7mm-08 or 30-06 Remington mountain ss or browning speed mostly for sheep

[mathews z7]

Ok everyone I am loosing it , I have several other calibers but looking on choosing one more , 7 mm-08 or 30-06 I realize it’s totally different rounds , but need advice I like the speed and the ss for guns . I have never taken a sheep but I hear mixed reviews on the lighter or Heaver bullets and what’s better . Thanks in advance







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[Kurt505]

What you are looking for is both in one rifle.

A 280!

[6.5 shooter]

[QUOTE=Kurt505;3946790]What you are looking for is both in one rifle.

6.5 x 55 fixed it for you.

[OLD JOE]

is your area free of grizzly???
I mean,ya don't expect to get hit by lightning but its possible!!
you could keep 5 or 6 premium bullets in a pocket....for the 7-08,A FRAMES,NP, etc....but the idea of the .280 is something to think about.

[270person]

Originally Posted by mathews z7

Ok everyone I am loosing it , I have several other calibers but looking on choosing one more , 7 mm-08 or 30-06 I realize it’s totally different rounds , but need advice I like the speed and the ss for guns . I have never taken a sheep but I hear mixed reviews on the lighter or Heaver bullets and what’s better . Thanks in advance







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Lots of cartridges that will get the job done nicely. Can't say the two you mention would be near the top of my list but to each his own.

277 thru 284 and into the 300M's are probably the most used for a reason.

[huntwat]

I have owned both in 700 mountain. For the most part they will both do the job, and sheep won't be able to tell the difference. I sold the 7-08. Only reason is the selection of bullets in the .308 caliber. And factory ammo is cheaper if you go that way.

[anonforms]

I have the Rem 700 SS Laminated in 30-06. Only gun I use. Shot elk, moose and deer with it.


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[dogslayer403]

Originally Posted by OLD JOE

is your area free of grizzly???
I mean,ya don't expect to get hit by lightning but its possible!!
you could keep 5 or 6 premium bullets in a pocket....for the 7-08,A FRAMES,NP, etc....but the idea of the .280 is something to think about.

What good is premium ammo in your pocket going to do?
Any attacks i know of or victims of that ive talked to generally barely had time to chamber the rifle nevermind reach in a pocket for a few lol

As to the OP both are fine cartridges either will serve you well I prefer the 30-06 and the remington but niether are a bad choice

[270person]

Originally Posted by dogslayer403

What good is premium ammo in your pocket going to do?
Any attacks i know of or victims of that ive talked to generally barely had time to chamber the rifle nevermind reach in a pocket for a few lol

It's a little known fact that grizzly bears recognize and are accommodating to the request "gimme a sec here would ya".

[dogslayer403]

Originally Posted by 270person

It's a little known fact that grizzly bears recognize and are accommodating to the request "gimme a sec here would ya".

Lol exactly haha

[marky_mark]

You’d want to have the bear ammo in your rifle all the time
Swap it when you find the sheep

[rembo]

This two types of ammo thing is really absurd.
I'm of the opinion that if a bullet/load is good for grizz it would most certainly kill a sheep. Unless I'm missing some nuance.....
With all the things one has to deal with on a hunt I think 2 types of ammo would just complicate things way more than they have to be, but each to his own.
Then maybe one should carry a switch barrel set up with a 7mm-08 barrel and a 350 Mag barrel and don't forget the extra bolt and a barrel wrench.....and hope you're real fast with the tools...

And to the OP's question......either one will do.

[TUFFBUFF]

When the '06 is in the discussion - I always pick the other one

I have a 280 700ti though and it's a cool cartridge would be just right, last time I went up I packed a custom 6.5 rm.

[yukon254]

You couldnt go wrong with either, but my pick would be the 7mm08. IMO its one of the best all around cartridges ever designed. Since the 08 is a short action it will usually be a lighter rifle. This is a good thing on any mountain hunt where you are going to be packing every ounce.

[colroggal]

Originally Posted by rembo

This two types of ammo thing is really absurd.
I'm of the opinion that if a bullet/load is good for grizz it would most certainly kill a sheep. Unless I'm missing some nuance.....
With all the things one has to deal with on a hunt I think 2 types of ammo would just complicate things way more than they have to be, but each to his own.
Then maybe one should carry a switch barrel set up with a 7mm-08 barrel and a 350 Mag barrel and don't forget the extra bolt and a barrel wrench.....and hope you're real fast with the tools...

And to the OP's question......either one will do.

Bullet designed for close range use on a heavy bodied animal will pencil through a smaller, thin skinned sheep. In mountainous terrain that could easily translate to an animal lost.

I would pick the 30-06 And (if they shot well) use 178g A-max for extended ranges and 180g pro-hunters for close in bear defense. Sight in for the A-max load and don't be concerned about the slight poi shift inside 50 yards.

Keep in mind I'm not someone who hunts at the ranges that would allow an A-max bullet to be slow enough to be effective and humane. I do love that Sierra Pro Hunter though.

Colin

[Norwest Alta]

If you don't have a '06 in your collection you need one. Just because.

[Flight01]

Go with the 3006 and if you shoot factory ammo the 165 trophy bonded tip works for sheep and bear

[WLT]

Well, since 30-06 = Hand Of God, the choice is easy!

[Mountainaccent]

I own both and I would go 7mm08 all day Lang everyday I get it that the 3006 is old but nothing special about it, it’s boring lol

[elkhunter1234]

Did I hear someone say 270wsm??? Hits like a freight train and drives like a Porsche!!!!!!

Jim..

[270person]

Originally Posted by Norwest Alta

If you don't have a '06 in your collection you need one. Just because.

Would i have to start wearing suspenders tho?

[Flight01]

Originally Posted by 270person

Would i have to start wearing suspenders tho?

Don’t have to wear suspenders. Just as long as you talk about how things used to be better you can qualify too

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by 270person

Would i have to start wearing suspenders tho?

Nope. Plaid and curved brim hat will do.

[West O'5]

Originally Posted by dogslayer403

What good is premium ammo in your pocket going to do?
Any attacks i know of or victims of that ive talked to generally barely had time to chamber the rifle nevermind reach in a pocket for a few lol

As to the OP both are fine cartridges either will serve you well I prefer the 30-06 and the remington but niether are a bad choice

Originally Posted by 270person

It's a little known fact that grizzly bears recognize and are accommodating to the request "gimme a sec here would ya".

Originally Posted by marky_mark

You’d want to have the bear ammo in your rifle all the time
Swap it when you find the sheep

That’s what I was thinking....plenty of time to switch loads on a sheep stalk,not so much in a grizzly charge,lol

Originally Posted by Flight01

Don’t have to wear suspenders. Just as long as you talk about how things used to be better you can qualify too

Don’t need suspenders,those of us that are manly enough to carry the dirty O’six don’t need to compensate for shortcomings by toting a magnum and generally have enough junk up front to hold our pants up.😝

[leo]

Originally Posted by colroggal

Bullet designed for close range use on a heavy bodied animal will pencil through a smaller, thin skinned sheep. In mountainous terrain that could easily translate to an animal lost.

I would pick the 30-06 And (if they shot well) use 178g A-max for extended ranges and 180g pro-hunters for close in bear defense. Sight in for the A-max load and don't be concerned about the slight poi shift inside 50 yards.

Keep in mind I'm not someone who hunts at the ranges that would allow an A-max bullet to be slow enough to be effective and humane. I do love that Sierra Pro Hunter though.

Colin

Ever hear of the Nosler Partition? The original premium bullet will work well enough in all applications, assuming an accurate load can be found.
To the OP. Either would be a fine choice. If you're weight conscience, go with the shorter round.

[CanadianEh]

No no... Y'all got it wrong!

Get yourself a good modern 7x57 mauser. Load up some hornady 162g ELD-x (or amax 162) to modern day loads. factory ammo is very under pressure in this caliber due to old antique rifles.

Makes for a excellent long distance hammer.


Taken from Ballisticstudies

"Using 140 grain projectiles the 7x57 makes for a flat shooting, fast killing lighter medium game combination. That said, by adopting a softly constructed 162 to 168 grain projectile at moderate velocity, the 7x57 becomes something quite unique. This single point cannot be reiterated enough. Long heavy bullets may seem like a major handicap to the 7x57 but the opposite is true. With a projectile like the 162 grain Hornady A-Max, the 7x57 stands on its own, producing consistently wide, devastating and sometimes spectacular wounding on a wide variety of game - out to ranges far exceeding the capabilities of a 140 gain controlled expanding projectile."


"The key to outstanding all-round performance with the 162 grain A-Max is mild muzzle velocities no greater than 2700fps. From the lower muzzle velocity of 2600fps, the A-Max produces wide, fast bleeding wounds out to 300yards (2200fps) with a slight reduction in wounding between 300 and 475 yards (2000fps). The A-max continues to excel below 2000fps in the absence of bone strikes. This projectile requires very little resistance to initiate expansion and for this reason, is a more ethical killer at longer ranges approaching where wind factors make exact shot placement more difficult"

" It may seem to go against all logic to use a slow heavy bullet in the 7x57, particularly at extended ranges however, the A-Max and Berger are dramatically superior to other bullet designs at impact velocities below 2600fps."


P. S. Same bullet can be used in the 7mm08. So it would be my choice as well. 7mm just has goldilocks zone ballistics IMHO.

[303carbine]

Originally Posted by yukon254

You couldnt go wrong with either, but my pick would be the 7mm08. IMO its one of the best all around cartridges ever designed. Since the 08 is a short action it will usually be a lighter rifle. This is a good thing on any mountain hunt where you are going to be packing every ounce.

When your azz is about to be eaten by a big bear, short and light means jack.

[leo]

Originally Posted by 303carbine

When your azz is about to be eaten by a big bear, short and light means jack.

This could happen anytime, anyplace you're hunting. Pick a gun you can shoot well from all field positions. Put a good bullet that is accurate in that gun and go hunting. A 7-08 with a well constructed bullet will kill any bear that walks, from hand shaking distance to most reasonable hunting ranges. The trick is keeping cool enough to put the bullet in the right spot on the first shot. You might not get a second.