, if you're into hair tonic, plus it makes a reasonable boot grease.
But it's at it's best for cooking. Beats hog lard any day.
I've eaten bear, and would again. But I've never hunted Bear in the traditional sense.
I've shot a lot of Bear, but only when they were causing problems around the farm. No need to hunt them, just keep a rifle by the door or in the tractor.
Most of the Bears I've shot were utilized in one way or another. There was a family we used to give the fatter Bears to, They didn't hunt, or even own a rifle, but they raised their family on Bear meat.
I guess it worked okay, they have four beautiful daughters that are as tough as they are pretty. Good people.
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02-18-2017, 03:49 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,151
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Quote:
Originally Posted by covey ridge
Would the low temperature in making jerky be enough to eliminate the chance of getting Trichinois?
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You would not want to try it in a dehydrator. Minimum 160 internal temp to kill trichenella. Smoker or convection oven, and use a meat thermometer.
PartTimeHunter: no, brine/cure does not reliably kill it.
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02-18-2017, 04:25 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: N. E. of High River
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Thanks 3Blade.
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02-20-2017, 11:33 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Lac La Biche
Posts: 71
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Meat handling and cooking preparation and how/what you do with it matters a lot with bear meat, best lasagna I ever ate was made with ground bear!
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02-20-2017, 08:19 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
Posts: 786
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJS
I took the meat off my bear last year and to be honest I found that it's better than venison. Will be eating a lot more bear from now on.
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X2. Better than deer.
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02-20-2017, 09:18 PM
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Gone Hunting
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: North of Peace River
Posts: 11,346
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Only thing I have against eating Bear is, they look too much like a neked old man once you get the hide off them.
Kinda makes me feel like a can-a-bull.
So long as someone else does the butchering, I'm fine with eating a Bear roast or two.
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02-20-2017, 09:31 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
Posts: 1,387
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Black Bear Chili...yummy
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02-21-2017, 09:36 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: N. E. of High River
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If a bear has been eating trash from a local dump, can one notice that in the flavor of the meat.
In other words is there a difference in taste between one that has been eating berries, roots and maybe certain insects than one that has been eating around pampers and maggots. and flys.
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02-21-2017, 12:21 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: 00
Posts: 507
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Quote:
Originally Posted by covey ridge
Would the low temperature in making jerky be enough to eliminate the chance of getting Trichinois?
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Freezing also eliminates the problem. Pork carries the same parasites, but you don't hear about it because pork is generally not cut up and cooked up fresh in camp, it's usually stored in the freezer before it gets cooked
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02-21-2017, 12:50 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 457
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Originally Posted by Little red riding hood
Freezing also eliminates the problem. Pork carries the same parasites, but you don't hear about it because pork is generally not cut up and cooked up fresh in camp, it's usually stored in the freezer before it gets cooked
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This is not true.
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02-21-2017, 12:52 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,208
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Originally Posted by shootermcgavin
This is not true.
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On several levels.
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02-21-2017, 01:03 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 971
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shootermcgavin
This is not true.
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Because it is a different type of trichonosis. The type found in pork can be killed by freezing.
https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/trichi...info/faqs.html
( Curing (salting), drying, smoking, or microwaving meat alone does not consistently kill infective worms; homemade jerky and sausage were the cause of many cases of trichinellosis reported to CDC in recent years.)
( Freezing wild game meats, unlike freezing pork products, may not effectively kill all worms because some worm species that infect wild game animals are freeze-resistant.)
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02-21-2017, 01:34 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up, I was unaware that there was a different strain in wild animals, I researched it because I was making jerky, and a friend asked if I could make some for him with pork, I knew that pork carries the trichinios parasites, and the research I found said that freezing will kill it.
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02-21-2017, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: N. E. of High River
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Little red riding hood
Freezing also eliminates the problem. Pork carries the same parasites, but you don't hear about it because pork is generally not cut up and cooked up fresh in camp, it's usually stored in the freezer before it gets cooked
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Fresh pork is very reasonable priced and I very seldom eat pork that is not fresh. I also find that pork fat and meat that is mixed with pork fat seems to develop a bad taste if kept frozen too long. Commercial pork is not slopped and kept knee deep in pig wallow does not have to be cooked to as high internal temperature.
That said, I miss the taste of slopped or free ranged pigs.
I have never hunted bear and the only bear that I have tried has been what I have enjoyed at game dinners. I might put bear on my hunting list if it were not for the requirement of not letting the hide go to waste. I can get the hide off most game in a quick manner only because I do not have to be careful with waste.
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