"shockingly low" Rcmp enrolement

[Zuludog]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Easiest question ever to answer.
Quit letting criminals out to keep repeating their crimes. Harsher longer penaltys are in need.
It has to start with a judicial system makeover...

I agree, especially the harsher part. Make it so crime REALLY doesn't pay. No TV, smokes, pool table, weights etc. Make labor mandatory & growing/raising their own food. Reduce prison costs by having them work, real hard.

[Smokey]

Ten Years Ago they were rejecting perfectly good people. A couple friends who were young got rejected for not having enough life experience. The one ran his own business and had a house and kid. His fault was he was barely 20. Another did some stupid petty I'm a suburban brat stuff, and was honest. He was working on a degree but was not suitable. Now he works with juvies...go figure.

With all due respect they kinda rejected alot of people, and now people don't wanna apply with the disdain and all the nutbars you face every day.

I think the police need our support more then ever. I stopped being a jerk to Police when they ticket me, Now I wish them a good day, say sorry when I get my yearly ticket. I figure their job is tough enough with everyone being skeptical. The average officer I've dealt with just wants to get home to his lovely bride and kids every night.

[GrandSlam]

Looks like affirmative action has finally caught up to them.

[Ron J]

Part of my career was spent in the polygraph unit. People who think they would not pass the polygraph are misinformed. The polygraph is not used to reveal hidden secrets, it is used to verify what the applicant has already disclosed. By the time the applicant gets to the polygraph test, he or she usually already disclosed their deep dark secrets on the disclosure forms or to the initial interviewer. Only after the application has been screened and the applicant deemed to be a viable candidate is the person sent for a polygraph test, therefore most of them have nothing to worry about, other than the unknown........but no matter how experienced the polygraph operator is, there are always surprizes.
Sorry for going off on a tangent on this thread.

[Kim473]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

if you like that

City of Toronto - Public Library PYPER JANE City Librarian $204,709.65

Librarian!?!?!? she probably has a doctorate in the dewey decimal system

Thats just sick. Wonder if she is doing the mayor or some other person of influence ?

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

The polygraph was used to test how truthful you were.

There is no science to support the current implimentation of a polygraph. All it really does is wrap the whole "we've got your buddy in the other room and he said the whole thing was YOUR idea" trick in a pretty little package with das blinken lights.

If you don't believe it works it doesn't.

I couldn't stand the idea of my future being determined by the opinion of an examiner who's entire process is based on a lie.

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by Ron J

Part of my career was spent in the polygraph unit.

The US National Research Council has done some research into the effectiveness of polygraphs and found them basically useless. Are you familiar with this?

http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309084369

I have always wondered how many of the people involved in administering the exams know this and just use them as a tactical advantage.

[NEWB]

Originally Posted by Ron J

Part of my career was spent in the polygraph unit. People who think they would not pass the polygraph are misinformed. The polygraph is not used to reveal hidden secrets, it is used to verify what the applicant has already disclosed. By the time the applicant gets to the polygraph test, he or she usually already disclosed their deep dark secrets on the disclosure forms or to the initial interviewer. Only after the application has been screened and the applicant deemed to be a viable candidate is the person sent for a polygraph test, therefore most of them have nothing to worry about, other than the unknown........but no matter how experienced the polygraph operator is, there are always surprizes.
Sorry for going off on a tangent on this thread.

I wonder how valid the polygraphs were when Donald Ray was running them...

I wonder if his training of other officers was comprimised.

"Mountie with history of sexual misconduct will be 'closely monitored,' RCMP says"


http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Mou...414/story.html