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09-06-2012, 10:44 AM
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There is a saying "Better to be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6".
In a "home invasion" situation, better not spend any time debating with yourself, should I take a chance on being charged for protecting my family and my life???
If you have a firearm for self protection then decide now if and when you will use it.
Put up a warning sign "WARNING! Home invaders WILL be shot"
If I am around when the "END OF THE WORLD" comes along, I will put more trust in my Bible that a gun.
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09-07-2012, 07:25 AM
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Cat,the .455 may be impractical but it hits hard at bar room ranges and as I said the coolness factor comes into play
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09-07-2012, 08:21 AM
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two methods I would chose to use in picking a end of the world pistol.
1: send 200 rounds down range, any stopages weapon rejected. now find a sandy swamp, place remaining pistols in milk crate and submerge. now recover and send 200 down range, stopages rejected. you will have few left to chose from.
2: have a mirror in front of you and review which muzzle makes you feel uneasy.
your list will be very short.
in the end reliability is primary.
my list: 1911.45
ruger one of the hawk series:357 or. 44 mag
desert eagle. 50.
webely. 455. I think wins looks like a cannon and is still working thru both wars. my 5¢
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09-07-2012, 08:27 AM
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Im a big fan of the CZ SP01 Shadow in 9mm. Super accurate semi auto and relatively affordable ammo (means lots of practice)! Also has a rail to install a laser or flashlight.
However, semi autos leave brass while revolvers do not ... Just sayin
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09-07-2012, 08:46 AM
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End of the world
On Dec. 21 this year I'll be taking the trigger lock off the 1911 just in case ..........
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09-07-2012, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bat119
End of the world
On Dec. 21 this year I'll be taking the trigger lock off the 1911 just in case ..........
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Oh yeah it's 2012 I forgot lol.
It's funny you know, with everybody building bomb shelters and God knows what else for this 2012 thing, I wonder when some wacko preparing for the end of the world is going to actually start a war or a riot or something. I'll be keeping my doors locked that night
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09-07-2012, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Sushi
Less evidence if the casings stay in the gun...revolver for dirty work. I wish...
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great point, as far as the warning is concerned I have always been a fan of the traditional verbal one..."Hey pal, if you hear the shot I missed"
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09-07-2012, 12:37 PM
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Been doing some research on the side and I'm considering the revolver again
As far as the end of the world scenario goes the revolver is a little quicker to fire, easier to clean, and more flexible in terms of ammo.
I should end up with a couple of guns really as some of you have suggested. Probably like a 1911 or a Sig and a .45 revolver of some sort.
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09-07-2012, 01:50 PM
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hmm i have rapid fired both a pistol and a revolver and don't really notice the revolver being a lot faster....you do get 3 more shots with a pistol over most (other than a 10 shot .22 type revolver and other rare ones that hold more than 6) revolvers....
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09-07-2012, 03:18 PM
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hmm i have rapid fired both a pistol and a revolver and don't really notice the revolver being a lot faster....you do get 3 more shots with a pistol over most (other than a 10 shot .22 type revolver and other rare ones that hold more than 6) revolvers....
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I only meant that it hasn't got a safety. So atleast in some scenarios you might be able to get off a shot faster. Ofcourse if you're fending off the cast of Mad Max then the faster reload of a semi is nice. Everything's a trade off lol.
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09-07-2012, 03:42 PM
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lol, yup
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09-07-2012, 03:46 PM
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Ruger 22-45...it's all I got!!!
I think if you were in a pinch 10 rounds into the torso would slow down any intruder.
Also I think the limited recoil of a .22 caliber would keep it easy to control in stress situations.
For those who have heard of Bob Munden, ya sure if I had skills like that I'd take a revolver. You can find him on YouTube easy enough.
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09-07-2012, 03:57 PM
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yes but 10 rounds into one intruder means you have emptied your gun on one intruder and left yourself vulnerable to the oncoming masses of zombies... lol
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09-07-2012, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by aulrich
I would be hard pressed not to have something 22lr, and a 12 guage with lee 12ga slug mold and a pocket reloader.
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A pocket reloader would leave you hard pressed indeed.
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09-07-2012, 11:04 PM
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yes but 10 rounds into one intruder means you have emptied your gun on one intruder and left yourself vulnerable to the oncoming masses of zombies... lol
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That's where the other group members come in, I trip the slowest one, start running, and reload later.
Or I just use a back up gun.
Myself I like the first one because it saves my ammo! Lol
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09-08-2012, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Classic_Cool
I only meant that it hasn't got a safety. So atleast in some scenarios you might be able to get off a shot faster. Ofcourse if you're fending off the cast of Mad Max then the faster reload of a semi is nice. Everything's a trade off lol.
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Which is why I like the Sig with decocker. Once you have chambered a round, decock, and you are carrying in a 'safe' mode, but there is no safety to release on that first round, just a double action squeeze followed by a short single action. As simple and reliable as my revolvers. Gotta love a Sig.
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09-08-2012, 04:06 PM
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1911 cocked and locked
flick off the thumb safety 8 shots good to go !
Doesn't get much faster than that
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09-08-2012, 04:44 PM
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Depends what kind of zombies they are. If they are the slow ones like Walking Dead then a nice Smith & Wesson .500 would be a lot of fun to just jog around and try to line up as many as possible to see if it would go through all of them. If they are the fast ones like 28 days and I Am Legend then a semi or full auto with as big as clip as I could find and a hand grenade for that final 10 seconds of life.
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09-09-2012, 11:23 PM
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I like revolvers, brass is easy to recover, and loading for them is easy; not to mention more flexible. However, if your revolver needs work, you will probably need a gun smith.
Semi autos are easy to look after and work on, quick to reload (with spare mag), but spit brass everywhere, and aren't as flexible for reloading.
I guess for me it would depend on how long the apocalypse was scheduled for...
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09-10-2012, 08:15 AM
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Was in the gun store the other day checking out various pieces. Gotta say I'm drawn to the S&W 686 Magnum with the 6" barrel. Got some likable features and as others have noted, revolvers are sexy
Don't know if it's the absolute perfect end of the world gun but I think it'll be my first (non-rental) handgun.
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09-10-2012, 04:10 PM
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Is anybody shooting the 686 with 4.2 Barrel ?
How are the New ones on timing and quality all over?
Have only the old ones and they are well done.
Have handled an older 686 and timing was very poor!
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09-11-2012, 01:14 AM
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Ive got a new 686 (6") and timing is good, very tight. The only annoyance is that stupid locking thing and the little metal flag they use to show if it's locked. It jiggles and makes an annoying sound. (I don't notice it too much when shooting though.. ) Reading the forums and there are some complaints that the odd barrel escapes the factory and isn't lined up properly.
Google 686 vs python and lots of people put the 686 right up there (almost or on par) with the python.
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09-11-2012, 09:17 PM
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Magnum research BFR 45/70
I would want a BFR45/70 at my side if the world was ending. No fear for a shortage of ammo, as I hunt with the same rifle, and alway load in batches of 100. and there are not many things as intimidating as looking down a cavern and realizing its a gun barrel pointed at you!
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09-11-2012, 09:59 PM
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What's next, 50bmg 1911's?
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09-11-2012, 10:53 PM
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I have never considered the posibility of needing to shoot anyone. This type of thinking is rediculous.
Get a grip guys, take life as it comes, and live smart.
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09-12-2012, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by petew
I have never considered the posibility of needing to shoot anyone. This type of thinking is rediculous.
Get a grip guys, take life as it comes, and live smart.
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Live life how you want but don't tell the rest of to emulate your example.
Victims are born and then they die. I'm not feeding no brain eating zombie.
I think I might need a drum mag for the Ar pistol! Bring on the undead.
On a serious note, "I have never considered the possibility of needing to shoot anyone. This type of thinking is ridiculous." I envy you innocence what are you seven?
No offense intended, just sounds like you live in a bubble. You can't imagine a scenario where you might have to take someone out...who are you Jesus?
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09-12-2012, 02:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GermanHunter
Is anybody shooting the 686 with 4.2 Barrel ?
How are the New ones on timing and quality all over?
Have only the old ones and they are well done.
Have handled an older 686 and timing was very poor!
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I believe I know you...BTW the timing on the Dan Wesson is seriously out. Took a chunk of steel in my eyebrow after you left that day. ohh well back to the gun smith!
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09-12-2012, 06:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by petew
I have never considered the posibility of needing to shoot anyone. This type of thinking is rediculous.
Get a grip guys, take life as it comes, and live smart.
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I'm not big on shooting people either but it's simple math. Modern cities are designed with a woefully unbalanced ratio of population to production. In a prolonged crisis people would have trouble getting the supplies they need and they would inevitably fight about it.
And actually you don't even need to deprive people of anything. There's always a segment of the population that's waiting to rise up and cause havoc. Be it for havoc's sake, for looting, or to rebel against something. And they're not necessarily the brightest bunch.
If you need evidence of that effect you need only look at the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Or closer to home just check out the G20 riots or the aftermath of a hockey game When given the chance people will go wild and become a danger to others.
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