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01-23-2024, 04:53 AM
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Hunting in WMU 228 in 2024
Who all hunts in 228?
There will be some minor changes in a couple of sections, that won't effect most of you guys and gals.
There is some land west of Demay Lake that will NOT be OPEN for hunting anymore. Just look for the new No Hunting signs.
A group of us have received written permission from the landowner to hunt on his land.... and he has not given any others permission.
We are very experienced hunters, and the owner will press charges if you guys are on his land. We have been told if they do say they have permission that they are lying and politely send them on their way.
Last season he was disgusted by the number of hunters on his 8 quarter sections again without being allowed there. Dozens he said, Deer just getting slaughtered.
One hunter shot and gutted a deer only 200 yards from his sister's home. That is dangerous guys and totally disrespectful. We as a group are better than that.
Each area that our group will be hunting will be clearly marked NO HUNTING AND NO TRESPASSING. I will be personally posting a few hundred signs, We just want a nice peaceful and safe hunt.
Please, follow the signs. when people go on somebody else's land, without asking it, ruins it for all of us hunters,
This was not meant to offend anybody, as 99% of you are awesome and respectful people. I am sorry for having to post this on here.
Feedback and comments are welcome
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01-23-2024, 06:33 AM
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Thats to bad. But it only takes a few bad apples and its over. Sounds like the same thing that happened to me in 348.
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01-23-2024, 09:02 AM
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I am familiar with the zone and area as I grew up in Camrose. Sorry to hear that the landowner is having trouble with trespassers and good on you for helping out.
Also happy for you that you and your group have secured access and ongoing permission to the property
This is an issue that permeates in all zones in which private land is present. Understandably, landowners and hunters are fed up with it.
I don’t think it’s likely that posting on AOF about this specific parcel of land will prevent trespassing on it, but I guess it’s worth the try…
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01-23-2024, 09:36 AM
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Everyone I know who hunts private land seems to have issues with trespassers. Seems more and more landowners are saying no do to either idiots or trespassers
Sadly posting no trespassing signs or not allowing hunting isn’t going to fix it. What needs to start happening is landowners have to report these people and consequences needed to be harsher. Most are just kicked off the property and told they can’t hunt there not a real deterrent for a guy willing to trespass. They will just keep doing it
As for the post starting this thread announcing that you have exclusive permission and signs will be posted congrats but I am pretty sure those who trespass don’t care. There is a ton of land that would fit into this category across Alberta. I have a number of buddies hunting places with exclusive permission on posted land and they are kicking off trespassers every year
I will stick to do most of my hunting on public land it’s way less hassle once you learn how to hide from the slobs
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01-23-2024, 09:45 AM
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I live in 228, and trespassing is a huge issue, but signs won't make much of a difference.
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01-23-2024, 10:11 AM
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I haven't hunted private land in 25 years. I'll be out in the big bush crown land as long as the Lord is willing.
Congrats on your 'Exclusive Rights' to hunt...
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01-23-2024, 10:19 AM
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Kindda weird post.
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01-23-2024, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by klomas98
Who all hunts in 228?
There will be some minor changes in a couple of sections, that won't effect most of you guys and gals.
There is some land west of Demay Lake that will NOT be OPEN for hunting anymore. Just look for the new No Hunting signs.
A group of us have received written permission from the landowner to hunt on his land.... and he has not given any others permission.
We are very experienced hunters, and the owner will press charges if you guys are on his land. We have been told if they do say they have permission that they are lying and politely send them on their way.
Last season he was disgusted by the number of hunters on his 8 quarter sections again without being allowed there. Dozens he said, Deer just getting slaughtered.
One hunter shot and gutted a deer only 200 yards from his sister's home. That is dangerous guys and totally disrespectful. We as a group are better than that.
Each area that our group will be hunting will be clearly marked NO HUNTING AND NO TRESPASSING. I will be personally posting a few hundred signs, We just want a nice peaceful and safe hunt.
Please, follow the signs. when people go on somebody else's land, without asking it, ruins it for all of us hunters,
This was not meant to offend anybody, as 99% of you are awesome and respectful people. I am sorry for having to post this on here.
Feedback and comments are welcome
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You do realize land posted "No Hunting" by law means NOBODY, not even the landowner is legally allowed to hunt it!
You better just stick to "No Trespassing Without Written Permission" and add "Trespassers Will Be Prosecuted" then hope for the best because trespassers trespass, plain and simple, signs or no signs...
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01-23-2024, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank_NK28
You do realize land posted "No Hunting" by law means NOBODY, not even the landowner is legally allowed to hunt it!
You better just stick to "No Trespassing Without Written Permission" and add "Trespassers Will Be Prosecuted" then hope for the best because trespassers trespass, plain and simple, signs or no signs...
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False that doesn’t apply in Alberta call F&W if you doubt me
There is a province or provinces that this is true and likely where this originated. I know for a fact it doesn’t apply in both Alberta and B.C.. I have done my due diligence on this in the past do to a $50 bet
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01-23-2024, 10:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank_NK28
You do realize land posted "No Hunting" by law means NOBODY, not even the landowner is legally allowed to hunt it!
You better just stick to "No Trespassing Without Written Permission" and add "Trespassers Will Be Prosecuted" then hope for the best because trespassers trespass, plain and simple, signs or no signs...
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HaHa, who told you that?
I suppose if he hangs a No Trespassing sign then his family can't come home either.
The land owner has to press charges so he would have to report his self.
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01-23-2024, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank_NK28
You do realize land posted "No Hunting" by law means NOBODY, not even the landowner is legally allowed to hunt it!
You better just stick to "No Trespassing Without Written Permission" and add "Trespassers Will Be Prosecuted" then hope for the best because trespassers trespass, plain and simple, signs or no signs...
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Not true in Alberta or Saskatchewan.We had a guy threaten to call F&W , and report us for hunting on land posted no hunting, and for using an atv before noon. The landowner told him to go ahead, F&W knows where he lives.
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01-23-2024, 12:14 PM
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Always thought, that land posted 'No Hunting" etc then no one is allowed to legally hunt on that land.
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01-23-2024, 12:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klomas98
Who all hunts in 228?
There will be some minor changes in a couple of sections, that won't effect most of you guys and gals.
There is some land west of Demay Lake that will NOT be OPEN for hunting anymore. Just look for the new No Hunting signs.
A group of us have received written permission from the landowner to hunt on his land.... and he has not given any others permission.
We are very experienced hunters, and the owner will press charges if you guys are on his land. We have been told if they do say they have permission that they are lying and politely send them on their way.
Last season he was disgusted by the number of hunters on his 8 quarter sections again without being allowed there. Dozens he said, Deer just getting slaughtered.
One hunter shot and gutted a deer only 200 yards from his sister's home. That is dangerous guys and totally disrespectful. We as a group are better than that.
Each area that our group will be hunting will be clearly marked NO HUNTING AND NO TRESPASSING. I will be personally posting a few hundred signs, We just want a nice peaceful and safe hunt.
Please, follow the signs. when people go on somebody else's land, without asking it, ruins it for all of us hunters,
This was not meant to offend anybody, as 99% of you are awesome and respectful people. I am sorry for having to post this on here.
Feedback and comments are welcome
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01-23-2024, 01:12 PM
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That would be my guess.
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01-23-2024, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klomas98
Who all hunts in 228?
There is some land west of Demay Lake that will NOT be OPEN for hunting anymore.
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Where is Demay Lake? I live in 228 as well and have never heard of it...
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01-23-2024, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Battle Rat
That would be my guess.
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Likely not lol
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01-23-2024, 02:06 PM
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I’m so disappointed. I really like hunting that land. Never ever thought about asking permission there cause my cousins friend said he asked every year and never had a problem. Fields. Were pretty smooth also, could fly across them in a pick up. Oh well, I’m sure we will find some place else to hunt.
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01-23-2024, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf
Always thought, that land posted 'No Hunting" etc then no one is allowed to legally hunt on that land.
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The landowner, or anyone with permission can hunt regardless of the wording on the sign.
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01-25-2024, 07:37 AM
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Not sure your post will have the intended result you want. For example, there's GPS coordinates to the lake, you've narrowed down which sections of land are over run with deer. All anyone needs to do is stop in and ask for permission now.
If what you say is true that the 8 sections of land owned by one guy won't let new hunters on, I'd move on to the nieghboring properties if there is that many deer around.
You've made it as easy as ever for a new hunter to get out and find a new spot.
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01-25-2024, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by edmsmith
Not sure your post will have the intended result you want. For example, there's GPS coordinates to the lake, you've narrowed down which sections of land are over run with deer. All anyone needs to do is stop in and ask for permission now.
If what you say is true that the 8 sections of land owned by one guy won't let new hunters on, I'd move on to the nieghboring properties if there is that many deer around.
You've made it as easy as ever for a new hunter to get out and find a new spot.
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The reality is, if you find a good hunting location, it's best to not draw attention to it.
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01-25-2024, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
The reality is, if you find a good hunting location, it's best to not draw attention to it.
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My family and I hunt that zone a lot. Very rarely hunted that small area but ill make a point to knock on doors and say hello now.
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01-25-2024, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by edmsmith
My family and I hunt that zone a lot. Very rarely hunted that small area but ill make a point to knock on doors and say hello now.
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Lol. Maybe that was the point. Like I said, a pretty weird post.
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02-07-2024, 04:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klomas98
Who all hunts in 228?
There will be some minor changes in a couple of sections, that won't effect most of you guys and gals.
A group of us have received written permission from the landowner to hunt on his land.... and he has not given any others permission.
I will be personally posting a few hundred signs
I am sorry for having to post this on here.
Feedback and comments are welcome
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Cool story
Congratulations
I'm sure we're all super jealous that we won't get to hunt 2 sections of "exclusive" land that has a hundred signs on it
No you didn't have to post this here
Maybe stick to asking for people's fishing spots
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02-07-2024, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by albertadave
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I don't know about outfitter, but a group of guys that has paid for access is probably a better bet.
As the saying goes " money talks, bullsh$t walks"
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02-07-2024, 06:59 AM
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Love how everyone instantly starts throwing out accusations of illegally paying for access or must be an outfitter
Reality there is a ton of hunters who are granted exclusive access do to simply developing a relationship with a landowner. There is also a ton of landowners who are sick of idiots and became more restrictive about access or don’t give access anymore. I also know landowners who just don’t want a free for all on their land
More likely the OP just thinks he is getting the word out in hopes of deterring people from trespassing but reality is slob idiots who intentionally trespass are not going to give a crap about signs or that someone has exclusive access. There is also a low % chance that he is even going to reach those with a past of trespassing on this property by posting it on AO
But let the conspiracy’s fly so I think he is blackmailing the landowner with photos of him cheating on his wife because really there is no other way to get exclusive permission to hunt from a landowner
Just like a bunch of old farts spreading negative gossip with no facts over coffee at A&W
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02-07-2024, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Smoky buck
Love how everyone instantly starts throwing out accusations of illegally paying for access or must be an outfitter
Reality there is a ton of hunters who are granted exclusive access do to simply developing a relationship with a landowner. There is also a ton of landowners who are sick of idiots and became more restrictive about access or don’t give access anymore. I also know landowners who just don’t want a free for all on their land
More likely the OP just thinks he is getting the word out in hopes of deterring people from trespassing but reality is slob idiots who intentionally trespass are not going to give a crap about signs or that someone has exclusive access. There is also a low % chance that he is even going to reach those with a past of trespassing on this property by posting it on AO
But let the conspiracy’s fly so I think he is blackmailing the landowner with photos of him cheating on his wife because really there is no other way to get exclusive permission to hunt from a landowner
Just like a bunch of old farts spreading negative gossip with no facts over coffee at A&W
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Yup this ^^^^^ correctamundo we have exclusive access to a number of properties for the exact reason you stated, landowners are tired of slobs tearing around on their land and leaving behind a mess, we all know how a couple of irresponsible entitled hunters can leave a bad taste in a landowners mouth.
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02-07-2024, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by waldedw
Yup this ^^^^^ correctamundo we have exclusive access to a number of properties for the exact reason you stated, landowners are tired of slobs tearing around on their land and leaving behind a mess, we all know how a couple of irresponsible entitled hunters can leave a bad taste in a landowners mouth.
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I have had landowners offer exclusive access, without being asked. One person wanted some deer removed, because they were eating his shrubs, but he wanted someone he trusted hunting his home quarter. Another landowner, and AO member, offered us access, because he was sick and tired of dealing with a couple of disrespectful outfitters.
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02-07-2024, 08:26 AM
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Exactly what I thought , just matter of securing the area for the clients , I do not hunt private lands at all but this is a weird post
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02-07-2024, 08:42 AM
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My buddy owns a lot of land out that way also but on the other side of 834 . He told me any farmer out there he knows well ,and can get me on any land .Just might take him up on that invite now
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