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Barrie? He’s a luxury we simply cannot afford right now. I like him lots, but he’s blocking the progression of Bouchard, and we have Nurse for 2nd PP. If Broberg develops into an option then fine, but slow playing Bouchard is just not a good thing anymore. He’s a cerebral player with a heavy heavy shot, but he can walk the blue line, and he has the ability to disguise/fake shots and then quickly get them through traffic. He was correctly slow-played in the AHL and NHL, not rushed, but he’s arrived. You cannot hinder him any longer.
Foegele will likely only require one draft choice as a sweetener, or prospect, not two like Kassian did.
Why in hell you would keep Foegele at 2.75m vs PoolParty at 3m is beyond me. The kid has a really shtty agent who has given bad advice. His upside is much higher than Foegele, and he brings different things to the party, including immaturity though.
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Interesting Nurse shows up on the top 10 overpaid players list.
NHL’s 10 worst contracts, 2022 edition: Tyler Seguin, Seth Jones and others
https://theathletic.com/3435602/2022...ontracts-2022/
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07-27-2022, 11:55 AM
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Nurse is definitely over paid a bit seems like. We will never know how far they would have gone in the playoffs had he not been injured though. He’s a force when fully healthy and in the zone. Even then still overpaid by a few million in my opinion. Can’t win them all. The longer deals for Drai and Mcdavid sure are looking good for value right now.
Always risky when you have to try to predict the future. Hard to know exactly what a player will be playing like in a few years and not many GMs and agents could have predicted a flat salary cap last couple years and the free agency period and signings reflects that as well. If I remember right when they signed Nurse they mentioned there was a plan for the salary cap to increase.
I mean he’s still good value compared to Lucic
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07-27-2022, 06:19 PM
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Nurse is definitely over paid a bit seems like. We will never know how far they would have gone in the playoffs had he not been injured though. He’s a force when fully healthy and in the zone. Even then still overpaid by a few million in my opinion. Can’t win them all. The longer deals for Drai and Mcdavid sure are looking good for value right now.
Always risky when you have to try to predict the future. Hard to know exactly what a player will be playing like in a few years and not many GMs and agents could have predicted a flat salary cap last couple years and the free agency period and signings reflects that as well. If I remember right when they signed Nurse they mentioned there was a plan for the salary cap to increase.
I mean he’s still good value compared to Lucic
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Lucic.
Another epic contract failure in Edmonton. They still pay 12.5% of his salary. That said I see him working hard. His age has caught up to him. I don’t see him slacking.
James Neal contract was also a failure for Calgary.
I think fans would prefer to see players get an equal base salary and then get a share of bonus money for performance metrics TBD.
Then players can’t sign amazing deals and then never live up to expectations.
Pay for performance.
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Lucic.
Another epic contract failure in Edmonton. They still pay 12.5% of his salary. That said I see him working hard. His age has caught up to him. I don’t see him slacking.
James Neal contract was also a failure for Calgary.
I think fans would prefer to see players get an equal base salary and then get a share of bonus money for performance metrics TBD.
Then players can’t sign amazing deals and then never live up to expectations.
Pay for performance.
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That 100%!... 
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Hey Turtlechuckers your on the wrong thread…
#webroketheFlames
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08-02-2022, 06:31 PM
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Lowe on Oil
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Kevin low retiring after 40 years
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08-02-2022, 09:04 PM
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Nobody wanted to win more than that guy. Impressive career both player and afterwards.
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08-03-2022, 01:12 AM
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Kevin low retiring after 40 years
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Thank goodness
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08-27-2022, 05:04 AM
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Bu-by now..
Don't let the door hit ya on your way out. Actually, I'd like to see that door hit him. HARD!
He MUST of had incriminating pics of Katz to be able to be such a huge failure year after year and not only get to keep his job, but he gets promoted too! If he had any conscience at all he would return all those paychecks.
C-YA! 
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08-02-2022, 08:41 PM
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That’s where I’d put em too.
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08-02-2022, 08:48 PM
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That’s where I’d put em too.
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I feel we are so close to having a cup worthy team.
Need a stronger left winger. An upgraded defender. And then fingers crossed on goal.
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Kinda funny that Evander Kane didnt even make the list for the oilers when he is McDavids left winger! But I am not a hockey writer. 
Thought we were weaker on the right side.
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08-02-2022, 09:44 PM
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Kinda funny that Evander Kane didnt even make the list for the oilers when he is McDavids left winger! But I am not a hockey writer.
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Very good point. Playoff performance in my mine puts him in the over perform category.
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08-10-2022, 11:49 AM
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Kinda funny that Evander Kane didnt even make the list for the oilers when he is McDavids left winger! But I am not a hockey writer.
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If you read his article he had Kane on the right side because he plays both sides.
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08-09-2022, 11:19 PM
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Oiler exceeding cap space?
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/oilers
Looks like $6 million over right now.
So who to ditch?
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08-10-2022, 06:23 AM
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You're taking Smith and Klefbom being put on LTIR into account yes? Option is there to run a smaller roster as well.
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You're taking Smith and Klefbom being put on LTIR into account yes? Option is there to run a smaller roster as well.
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Reading the ? On the page it isn’t clear to me if that is the case.
Curious to see what changes.
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Found it interesting that the vast majority of players, on that list and the 10 best contracts, are defensemen and there were no goalies.
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