30 06 for coyotes

[happy honker]

Didn't want to derail the other thread...

If you had to use a 30 06 for coyotes, what load would you choose?
How would it change a hunt?

I'm betting it can be done.

[Red Bullets]

I answered on the other thread.

There are 125 grain bullets for 30-06. Lighter lead, faster bullet, less damage. You would have to resight your gun in for the lighter lead.

There are 55 grain accelerator bullets for a 30-06 too. They are not very accurate though. Pretty fast.

I also noticed there is a 112 grain for 30-06 too.

http://www.ballistics101.com/30-06_Springfield.php

[davesilva]

Originally Posted by Red Bullets

I answered on the other thread.

There are 125 grain bullets for 30-06. Lighter lead, faster bullet, less damage. You would have to resight your gun in for the lighter lead.

There are 55 grain accelerator bullets for a 30-06 too. They are not very accurate though. Pretty fast.

I also noticed there is a 112 grain for 30-06 too.

http://www.ballistics101.com/30-06_Springfield.php

I'd go with 50 cal instead

[warbridle]

I shot a coyote with a 55 gr Accellerator one time years ago. It looked like I'd taken a chainsaw to it's throat. Never again.

[davesilva]

Yeah way too much gun for a dog

If people can afford it go down to .243
Or .223

[purgatory.sv]

If you reload a 125 or 130 gr bullet will work.

I use 130 gr Hornady sp part #3020.

I have loads that seem to work in 308, 30-06 and 300h+h.
I am working on the 300win.

[davesilva]

And it's not blowing them to ****? Have any pictures?
I just can't believe this

[purgatory.sv]

Weight, velocity, entry determine what you desire?

[winger7mm]

Personally I like the 22-250 shooting 55gr winchester ballistic silver tips. However I sold the gun due to not liking the bolt throw angle. Ill be using my .243 this year. As it is right now ill be shooting 95gr nosler ballistic tips (hoping to get in on the magrath deer hunt and dont want to resight swithing to a 55gr for yotes) My goal is to get a good skull to bleach and to take the g/fs oldest on a yote hunt. Ill find out how those 95grns do. If its bad ill switch to a lighter bullet.

IMO if you plan on salvaging the hide purchase a cheap rifle chambered in a small round such as a savage axis in 22-250 other then that, blast away and leave em.

[oldgutpile]

There is no way of getting around it, it's just too much gun. If you HAD to use an '06, re: no alternative/funds for different, I would personally go with a large "well-constructed" bullet that was meant to hold together on big game.
I have been there. One gun-man, worrying about putting meat on the table more than what new type of gun I was going to try next.
I shot numerous coyotes with the '06, using 200 grain round nose bullets. When they were called in and offered standing shots, it was amazing how little damage that bullet did. In and out! Not enough resistance in my books, to start the bullet expanding. HOwever, those nasty running away shots, that bullet could still rip them open from front to back. Of course, I have done that on the same type of shot with a 22-250.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Bigger bullet on dogs....load slower not faster. The large bullet will displace more material as it will likely stay together...that displacement needs to go sone where, usually out the neck and armpits of the coyote.

When you start using a .270, .30-06, or up on Coyotes, fur friendly is not an option.

LC

[Andrzej]

I shoot 150 gr Barnes TTSX from 30-06.
I would not hesitate to use them on coyotes. Based on experience with deer or elk those bullets would pierce through coyote without much damage to pelt regardless of distance.

[1badshot]

My nephew in SK uses a fmj in his 06 he finds it to work quite well but i do agree on buying a cheep 22 cal. Those axis package guns a quite resonable a shoot well. Either way have fun.

[Iceman4]

Originally Posted by Andrzej

I shoot 150 gr Barnes TTSX from 30-06.
I would not hesitate to use them on coyotes. Based on experience with deer or elk those bullets would pierce through coyote without much damage to pelt regardless of distance.

Just doesn't work that way on thin skinned little coyotes. 30-06 is a great gun to kill them with if you're only after the skull, but the hide will be toast.

[tchardy1972]

Originally Posted by oldgutpile

There is no way of getting around it, it's just too much gun. If you HAD to use an '06, re: no alternative/funds for different, I would personally go with a large "well-constructed" bullet that was meant to hold together on big game.
I have been there. One gun-man, worrying about putting meat on the table more than what new type of gun I was going to try next.
I shot numerous coyotes with the '06, using 200 grain round nose bullets. When they were called in and offered standing shots, it was amazing how little damage that bullet did. In and out! Not enough resistance in my books, to start the bullet expanding. HOwever, those nasty running away shots, that bullet could still rip them open from front to back. Of course, I have done that on the same type of shot with a 22-250.

This is how I would do it also. No way that the 110 grainers won't tear them open.

[buckbrushoutdoors]

150gr fmj

[Andrzej]

Originally Posted by Iceman4

Just doesn't work that way on thin skinned little coyotes. 30-06 is a great gun to kill them with if you're only after the skull, but the hide will be toast.

TTSX is monometal solid copper and will not open much on thin skinned coyote so those bullets will pencil through like solid bullet with not much for pelt damage.
Those bullets do not fragment retaining 99-100 % weight so what would cause hide damage. I have pics of WT buck shot at 100 y with 338 Win Mag with 225 TTSX
Bullet diameter in and 1 1/2 out...

[357xp]

Imo even a 22-250 is to big for dogs if you're skinning them. .223 is ok if you're not to close. .22 mag if 100 yards or less.
Yes anything will work but not to practical.
Coyote pelts are at decent prices right now, skin em.

[Kurt505]

I just bought a 270win for coyotes, I haven't been able to get a shot at one yet, but when I do I'll post a pic. The rifle is still so new I haven't gotten any loads developed for it yet, other than 110gr Accubond but I don't want to be using that on coyotes.

I can't see a TTSX exploding a coyote unless you hit a shoulder or backbone, but that shot would cause damage no matter which cartridge your using.

[obsessed1]

have shot lots of coyotes with 308 win..with all types of bullets from serria hpmt,gamekings to nosler partitions and btips even barnes in every weight from 125 to 180grs. my experience is if saving pelts is the what your after use a smaller caliber over 90% of my 308 kills have been hide wreckers.

[fish_e_o]

i shot one with my 30-06 this fall i used 180 accubonds

i think the fur is still falling

[Iceman4]

Originally Posted by Andrzej

TTSX is monometal solid copper and will not open much on thin skinned coyote so those bullets will pencil through like solid bullet with not much for pelt damage.
Those bullets do not fragment retaining 99-100 % weight so what would cause hide damage. I have pics of WT buck shot at 100 y with 338 Win Mag with 225 TTSX
Bullet diameter in and 1 1/2 out...

Bullets react 1000% differently on deer than they do on coyotes. Deer are thick skinned and much larger. I have seen many coyotes shot with larger calibre guns and a variety of bullets(except for full metal jacket), they all make a mess of them. My 300WSM will shoot through a deer and leave a 1 1/2-2" exit hole, but it nearly tears coyotes in half. The bullet doesn't expand to 14"(the size of some of the exit holes), it's the energy of the larger bullet hitting the coyote that almost causes it to explode. Look at videos of bullets hitting ballistic gel, the bullet expands slightly and carries on through the gel, but the energy causes a massive explosion or "bubble" in the gel.

[densa44]

I'm not interested in the hide, so the first one was with a light hollow point, I didn't see the entry wound but you could put a grapefruit in the hole between the shoulder blades.

I switched to 223 FMJs and reloaded accelerators. They worked great.

[crazy_davey]

These three coyotes were killed with a 30-06 using 168g TSX, all in the same sitting. There was no more damage than from any other cartridge I have used on coyotes. I have actually seem way more damage from a 22-250 using varmint bullets.







Now, back on to the comments from all the ballistic experts...

[Lefty-Canuck]

I used to use 110gr vmax in my .270 on coyotes....it is NOT fur friendly.

LC

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

When you start using a .270, .30-06, or up on Coyotes, fur friendly is not an option.

LC

My experience doing so using both cartridges many, many times tells me different.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by crazy_davey

My experience doing so using both cartridges many, many times tells me different.

I don't use mono metals....try a cup and core GameKing or a VMax in either of those and get back to me

LC

[wwbirds]

We have been using SX Hornady bullets in 223 and 22-250 with minimal pelt damage and also in a rural area near Calgary these bullets are known to explode should they make contact with grass dirt or snow so wont carry for miles or richochet. We have had a few people ask about hunting coyotes and even gophers in this area with a 270, 308 or 30-06 turned down for heavy monometal bullets that do not expand or explode present a bit more chance for the bullet carrying farther than the coyote into the next property and beyond.
Many farmers that will allow 22 or varmint calibers will refuse someone using deer plus calibers permission when hunting varmints.

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I used to use 110gr vmax in my .270 on coyotes....it is NOT fur friendly.

LC

I use the 100g TSX all the time on coyotes out my .257 Roberts. Does no more damage than anything else I have used. Like I said, I have seen just as much, probably way more damage from a 22-250 using something like V-Max's or any other varmint bullet.

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I don't use mono metals....try a cup and core GameKing or a VMax in either of those and get back to me

LC

Your above posts says differently.

Have used those in the past, have no interest anymore.