RCMP May Have Advised Criminal to Sue Landowner

elkhunter11 · #1 10-18-2019, 07:45 AM

So they assist in extortion when animal rights people trespass, and now they may have advised a criminal to sue landowners.

https://calgarysun.com/opinion/colum...-eddie-maurice

Grizzly Adams · #2 10-18-2019, 08:17 AM

Even the Health Care system had the Balls to sue him. Probably would have succeeded under Rachel's government. Criminals are a voting majority in this country now ???

Grizz

cody j · #3 10-18-2019, 08:28 AM

So the RCMP are looking out for, enabling and protecting the rights of the criminals? Some changes are badly needed.

cody j · #4 10-18-2019, 08:31 AM

The lost income this guy is suing for, is this because he was unable to steal while he was recovering? Has it permanently affected his ability to steal in the future?

bobtodrick · #5 10-18-2019, 08:31 AM

As I stated in another thread I started (about my kid's issue with the RCMP) I have lost total respect for them as a force.
Not to say that there are not lot of great RCMP officers who are excellent LE people...but the whole upper hierarchy is just all wrong.
I deal with a lot of LE in my job...I truly find that (for example) the EPS attitude is 'we're here to help the public'...the RCMP seems to be 'we're here to keep the public in line'.
Example. I have a couple of photos of my boys in my office taken at the range where they are shooting both handguns and rifle. At the time the photos were taken they were about 12 and 14.
The comments from nearly all the EPS people were...'hey, great that your kids look like they know what they are doing'.
Comments from many RCMP ran along the lines of...'aren't they a little young to be allowed to shoot handguns?'
As I said....totally different mindset.

Lefty-Canuck · #6 10-18-2019, 08:32 AM

Is this the greasy lawyer talking out his butt or is it an officer who stated something out of frustration?

LC

WhiteTailAB · #7 10-18-2019, 08:32 AM

Are you shocked? They don't want anyone to stand up for themselves in self defense and if they do they want you to pay hard and since eddie had a gofundme and won the case he obviously hasn't been hurt enough so the queens cowboys need to bring him down a few notches!!!

makes me sick

58thecat · #8 10-18-2019, 08:40 AM

enough said right there......

farmer23 · #9 10-18-2019, 08:40 AM

It is time for Alberta to have its own policing force. The RCMP are past the point of any logical ability to turn that organization around. I would like to think that law enforcement would be more understanding of the situation but when they start suggesting to criminals that they should sue the homeowner, you have lost my respect!

crazy_davey · #10 10-18-2019, 08:55 AM

Maurice should have got the ***** between the eyes.

liar · #11 10-18-2019, 09:25 AM

im sure this was more if a comment than advice . again , the problem is not the rcmp but our legal system is out of control . criminal's rights should not be the same as the rest of society's rights .

traderal · #12 10-18-2019, 09:36 AM

Write your MLA and voice your concerns and support for our Justice Minister to pursue this matter. I did.

Sooner · #13 10-18-2019, 09:40 AM

Can Maurice add the Rcmp to his counter suit now or sue them directly?

Brutal if they did suggest the scum bag sue him.

NCC · #14 10-18-2019, 09:44 AM

In the Shell Lake theft, the RCMP station was 20 minutes away from the convoy of vehicles stealing gas. I don’t know how long it took the “convoy” to fuel up, but I would have thought the RCMP could have responded in time to apprehend the criminals. it appears as if there is no will to reduce rural crime. I don’t know where the breakdown is, but if the judicial system isn’t willing or able to deal with the problems, they should also look the other way when citizens defend themselves.

wack99 · #15 10-18-2019, 10:33 AM

If you think about it, the origional case never went to court therefore no pecedent set. If this latest waste of time and money went against the defendant, would this then give the RCMP cause to reopen the case.

Jason

Ken07AOVette · #16 10-18-2019, 10:47 AM

OP- you think this is a new thing?

Every single time it is something involving personal loss, the RCMP tells the 'Plaintiff' in this case that it is a Civil Matter.
Guess where Civil Matters are held.
Provincial Court.
How do you get there?
Statement of Claim filed for a minimal cost. If over $50,000 it is Court of Queen's Bench, same process, costs more.

This is nothing more than overdramatizing, whipped up by the frenzied Facebook readers trying to point fingers at the RCMP.
Yes, they proliferate Facebook right now.

Good grief, this is like saying everything from the CBC and BELL is written law now?

Mind you it has been at least 2 days since the last bash the RCMP thread.

Ken07AOVette · #17 10-18-2019, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner

Can Maurice add the Rcmp to his counter suit now or sue them directly?

Brutal if they did suggest the scum bag sue him.

The RCMP have law suits filed against them constantly, people looking for a free payday. In some cases they are warranted, smashing a civilian vehicle while in process of chase, which is why they do not chase anymore. et-al

Sue them for what? Hurt feelings? Telling the scumbag to seek legal council?

Ken07AOVette · #18 10-18-2019, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wack99

If you think about it, the origional case never went to court therefore no pecedent set. If this latest waste of time and money went against the defendant, would this then give the RCMP cause to reopen the case.

Jason

No. Civil cases do not affect or influence Criminal.

Pathfinder76 · #19 10-18-2019, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

OP- you think this is a new thing?

Every single time it is something involving personal loss, the RCMP tells the 'Plaintiff' in this case that it is a Civil Matter.
Guess where Civil Matters are held.
Provincial Court.
How do you get there?
Statement of Claim filed for a minimal cost. If over $50,000 it is Court of Queen's Bench, same process, costs more.

This is nothing more than overdramatizing, whipped up by the frenzied Facebook readers trying to point fingers at the RCMP.
Yes, they proliferate Facebook right now.

Good grief, this is like saying everything from the CBC and BELL is written law now?

Mind you it has been at least 2 days since the last bash the RCMP thread.

Why did they not explain this in their statement?

Ken07AOVette · #20 10-18-2019, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck

Why did they not explain this in their statement?

Because They were not ordered to, entitled to, required to?

Or, if you can imagine it, that part of the statement was left out on purpose to further someone's agenda? Has that ever happened in selective reporting?

Pathfinder76 · #21 10-18-2019, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

Because They were not ordered to, entitled to, required to?

Or, if you can imagine it, that part of the statement was left out on purpose to further someone's agenda? Has that ever happened in selective reporting?

I don’t know. That is why I asked.

Ken07AOVette · #22 10-18-2019, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck

I don’t know. That is why I asked.

Oh I am sorry.

Everything you can think of is reported to the RCMP. If it is not something that is covered by their Jurisdiction and power, it is handled by Civil Court.

That is just common knowledge.

I would 'assume' they expect everyone to know that, and likely do not feel that they have to back up their statement with reasoning? If that makes sense.

liar · #23 10-18-2019, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traderal

Write your MLA and voice your concerns and support for our Justice Minister to pursue this matter. I did.

i have written my mla and mp on various subjects from omar khadar to setting up of safe injection sites in jails . the reply i get back is always " as canadian citizens , they are entitled to the same rights are you and i " . as i have posted earlier we , as a society , are either going to average down to the lowest common denominator (criminals)or else we need to make some serious changes as to how we govern ourselves .

the cops tell the pos that if he wants compensation it is a civil matter is not advising him to sue . it is just pointing out a fact . the fact that a criminal can sue his victim is the problem , as i see it , but i have been wrong before .

Ken07AOVette · #24 10-18-2019, 11:40 AM

“Actually the RCMP, I believe he told me, advised him that it wasn’t a bad idea to do or actually suggested he do it,” says Nelson, the lawyer.

Lol there you have it, written in stone haha

From this one line, there is a segment of Canadians bashing the RCMP?

pikergolf · #25 10-18-2019, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

“Actually the RCMP, I believe he told me, advised him that it wasn’t a bad idea to do or actually suggested he do it,” says Nelson, the lawyer.

Lol there you have it, written in stone haha

From this one line, there is a segment of Canadians bashing the RCMP?

In a word yes, and if true well deserved.

Ken07AOVette · #26 10-18-2019, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pikergolf

In a word yes, and if true well deserved.

I would never argue with you Dennis, you are one of the few I respect most in here, but the truth is RCMP do not handle Civil Loss.

I think it is a prerequisite that they learn these words;

'that is a civil matter, we do not handle that'.

Used against them pretty damning.

If the Leo cuddled up and said 'sooooo, you may not know this, but back in 1970 a guy was shot then sued for enough money that he could buy all new burglary tools, you should go find a scummy lawyer that will represent you pro-bono and cash in on this'

He should be publicly and very loudly fired, and the Department under review.

Grizzly Adams · #27 10-18-2019, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCC

In the Shell Lake theft, the RCMP station was 20 minutes away from the convoy of vehicles stealing gas. I don’t know how long it took the “convoy” to fuel up, but I would have thought the RCMP could have responded in time to apprehend the criminals. it appears as if there is no will to reduce rural crime. I don’t know where the breakdown is, but if the judicial system isn’t willing or able to deal with the problems, they should also look the other way when citizens defend themselves.

Buddy lives within sight of Didsbury. Apprehended the perp and called the cops. FOURTY FIVE minutes lather they showed up. Then they suggested he might face assault charges.

Grizz

rem338win · #28 10-18-2019, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wack99

If you think about it, the origional case never went to court therefore no pecedent set. If this latest waste of time and money went against the defendant, would this then give the RCMP cause to reopen the case.

Jason

No it won't.

Ok, I am going to suggest there is a ton of jumping to conclusions here, and you all took the click bait.

First, the thief is the only person to benefit from this being true. The RCs don't, and the Maurice's don't.

Second, you're all taking the bottom feeding lawyers word that his thief client said this and its true.

At best I see this as what happened:

Thief - poor me, my arm is sooo hurt, and my drug addiction needs to be fed and the RCMP failed me by not charging my victim.... I mean the guy who shot me.

RCMP - Crown said no, so sue him. (walks away)

Now, the RCMP aren't using discretion like they should these days because the public has become so damn whiny about everything that the only way they can CYA is to lay the charge and let the courts figure it out. Terrible way to do business, but when every internet lawyer asshat lays a complaint because they know better, guess what? They defecto, and it's what they're taught to do from the top down now for the CYA factor. I don't agree with it, but the public shares part of the blame.

This entire article was click bait. Stop trusting the media and stop trusting lawyers.

kmacisaac · #29 10-18-2019, 05:31 PM

A Sun article.....CBC mentioned.... I know there is a lot of RCMP bashing on here but really? The only POS I can find in any of this is a lawyer who will go to bat for a drug addicted thief. I actually feel for the police. It's a revolving door for them dealing with this type of scum. It's not them that sentence the crime or go to bat for this crap. As mentioned above, don't end up with the sheep.

elkhunter11 · #30 10-18-2019, 07:51 PM

Being as how the RCMP stood by and watched protestors trespass, and commit extortion, at a Fort McLeod turkey farm, I guess I shouldn't have been surprised.