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Old 04-14-2021, 07:23 PM
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Just looking to take my boy out on his first gopher hunting. The usual place I go is not allowing permission currently. Just curious if someone in the community can help me out.

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Old 04-15-2021, 07:41 AM
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Not to detail the thread but I think its get harder for farmers and ranchers to allow hunting on their property because of insurance and liability reasons.

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Old 04-15-2021, 10:14 AM
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Not to detail the thread but I think its get harder for farmers and ranchers to allow hunting on their property because of insurance and liability reasons.

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Do not spread nonsense. You have no idea what you are talking about. There is specific legislation in Alberta that protects landowners from liability and being sued by folks on their land.
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Old 04-15-2021, 02:10 PM
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Oh is that so. Our lawyers and account advice us other wise. We farm and ranch over 30000 acres and I have no idea what I'm talked about. You have no idea what our insurance and premiums are. Our ablerta government does nothing to protect farmers and ranchers. Our neighbor lost his farm because some snowmobilers got hurt on his land and his fence.

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Our neighbors are being sued 4 million because a guy showed up in their yard , got out of his truck, slipped on ice and hurt his back. Show me the article that's states farmers are protect.

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i would like to see this info as well
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Old 04-15-2021, 02:37 PM
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Alberta Occupiers' Liability Act

Section 6.1

Recreational users

6.1(1) The liability of an occupier to a person who uses the premises described in subsection (2) or a portion of them for a recreational purpose shall be determined as if the person was a trespasser unless the occupier

(a) receives payment for the entry or activity of the person, other than a benefit or payment received from a government or government agency or non-profit recreation club or association, or

(b) is providing the person with living accommodation on the premises.

(2) Subsection (1) applies to the following:

(a) rural premises that are

(i) used for agricultural purposes including land under cultivation,

(ii) vacant or undeveloped premises, and

(iii) forested or wilderness premises;

(b) golf courses when not open for playing;

(c) utility rights-of-way excluding structures located on them;

(d) recreational trails reasonably marked as such.
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And with regards to tresspassers


Trespassers

12(1) Subject to subsection (2) and (3) and to section 13, an occupier does not owe a duty of care to a trespasser on the occupier’s premises.

(2) Where a trespasser is not a criminal trespasser, an occupier is not liable to the trespasser for damages for death of or injury to the trespasser unless the death or injury results from the occupier’s wilful or reckless conduct.

(3) Where a trespasser is a criminal trespasser, no action lies against the occupier for damages for death of or injury to the trespasser unless the death or injury is caused by conduct of the occupier that

(a) is wilful and grossly disproportionate in the circumstances, and

(b) results in the occupier being convicted of an offence under the Criminal Code (Canada) that is prosecuted by indictment.

(4) For the purposes of subsections (2) and (3), a trespasser is a criminal trespasser if the occupier has reasonable grounds to believe that the trespasser is committing or is about to commit an offence under the Criminal Code (Canada).

(5) For the purposes of subsection (3), an occupier is deemed not to be convicted of an offence until the period limited by law for the commencement of an appeal from the conviction has elapsed or the appeal taken from the conviction has concluded or been abandoned.

(6) This section applies to any action brought against an occupier by a trespasser on the occupier’s premises in relation to a trespass occurring on or after January 1, 2018, irrespective of whether the action is brought before or after the coming into force of this section.

RSA 2000 cO‑4 s12;2019 c23 s2
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And with regards to tresspassers


Trespassers

12(1) Subject to subsection (2) and (3) and to section 13, an occupier does not owe a duty of care to a trespasser on the occupier’s premises.

(2) Where a trespasser is not a criminal trespasser, an occupier is not liable to the trespasser for damages for death of or injury to the trespasser unless the death or injury results from the occupier’s wilful or reckless conduct.

(3) Where a trespasser is a criminal trespasser, no action lies against the occupier for damages for death of or injury to the trespasser unless the death or injury is caused by conduct of the occupier that

(a) is wilful and grossly disproportionate in the circumstances, and

(b) results in the occupier being convicted of an offence under the Criminal Code (Canada) that is prosecuted by indictment.

(4) For the purposes of subsections (2) and (3), a trespasser is a criminal trespasser if the occupier has reasonable grounds to believe that the trespasser is committing or is about to commit an offence under the Criminal Code (Canada).

(5) For the purposes of subsection (3), an occupier is deemed not to be convicted of an offence until the period limited by law for the commencement of an appeal from the conviction has elapsed or the appeal taken from the conviction has concluded or been abandoned.

(6) This section applies to any action brought against an occupier by a trespasser on the occupier’s premises in relation to a trespass occurring on or after January 1, 2018, irrespective of whether the action is brought before or after the coming into force of this section.

RSA 2000 cO‑4 s12;2019 c23 s2

Thank you, I was just in the process of posting that. For anyone interested you can pull up a full PDF of the Act using Google and download it for free. Coy- you need some new lawyers.
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nice thanks for the info
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Anyways, now that the derail is over. OP your best bet is to go for a drive and knock on some doors, be polite and you should have no trouble getting permission.
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Place a want ad at the Airdrie UFA . I did years ago , got a call from a farmer that allowed rimfires only 15 min drive from my house.
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Old 04-15-2021, 03:22 PM
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Just be care full who you let on your land things do not all ways go good for the land owner .
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Interesting. Thanks for thenheads up

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Old 04-15-2021, 03:28 PM
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Hi all,



Just looking to take my boy out on his first gopher hunting. The usual place I go is not allowing permission currently. Just curious if someone in the community can help me out.



Thank you,
If you don't mind traveling a couple hours . We ve a few quarters with plenty gophers on them

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Thank you, I was just in the process of posting that. For anyone interested you can pull up a full PDF of the Act using Google and download it for free. Coy- you need some new lawyers.
Thank for the info
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