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Old 10-26-2011, 06:25 PM
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Is leaving a bottle to a farmer who has been kind enough to give you permission to hunt on his land against the rules in any way?
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Old 10-26-2011, 06:28 PM
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Not if it is simply a gift from one new friend to another!
Do it and forgetaboutit!!
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Old 10-26-2011, 06:29 PM
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what's a bottle of rum between friends? Unless he's a recovering alcoholic...haha
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Old 10-26-2011, 06:31 PM
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what's a bottle of rum between friends? Unless he's a recovering alcoholic...haha
I'd be doing back flips if it was a can of Tim Horton's fine ground.....
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Old 10-26-2011, 06:34 PM
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Hey why not a box of chocolates for his wife ))) The farmer can say he got them for her
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Old 10-26-2011, 06:34 PM
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Hey why not a box of chocolates for his wife ))) The farmer can say he got them for her
Even BETTER!!
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Old 10-26-2011, 06:35 PM
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There's no harm in a thank you gift; frankly I think its quite appropriate. Where I go I've done a few plumbing chores for the rancher, and she tries to pay; but I only accept actual cost on parts.

I'd make sure the fellow actually drinks before going the liquor route; so long as the gift is appropriate to them I say have at 'er. If the person is insisting on gifts or money for access then thats another matter entirely. When the landowner granting access is conditional to them recieving some form of reimbursement is where it to crosses the line.
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Old 10-26-2011, 06:36 PM
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absolutely Cat. I little gesture of appreciation to a land owner goes a long way. Be it a bottle of his favorite whisky, can of coffee, pack of fresh sausage..
Cash however, I think is against the rules
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:00 PM
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I will tell you a story.

A farmer gave a guy permission to hunt deer on his land as well as geese.

The hunter thanked the farmer by bringing him some fine cuts of meat and a handshake.

The following Spring the farmer was trying to get rid of the meat he had been given. He did not like deer, and said if he did, he would hunt them himself. (said this to an unknown common aqiaintance)
He added that he really appreciated the gesture.

The same fellow was offered a buffalo by a co workers husband. In fact he was offered several,..

On the slaughter day, 3 men showed up with rifles and the co workers husband with the tractor and some gear.
The buffalo were shot, skinned and quartered with much help from the co workers husband. The men said thank you by giving him a bottle of very nice rye.

A year later they find out that he is a scotch drinker and the rye was still unopened.

I have been involved in many a thankyou gone awry.

What I do now?

When I ask for permission and obtain it, I have a good conversation with the landowner.

At some point I will find out what he likes,...

For example, "do have ere drink a'tall?"

or, "what's yer drink?"

If he says he doesn't drink, then I'll say keep on til find out.

My best reception has always been with Screech. Everyone will try it, and even they hate it, they're usually pleased as they got to taste it and can now talk about how bad Screech is with others.

Another great reception was with a fruitcake... and I mean they were really happy!!!! and one day I put a loaf of rasin bread on the truck seat...
I seen him get in, sit there for a minute and then back in the house to have a few slices...lol
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:30 PM
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Gift Certifcate for the local steakhouse. Can get what he likes, and take the wife as well!
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:46 PM
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The small things matter. I have dropped off gift certificates and such to different farmers for allowing us permission as a thank you. It was never required, requested, or part of a condition of being allowed there. Just a friendly gesture from our hunting group to the land owner as a thank-you.

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Old 10-26-2011, 08:50 PM
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I lend a hand around the farm for the farmer
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:07 PM
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Just being neighbourly, that's all.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:05 PM
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Ive helped fix fences...... and help feed the cattle/horses.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:09 PM
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A bottle won't get you far in Cardston county. Trust me on this.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:38 PM
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Offer them a challoopabob!!!
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:49 PM
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Wild west coast salmon has ensured continuous access to many a ranch.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:05 AM
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A bottle won't get you far in Cardston county. Trust me on this.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:55 AM
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I think giving them a gift is a great idea. I know where we go we help the ranch foreman out, my bf is a heavy duty mechanic so will fix things on the ranch, help chase cows, we've made dinner at the camper for him and another farmer that lets us on his land as well, We've become friends with both of them, and will drive out on a weekend for a coffee or a beer just to visit and bs.
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Old 10-27-2011, 07:25 AM
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I had thought about offering a bottle to a farmer that has great elk hunting on his place and is very accomodating to us but didn't want to have him associate us with drinking and hunting (which we don't). We opted to get him a 100 buck gift certificate to Sobeys. He seemed pretty happy about that.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:18 AM
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A bottle won't get you far in Cardston county. Trust me on this.

I was thinking that too.... maybe Magrath and Raymond areas as well.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:22 AM
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If you chat to a guy long enough you get an idea. I sat in my one landowners shop and noticed all the Bud posters and saw he was drinking one. Next trip out was a sixpack of bottled Bud for him.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:31 AM
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I've never offered booze.........but if the land owner hunts himself cheese smokies and jerky always makes them happy. If not smoked salmon, salmon fillets, and halibut also puts a smile on their face. I keep pretty good relations with all the land owners and it pays off when renewing permission each year. You start a fairly decent friendship and often find myself in most of their houses drinking coffee and bsing. It helps with the scouting because they offer good intel about big bucks,elk, and moose locations. Once you develop good relations with a landowner neighboring properties become easy to gain access as well.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:38 AM
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I drove up to a farmers place to ask for permission. I looked around the yard and spotted him in the back trying to get some big old plow/rake/thing on his tractor. The blocks had sunk so it wouldnt line up. He had his wife and daughter there helping him. (when i say helping I really mean getting in the way) I said Hi can I help and jumped right in. My own two boys were right behind me.
We've been good friends since then. He not only gives me permission, but he tells me where all the game is on the days I come.
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Old 10-27-2011, 08:52 AM
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A bottle won't get you far in Cardston county. Trust me on this.

Nor here in magrath!! lol.
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Old 10-27-2011, 10:04 AM
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I don't think a bottle is wrong, but his family might have other ideas. I've never gifted, just a warm thankyou and any feedback on the exit side, if I've noticed anything worth mentioning (fence condition, injured stock, etc.)
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Old 10-27-2011, 11:19 AM
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I have given a nice bottle of wine on occasion. Make sure they do actauly drink alcohol - I almost gave some to a non-drinking family but found out beforehand they dont drink at all.
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:30 AM
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Is leaving a bottle to a farmer who has been kind enough to give you permission to hunt on his land against the rules in any way?
We have in the past offered gifts for "hospitality" and not for permission
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Old 10-28-2011, 06:06 AM
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A bottle won't get you far in Cardston county. Trust me on this.
Depends on who you talk to...
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:14 AM
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I like to return after making sausage and smokies and give a couple packs of each. They really seem to like it. A case of beer or a bottle of rye/scotch/wine is always good to. When I head down south on my yearly bow hunting trip I stay at a friends place or at his parents if we are hunting near there. The hospitality is fantastic and a bottle of wine is always in order to his mother (who can cook with the best of them). When I am there it is usually hunting the first and last few hours of the day and the rest I am helping on their ranch with whatever the need (fences, tractor work, etc.)
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