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05-10-2020, 02:31 PM
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They're DEAD in Obed!
I recently fished Obed Lake for the first time. Was disappointed to see four large browns (5-8lbs) dead at the bottom near a popular fishing spot. I know recently guys are posting several photos of nice browns from here. Does this lake winter kill or are these most likely the result of handling mortality?
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05-10-2020, 03:40 PM
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Damn sad if true 😢
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05-10-2020, 03:45 PM
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Obed is a funny lake. Imagine a deep channel of about 30 fow with long flats of about 6 fow. There is a section on the east end by the point that has deeper water, quite close to shore, but that's it.
Used to have no perch, and was stocked with rainbows and brookies, until it became a Brown Trout project, likely because of the perch.
Brookies never did reproduce naturally, even though there was some rock and gravel on the east end. A Real pity.
If the reset was hard enough, and the perch are gone, perhaps wait a year and restock with some brookies, rainbows and tigers?
The Browns were hard to catch at the best of times.
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05-10-2020, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Drewski Canuck
Obed is a funny lake. Imagine a deep channel of about 30 fow with long flats of about 6 fow. There is a section on the east end by the point that has deeper water, quite close to shore, but that's it.
Used to have no perch, and was stocked with rainbows and brookies, until it became a Brown Trout project, likely because of the perch.
Brookies never did reproduce naturally, even though there was some rock and gravel on the east end. A Real pity.
If the reset was hard enough, and the perch are gone, perhaps wait a year and restock with some brookies, rainbows and tigers?
The Browns were hard to catch at the best of times.
Drewski
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Not that there are a ton of brown trout lakes but I like the bow and tiger combo. That could kick that lake up a notch!
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05-10-2020, 06:29 PM
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That would be a shame.
The whole attraction to that lake was Browns. And because most people found them very hard to catch, you don't get as much traffic in there as you might in other lakes that size near the highway.
Stocking more bows and introducing tigers would bring 10 times the people into that lake. The tigers would also likely over compete with the existing trout that are in there as well.
I would restock browns.
Just my opinion.
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05-10-2020, 06:37 PM
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No rainbows keep it as a brown fishery
There is enough rainbow trout fisheries
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05-10-2020, 06:42 PM
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No rainbows keep it as a brown fishery
There is enough rainbow trout fisheries
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Agree! Rainbow lakes are on nearly every corner. Let’s keep some unique fisheries around.
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05-10-2020, 09:18 PM
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A few years ago the lake had brookies and brown at the same time. I also caught a splake in there about the same time. The biologist figured that was an accident at the hatchery.
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05-11-2020, 07:28 AM
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It was said rainbows and tigers. Not just rainbows. Then how about just tigers?
As a brown trout fishery, marginal at best and pretty quiet. Then again, maybe some want to keep it that way...
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05-11-2020, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SNAPFisher
It was said rainbows and tigers. Not just rainbows. Then how about just tigers?
As a brown trout fishery, marginal at best and pretty quiet. Then again, maybe some want to keep it that way...
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Leave it be quality is not always about quantity. Adding tigers or rainbows would not change what the lake can sustain for numbers either. Don’t need sterile fish added to the lake increasing competition for resources and oxygen
Effort put in to habitat sure but keep it as browns
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05-11-2020, 08:11 AM
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Stocked rainbows don't have a long lifespan, could have been plain old fish kicking off.
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05-11-2020, 08:11 AM
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Surprised the govt hasn’t dumped walleye into that lake. Like we need more walleye fisheries.
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05-11-2020, 08:46 AM
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Obed gets thrashed as a perch lake. Maybe 1 in 10 or less are there for the browns. It's plenty busy, the parking area is usually full on weekends and the campground is always busy for a mud lot.
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05-11-2020, 10:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoky buck
Leave it be quality is not always about quantity. Adding tigers or rainbows would not change what the lake can sustain for numbers either. Don’t need sterile fish added to the lake increasing competition for resources and oxygen
Effort put in to habitat sure but keep it as browns
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Good points. I was thinking quality tigers over quality browns
Might make it a bit more interesting.
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05-11-2020, 01:03 PM
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Obed Brown ...
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05-11-2020, 01:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SNAPFisher
Good points. I was thinking quality tigers over quality browns
Might make it a bit more interesting.
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Hey we all have fish we prefer I can understand that
Myself when it comes to trout browns are high on the list for me and rainbows are rock bottom. Plus I always prefer stocking fish that can reproduce that can add to a body of water vs sterile fish that will need to be replaced
Just my outlook combined with a little personal preference
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05-11-2020, 01:09 PM
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Obed Brown ...
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Looks like a nice brown but next time don’t stretch your arms out so far. I make fun of my dad for that pose all the time lol
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05-11-2020, 01:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoky buck
Looks like a nice brown but next time don’t stretch your arms out so far. I make fun of my dad for that pose all the time lol
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I know right? I thought about that before I posted. That was a few years ago when I started fishing again after being away for 30 years. I don't do that anymore lol. Was still a 6lb beast, was really happy all the same!
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05-11-2020, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Vapor
I know right? I thought about that before I posted. That was a few years ago when I started fishing again after being away for 30 years. I don't do that anymore lol. Was still a 6lb beast, was really happy all the same!
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All good just have to poke a little fun anytime I see that pose
I tell my Dad all the time if he learned how to catch bigger fish he would not have to hold them out to make them look bigger
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05-12-2020, 10:03 PM
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every lake has mortality
Obed is no differn't
if you spend time on your lake you will find out the secrets
Obed has some nice Brown's n perch
just watched young guy n his girlfriend catch some nice ones
Sean n Krystal had a very nice day
https://www.instagram.com/fishinggeeks/
aahhh such is fishing
David
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05-13-2020, 01:20 PM
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Obed has had some winter kill EVERY year. No need to change from Browns but sure add a few Tigers for fun.
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05-13-2020, 02:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by McLeod
Obed has had some winter kill EVERY year. No need to change from Browns but sure add a few Tigers for fun.
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Hey why not , I see they put 70,000 tigers in Blood Indian along with Browns and Brookies .
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05-13-2020, 03:21 PM
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Huh?
I am not sure 4 dead brown trout would trigger a major overhaul of how the lake is managed or stocked.
That said, as long as were spitballing here, I would leave browns in Obed, and stock some Tiger trout. Apparently they have the jaw structure - the ability and apparently the desire - to kill and eat perch. I'm talking bigger perch. I believe browns generally target small (very small) perch.
Can anyone confirm? Haven't read studies on that myself, so all I've heard is 3rd party hearsay (though its from people I generally trust as sources...)
As for rainbows...you could stock some brooders in there for kicks and giggles, much like they do for Cow.
Speaking of which, that is one fishery I'd like to see turned back into a rainbow trout fishery. I know (before someone chimes in) it was historically pike and perch, but, for a while, it was THE place to fish for rainbow trout.
Too bad...in that area, Beaver, Mitchell, Phyllis - but especially Beaver - could use some relief from the circus gong show crowds on that lake. Cow would be ideal.
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05-13-2020, 03:43 PM
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Tigers will eat perch. Lots of dace minnows in Obed
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05-14-2020, 07:57 AM
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Good to know that lake has some winterkill. I wasn't sure.
I did catch a 16" rainbow there a week ago. Not sure how that got in there, my guess would be a mistake during the time of stocking?
Interesting lake though, I will be back.
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05-14-2020, 08:03 AM
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That's possible but there used to be Rainbows and Brook trout and there are inlets so who know.Nature is a mad scientist ! And back in the 80's there were a few ?
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05-14-2020, 09:39 AM
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If you go to the creek where it runs out of Summit there are lots of small Rainbows, It is possible they could get up the creek to the lake.
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05-14-2020, 09:54 AM
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Guess the GEEKS have poor release protocols!
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05-24-2020, 10:21 PM
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Proof that they aren’t dead.
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05-24-2020, 11:37 PM
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Why so small??
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