Hutterites extorted by animal rights group near Fort Macleod

[Skoaltender]

these groups are getting worse and worse.

[cowmanbob]

Originally Posted by Off in the Bushes

If a struggle had broken out in the barn and the RCMP started to forcefully detain people, what would that impact been on the birds in the barn? What if the use of pepper spray was required? I think this may have been the most peaceful resolution for the colony to secure the lively hood of the birds.

Now if they brought disease in and the birds start dying or are stressed and lose weight I think they should sew for punitive damages.

By this logic a group could trespass on my property take five horses with the rcmp present just to avoid disturbing the other livestock..

[barbless]

Originally Posted by Albertadiver

Here's what I would have done!

https://speedsociety.com/angry-farme...g-on-his-land/

Ha ha I would show em how to build a potato gun and launch the turds. Even at close range. They are peaceful and non violent society and that could be why they were targeted. That's too bad it happened. As said that could open up the door for other vermin. Besides, most, if not all protesters, that is their job. Guess they got hungry. Don't know what to say other than, those mo foes are chicken c&it low life scum of the earth.

[pikergolf]

Sent emails to both my MLA and MP. Challenged my MLA about getting rid of the RCMP and getting an Alberta Provincial Police Force.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Off in the Bushes

If a struggle had broken out in the barn and the RCMP started to forcefully detain people, what would that impact been on the birds in the barn? What if the use of pepper spray was required? I think this may have been the most peaceful resolution for the colony to secure the lively hood of the birds.

Now if they brought disease in and the birds start dying or are stressed and lose weight I think they should sew for punitive damages.

Allowing these scumbags to get away with extortion, on top of trespassing, was not the right decision. Now they will use this tactic in the future, and similar incidents will occur. Had the police forcibly removed them all, and used force and charged anyone that resisted, they would be less inclined to continue their illegal activities.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

Very good, yet just making a statement has limited effect.

As a suggestion, be sure to ask a question and request that they answer it.

This makes the office take some action (respond to you), which will hopefully create some momentum.

So what question did y ask your MP & MLA? I will judge mine by the quality of their responses. A failure to respond at all will tell me something too. Will let u guys know what I get for responses.

[barbless]

Why don't they protest an Aryan Nations gathering. Screaming their "Hell no we won't go you gotta go"

[guywiththemule]

Disgusting ! Retired and passed-on RCMP officers would be ashamed of this injustice .

[270person]

They deserve a nice long time in jail cooling their heels. A jail with only Turkey on the menu for lunch and supper.

[cody j]

Originally Posted by cowmanbob

By this logic a group could trespass on my property take five horses with the rcmp present just to avoid disturbing the other livestock..

My thoughts exactly, if this happened at a feedlot would the RCMP have helped them load a stock trailer full of steers? I don’t see the difference if it’s turkeys horses or cattle.

[NinjaHunter]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

What use are the RCMP, if they won't remove trespassers from private property, and they actually encourage extortion? The trespassers should all have been arrested, and taken away in handcuffs.

Property rights? What are those? I thought those things are out of children's fairytales. Cause from my current understanding of property rights in Canada are those in the political ruling class along with their enforcers have them, but the rest of us Canadians plebs don't. And are told to shove it.

[Bigwoodsman]

Law abiding tax payers, people who mind their own business have no rights in Canada anymore. When politicians can and do interfere with our laws, when politicians interfere and direct our national police force, this is what we get.

It’s getting harder by the day to be a proud Canadian!

BW

[KC1]

Originally Posted by cowmanbob

By this logic a group could trespass on my property take five horses with the rcmp present just to avoid disturbing the other livestock..

Yes, but it happens on my farm there will be 'blood in the streets 'and I will end up in jail.
If a trucker at Olymel gently bumps a protester and gets a $750 fine you can imagine what will happen to the average farmer.
We should have 'castle 'law,just like in the US.

[TargetRick]

I strongly disagree with , because of what I have seen on Hutterite farms. I used to work at the #1 (we thought) ag marketing agency in Calgary, and every year they would take us on a tour of ag operations, sort of a good will thing, see actual farm operations.

The Hutterite poultry operation horrified us. Every one of us. Basically, everyone at this agency grew up on farms in various parts of Canada, so we all knew what goes on at farms. But this was just horrifying. This was a massive chicken barn, not turkeys, but I have no reason to believe turkey operations were any different.

The birds were penned up close to each other, beaks removed, hardly a scrap of natural light. The Hutterite host explained that lights were kept on 24 hours a day, to get maximum production time out of each bird.

I didn't say anything, but another person asked if they don't feel sorry for such birds, being kept like that? The Hutterite host explained, quite honestly it seemed, that birds don't have feelings. He really didn't understand why they should change any aspect of this operation.

He went on to explain that the Safeway's trucks picked up up finish birds every day of the week. So those birds were going straight to our grocery stores.

Now, my family has dealt with Hutterites since 1965 - sold three large farms to them. We dealt with Hutterite people all the time, and the have fine qualities. But in poultry operations, they are the cruellest (and I mean that word 'cruel' exactly) and most heartless cash-grubbers you've ever met. I could never defend them on that.

So I defend those animal rights activists on this. Yes, I live in BC now, but I offer actual evidence from myself and other working ag specialists in AB that Hutterite poultry operations are downright wicked, and do need to be changed. I'm not much into religion these days either, but I swear that if Jesus Christ himself walked into a Hutterite poultry operation, he would sweep those operators right out of the barn, and 'chastise them spitefully' for what they do.

I suspect all that above will cause a bit of a stir, but bring it on. It's the truth.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by TargetRick

I strongly disagree with , because of what I have seen on Hutterite farms. I used to work at the #1 (we thought) ag marketing agency in Calgary, and every year they would take us on a tour of ag operations, sort of a good will thing, see actual farm operations.

The Hutterite poultry operation horrified us. Every one of us. Basically, everyone at this agency grew up on farms in various parts of Canada, so we all knew what goes on at farms. But this was just horrifying. This was a massive chicken barn, not turkeys, but I have no reason to believe turkey operations were any different.

The birds were penned up close to each other, beaks removed, hardly a scrap of natural light. The Hutterite host explained that lights were kept on 24 hours a day, to get maximum production time out of each bird.

I didn't say anything, but another person asked if they don't feel sorry for such birds, being kept like that? The Hutterite host explained, quite honestly it seemed, that birds don't have feelings. He really didn't understand why they should change any aspect of this operation.

He went on to explain that the Safeway's trucks picked up up finish birds every day of the week. So those birds were going straight to our grocery stores.

Now, my family has dealt with Hutterites since 1965 - sold three large farms to them. We dealt with Hutterite people all the time, and the have fine qualities. But in poultry operations, they are the cruellest (and I mean that word 'cruel' exactly) and most heartless cash-grubbers you've ever met. I could never defend them on that.

So I defend those animal rights activists on this. Yes, I live in BC now, but I offer actual evidence from myself and other working ag specialists in AB that Hutterite poultry operations are downright wicked, and do need to be changed. I'm not much into religion these days either, but I swear that if Jesus Christ himself walked into a Hutterite poultry operation, he would sweep those operators right out of the barn, and 'chastise them spitefully' for what they do.

I suspect all that above will cause a bit of a stir, but bring it on. It's the truth.

The video is right there for you to see.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by TargetRick

I strongly disagree with , because of what I have seen on Hutterite farms. I used to work at the #1 (we thought) ag marketing agency in Calgary, and every year they would take us on a tour of ag operations, sort of a good will thing, see actual farm operations.

The Hutterite poultry operation horrified us. Every one of us. Basically, everyone at this agency grew up on farms in various parts of Canada, so we all knew what goes on at farms. But this was just horrifying. This was a massive chicken barn, not turkeys, but I have no reason to believe turkey operations were any different.

The birds were penned up close to each other, beaks removed, hardly a scrap of natural light. The Hutterite host explained that lights were kept on 24 hours a day, to get maximum production time out of each bird.

I didn't say anything, but another person asked if they don't feel sorry for such birds, being kept like that? The Hutterite host explained, quite honestly it seemed, that birds don't have feelings. He really didn't understand why they should change any aspect of this operation.

He went on to explain that the Safeway's trucks picked up up finish birds every day of the week. So those birds were going straight to our grocery stores.

Now, my family has dealt with Hutterites since 1965 - sold three large farms to them. We dealt with Hutterite people all the time, and the have fine qualities. But in poultry operations, they are the cruellest (and I mean that word 'cruel' exactly) and most heartless cash-grubbers you've ever met. I could never defend them on that.

So I defend those animal rights activists on this. Yes, I live in BC now, but I offer actual evidence from myself and other working ag specialists in AB that Hutterite poultry operations are downright wicked, and do need to be changed. I'm not much into religion these days either, but I swear that if Jesus Christ himself walked into a Hutterite poultry operation, he would sweep those operators right out of the barn, and 'chastise them spitefully' for what they do.

I suspect all that above will cause a bit of a stir, but bring it on. It's the truth.

So you support illegal trespassing and extortion?

[vcmm]

Originally Posted by TargetRick

I strongly disagree with , because of what I have seen on Hutterite farms. I used to work at the #1 (we thought) ag marketing agency in Calgary, and every year they would take us on a tour of ag operations, sort of a good will thing, see actual farm operations.

The Hutterite poultry operation horrified us. Every one of us. Basically, everyone at this agency grew up on farms in various parts of Canada, so we all knew what goes on at farms. But this was just horrifying. This was a massive chicken barn, not turkeys, but I have no reason to believe turkey operations were any different.

The birds were penned up close to each other, beaks removed, hardly a scrap of natural light. The Hutterite host explained that lights were kept on 24 hours a day, to get maximum production time out of each bird.

I didn't say anything, but another person asked if they don't feel sorry for such birds, being kept like that? The Hutterite host explained, quite honestly it seemed, that birds don't have feelings. He really didn't understand why they should change any aspect of this operation.

He went on to explain that the Safeway's trucks picked up up finish birds every day of the week. So those birds were going straight to our grocery stores.

Now, my family has dealt with Hutterites since 1965 - sold three large farms to them. We dealt with Hutterite people all the time, and the have fine qualities. But in poultry operations, they are the cruellest (and I mean that word 'cruel' exactly) and most heartless cash-grubbers you've ever met. I could never defend them on that.

So I defend those animal rights activists on this. Yes, I live in BC now, but I offer actual evidence from myself and other working ag specialists in AB that Hutterite poultry operations are downright wicked, and do need to be changed. I'm not much into religion these days either, but I swear that if Jesus Christ himself walked into a Hutterite poultry operation, he would sweep those operators right out of the barn, and 'chastise them spitefully' for what they do.

I suspect all that above will cause a bit of a stir, but bring it on. It's the truth.

Do you know that these places are checked by inspection. Bio hazard is a big deal. The government could order them to euthanize all the birds because of this stupidity!

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by TargetRick

I strongly disagree with , because of what I have seen on Hutterite farms. I used to work at the #1 (we thought) ag marketing agency in Calgary, and every year they would take us on a tour of ag operations, sort of a good will thing, see actual farm operations.

The Hutterite poultry operation horrified us. Every one of us. Basically, everyone at this agency grew up on farms in various parts of Canada, so we all knew what goes on at farms. But this was just horrifying. This was a massive chicken barn, not turkeys, but I have no reason to believe turkey operations were any different.

The birds were penned up close to each other, beaks removed, hardly a scrap of natural light. The Hutterite host explained that lights were kept on 24 hours a day, to get maximum production time out of each bird.

I didn't say anything, but another person asked if they don't feel sorry for such birds, being kept like that? The Hutterite host explained, quite honestly it seemed, that birds don't have feelings. He really didn't understand why they should change any aspect of this operation.

He went on to explain that the Safeway's trucks picked up up finish birds every day of the week. So those birds were going straight to our grocery stores.

Now, my family has dealt with Hutterites since 1965 - sold three large farms to them. We dealt with Hutterite people all the time, and the have fine qualities. But in poultry operations, they are the cruellest (and I mean that word 'cruel' exactly) and most heartless cash-grubbers you've ever met. I could never defend them on that.

So I defend those animal rights activists on this. Yes, I live in BC now, but I offer actual evidence from myself and other working ag specialists in AB that Hutterite poultry operations are downright wicked, and do need to be changed. I'm not much into religion these days either, but I swear that if Jesus Christ himself walked into a Hutterite poultry operation, he would sweep those operators right out of the barn, and 'chastise them spitefully' for what they do.

I suspect all that above will cause a bit of a stir, but bring it on. It's the truth.

Please feel free to run off to your local grocery store and offer them TEN times what your paying now for your eggs, chicken wings, fried chicken and roastary chicken..Then offer them 5 times as much for your chicken soup and dog food..and if you still have money in your wallet please feel free to give the fast food joint a few extra bucks for your crunchy chicken salad....

It costs money to live in utopia..

Are the conditions ideal in any farming operation?? NO, but you vote with your wallet EVERY time you by crap from China....or you bitch about the price of groceries in the local store... please feel free to buy back your farms and show us the proper way to raise livestock.....I will wait.

[Zuludog]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Window tint, mudflaps and photo radar are more important... stolen turkeys cost money and don’t generate a dime.

All the activists need to be charged with theft and extortion.

LC

This^^

[vcmm]

"He went on to explain that the Safeway's trucks picked up up finish birds every day of the week. So those birds were going straight to our grocery stores."

I'll call you on that one. All of Safeways products back then either came out of their warehouse or their Lucerne plant. This I know for a fact.

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by vcmm

"He went on to explain that the Safeway's trucks picked up up finish birds every day of the week. So those birds were going straight to our grocery stores."

I'll call you on that one. All of Safeways products back then either came out of their warehouse or their Lucerne plant. This I know for a fact.

Yes, his statement is outright B.S.

[270person]

Originally Posted by TargetRick

I strongly disagree with , because of what I have seen on Hutterite farms. I used to work at the #1 (we thought) ag marketing agency in Calgary, and every year they would take us on a tour of ag operations, sort of a good will thing, see actual farm operations.

The Hutterite poultry operation horrified us. Every one of us. Basically, everyone at this agency grew up on farms in various parts of Canada, so we all knew what goes on at farms. But this was just horrifying. This was a massive chicken barn, not turkeys, but I have no reason to believe turkey operations were any different.

The birds were penned up close to each other, beaks removed, hardly a scrap of natural light. The Hutterite host explained that lights were kept on 24 hours a day, to get maximum production time out of each bird.

I didn't say anything, but another person asked if they don't feel sorry for such birds, being kept like that? The Hutterite host explained, quite honestly it seemed, that birds don't have feelings. He really didn't understand why they should change any aspect of this operation.

He went on to explain that the Safeway's trucks picked up up finish birds every day of the week. So those birds were going straight to our grocery stores.

Now, my family has dealt with Hutterites since 1965 - sold three large farms to them. We dealt with Hutterite people all the time, and the have fine qualities. But in poultry operations, they are the cruellest (and I mean that word 'cruel' exactly) and most heartless cash-grubbers you've ever met. I could never defend them on that.

So I defend those animal rights activists on this. Yes, I live in BC now, but I offer actual evidence from myself and other working ag specialists in AB that Hutterite poultry operations are downright wicked, and do need to be changed. I'm not much into religion these days either, but I swear that if Jesus Christ himself walked into a Hutterite poultry operation, he would sweep those operators right out of the barn, and 'chastise them spitefully' for what they do.

I suspect all that above will cause a bit of a stir, but bring it on. It's the truth.

You were Ag Ops as what? Receptionist? Your entire post is bogus and you really dont know much about the subject of poultry operations at all. You must have visited only one poultry operation because guess what? Hutterite operations are some of the very best. Good thing you didn't hit a bad one I guess or you'd still be in trauma counselling.

Beaks trimmed? What a concept. Ever seen what chickens do to one another when they arent? Lights on? Dang. Did you know the layer hens are trained Where to lay with flashing lights? The horror.

I've been in barns with 27,000 layer hens. Calm and quiet. Guess why?

You should have just begun your post with the "I support the activists actions" so I could have stopped reading and missed the drivel.

Now go have an Egg McMuffin big fella. You're obviously not getting enough protein. Make sure the egg comes from a poultry operation offering swimming pools, free cocktails, oceanside cabanas, and a 24 hour all you can eat grain bar.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by 270person

You were Ag Ops as what? Receptionist? Your entire post is bogus and you really dont know much about the subject of poultry operations at all. You must have visited only one poultry operation because guess what? Hutterite operations are some of the very best. Good thing you didn't hit a bad one I guess or you'd still be in trauma counselling.

Beaks trimmed? What a concept. Ever seen what chickens do to one another when they arent? Lights on? Dang. Did you know the layer hens are trained Where to lay with flashing lights? The horror.

I've been in barns with 27,000 layer hens. Calm and quiet. Guess why?

You should have just begun your post with the "I support the activists actions" so I could have stopped reading and missed the drivel.

Now go have an Egg McMuffin big fella. You're obviously not getting enough protein. Make sure the egg comes from a poultry operation offering swimming pools, free cocktails, oceanside cabanas, and a 24 hour all you can eat grain bar.

Well said. Can't believe these guys think they can bald face lie and that anyone on here is stupid enough to actually fall for their tactics. Amazing though how many of the general public believe this poop.

[bonedogg]

I have been in a few Hutterite facilities and they are all clean and well run. Birds are in cages with conveyor feeders giving them feed whenever they want it, poop conveyor removing all of the fecal waste under the cage and water on demand. cleaner than most mom & pop pens with a foot of ****e on the ground....these "so called people" needed a hard boot to the butt and a don't come back unless you want more talk! losers..... wow

[KC1]

Originally Posted by TargetRick

I strongly disagree with , because of what I have seen on Hutterite farms. I used to work at the #1 (we thought) ag marketing agency in Calgary, and every year they would take us on a tour of ag operations, sort of a good will thing, see actual farm operations.

The Hutterite poultry operation horrified us. Every one of us. Basically, everyone at this agency grew up on farms in various parts of Canada, so we all knew what goes on at farms. But this was just horrifying. This was a massive chicken barn, not turkeys, but I have no reason to believe turkey operations were any different.

The birds were penned up close to each other, beaks removed, hardly a scrap of natural light. The Hutterite host explained that lights were kept on 24 hours a day, to get maximum production time out of each bird.

I didn't say anything, but another person asked if they don't feel sorry for such birds, being kept like that? The Hutterite host explained, quite honestly it seemed, that birds don't have feelings. He really didn't understand why they should change any aspect of this operation.

He went on to explain that the Safeway's trucks picked up up finish birds every day of the week. So those birds were going straight to our grocery stores.

Now, my family has dealt with Hutterites since 1965 - sold three large farms to them. We dealt with Hutterite people all the time, and the have fine qualities. But in poultry operations, they are the cruellest (and I mean that word 'cruel' exactly) and most heartless cash-grubbers you've ever met. I could never defend them on that.

So I defend those animal rights activists on this. Yes, I live in BC now, but I offer actual evidence from myself and other working ag specialists in AB that Hutterite poultry operations are downright wicked, and do need to be changed. I'm not much into religion these days either, but I swear that if Jesus Christ himself walked into a Hutterite poultry operation, he would sweep those operators right out of the barn, and 'chastise them spitefully' for what they do.

I suspect all that above will cause a bit of a stir, but bring it on. It's the truth.

So you are defending the 'scum of the earth '
Target Rick you are as stupid as Badger defending the protester at Olymel earlier this week.
I don't know what lefties like you two are doing on an outdoor forum.
I visited a colony 3 weeks ago and was impressed with their cleanliness, so how can you even insinuate that it is different. When was last time you visited a poultry barn. Maybe an apology is at its place.

[KC1]

Although I am not a fan of the Rebel, I do have to say that there is an excellent article by Sheila Gunn.
Take home message "The question is not if Canada's farmerscan do their share to feed 8 billion people. The question is whether or not the activists will let us".

[Cageyc]

It’s unfortunate that the hutterites didn’t have to wash out the barn with fire hoses on that day.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Cageyc

It’s unfortunate that the hutterites didn’t have to wash out the barn with fire hoses on that day.

Would have been a good day to spread some liquid manure on the property.

[sns2]

Those people are common criminals and should be treated as such. Force fed manure would be a good start. Hutterite operations are inspected regularly, are very efficient, and abide by legislation. End of story. Too bad they are pacifists.

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by Cageyc

It’s unfortunate that the hutterites didn’t have to wash out the barn with fire on that day.

fixed it..