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Old 10-20-2011, 03:48 PM
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Posted previously on this topic. Don't get too smug here. Very bad taste, but this could very well be you, next time you finish a wounded bird and some tree hugger happens to see you. Very nice to sit back and be self righteous, but cases like this set precedents and you could very well be the next one who'se name is in the paper. Remember those 500 or whatever, Syncrude ducks ? Absolutely no consequence in the big scheme of things, but cost a couple of million bucks and who knows how the publicity will affect resource development in Alberta.

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Nah. Trying to normalize what this 'tard did and saying it could be one of us? No, he's an asshat, nobody I hunt with or hang with would do what he's done. The only precedent I see that's bad is that this tool could one day hunt here again. The problem here isn't tree huggers or antis, it's the legitimate ammo this moron gave them with his lame actions.

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Old 10-20-2011, 07:19 PM
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The money seems fair but I 'd be happier if he was simply banned for life and shown the border.
He has effectively been banned from ever entering Canada again, unless he has close friends in the federal government down there. Or if he can convince Canada that will bring significant business to Canada with a visit, as in Oil executives.

That is effectively what a criminal conviction does. Except for those with connections as I said.
Even a pardon will not open the border once a person has a criminal conviction on their record. And it works the same way both sides of the border.

Without the connections, a criminal conviction such as a DUI or possession of a controlled substance, IE one joint, will close the border for you for life.

A few years back there was a news story about this very thing. It involved a thirty year old conviction for possession of one joint by a fellow who was 16 years old at the time of the conviction. It was his only conviction for of any charge according to the story I got. As I recall it was on W5.
He had a friend in Winterpeg and so he tried every legal means to obtain permission to enter Canada, every last application was denied.
In the end he walked across the border and wound up nearly freezing to death in a farmers field south of the city.
It was a long and sad story, and quiet likely slanted to make it look worse then it was. Still, I know a couple of guys, personally, one with a DUI conviction and one with an assault conviction who encountered the same brick wall.

I don't believe this guy will ever hunt in Canada again, no matter how much he may want to.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:46 PM
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He has effectively been banned from ever entering Canada again, unless he has close friends in the federal government down there. Or if he can convince Canada that will bring significant business to Canada with a visit, as in Oil executives.

That is effectively what a criminal conviction does. Except for those with connections as I said.
Even a pardon will not open the border once a person has a criminal conviction on their record. And it works the same way both sides of the border.

Without the connections, a criminal conviction such as a DUI or possession of a controlled substance, IE one joint, will close the border for you for life.

A few years back there was a news story about this very thing. It involved a thirty year old conviction for possession of one joint by a fellow who was 16 years old at the time of the conviction. It was his only conviction for of any charge according to the story I got. As I recall it was on W5.
He had a friend in Winterpeg and so he tried every legal means to obtain permission to enter Canada, every last application was denied.
In the end he walked across the border and wound up nearly freezing to death in a farmers field south of the city.
It was a long and sad story, and quiet likely slanted to make it look worse then it was. Still, I know a couple of guys, personally, one with a DUI conviction and one with an assault conviction who encountered the same brick wall.

I don't believe this guy will ever hunt in Canada again, no matter how much he may want to.
Well... that calls for a drink then... doesn't it?
Good riddance...
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:37 PM
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Hope this serves as a lesson for all others who may be in this kind of activities.
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:58 PM
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life time ban in both countries and have to give a quack of monney to ducks unlimated...just to help all the waterfowl he wounded or torcherd then make a public apology in both countries for the crimes against "nature"
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:18 PM
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also sent in a message, thx
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:41 PM
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Ban this Ban that.

We all know "you no who" who was banned, and continued to maintain his guiding operation.

I remember talking to one of the minions who worked for him at that time and it was like his boss was the second coming of Christ.

Remember the old saying: Whiskey talks and Bullxxxxwalks.
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:04 PM
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For what it's worth I sent an email to both bigfoot and Alberta trophy hunts - This is the response I received from Stan Reiser at trophy hunts:


"Thank you for including your address, some do not. Let me say this. with the recent passing of my wife, things have been very hectic around here, and the last thing I have had time for is dealing with a Jeff Foiles issue. Before anyone jumps to conclusions non of Foiles activities were "under my watchful eye". The investigation into Foiles went on for years and we ran undercover agents thru our camp. Some I guided personally. All these agents gave my operation a 100% clean bill of health. Non of my staff, nor myself even remotely faced a chance of having charges brought against them. Foiles cheated on the side and his cameramen turned him in for it. Anything he did was hidden from us. he knew the consequences if I found out he was poaching. I billed myself as the man that taught Jeff Foiles how to count!!!!! We put up with zero infractions around here and back it up. In 30 years of outfitting not one of my staff nor myself has been cited for anything. I would think that not many could say that. I am proud of my record, and yes, I feel terrrible to have my name tied to his in any way, but that is water under the bridge and there is nothing I can do about it. My web site will be changed, but I have more pressing matters to deal with right now. By the way. did you know that every one of Foiles associates-- cmeramen, prostaffs, partners all sought and received immunity in exchange for their testimony. Non of my staff, nor myself even mentioned it. We had done nothing wrong. Guilt by association, I guess."

I have in no way attempted to verify the info in his email - just thought I would throw it out there, take it as you will.
Cheers.

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Old 10-24-2011, 04:12 PM
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For what it's worth I sent an email to both bigfoot and Alberta trophy hunts - This is the response I received from Stan Reiser at trophy hunts:


"Thank you for including your address, some do not. Let me say this. with the recent passing of my wife, things have been very hectic around here, and the last thing I have had time for is dealing with a Jeff Foiles issue. Before anyone jumps to conclusions non of Foiles activities were "under my watchful eye". The investigation into Foiles went on for years and we ran undercover agents thru our camp. Some I guided personally. All these agents gave my operation a 100% clean bill of health. Non of my staff, nor myself even remotely faced a chance of having charges brought against them. Foiles cheated on the side and his cameramen turned him in for it. Anything he did was hidden from us. he knew the consequences if I found out he was poaching. I billed myself as the man that taught Jeff Foiles how to count!!!!! We put up with zero infractions around here and back it up. In 30 years of outfitting not one of my staff nor myself has been cited for anything. I would think that not many could say that. I am proud of my record, and yes, I feel terrrible to have my name tied to his in any way, but that is water under the bridge and there is nothing I can do about it. My web site will be changed, but I have more pressing matters to deal with right now. By the way. did you know that every one of Foiles associates-- cmeramen, prostaffs, partners all sought and received immunity in exchange for their testimony. Non of my staff, nor myself even mentioned it. We had done nothing wrong. Guilt by association, I guess."

I have in no way attempted to verify the info in his email - just thought I would throw it out there, take it as you will.
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Very Interesting. Thanks for posting.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:58 PM
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Some such statements have the stench of denial about them.

This one has the ring of truth. I think. I hope Stan Reiser all the best.

And in case anyone is wondering if I know him.

No I don't, I never heard the name before tonight. I know nothing about him or his operation.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:47 PM
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Very Interesting. Thanks for posting.
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Old 10-27-2011, 10:23 PM
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Forget never let him HUNT in Canada again...how about never let him in Canada again for any reason period? He's a visitor from out of country who can't abide by our laws....banned from our country for life seems reasonable to me.
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:50 AM
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Well known? I've never heard of him before. Anyways hopefully he gets it on both ends!
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