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Old 05-26-2017, 04:15 PM
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So here is a great way to help bring in some of that tax money the governments need. This is from Australia but how long before we see these type of antics in Alberta.

http://www.news.com.au/national/quee...20a2f0ca2f0daf

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Old 05-26-2017, 04:26 PM
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That is absolutely ridiculous.
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Old 05-26-2017, 04:31 PM
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Wondering when it will be coming? HA. That sort of thing happens all the time here as well.
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Old 05-26-2017, 04:41 PM
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there been a uptrend in radar ticket handed out the 10km over range...
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Old 05-26-2017, 04:42 PM
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I am not surprised that the local authorities haven't already gone down this road. Shameless NDP cash grabs to pay for the spend like "drunken sailors"
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there been a uptrend in radar ticket handed out the 10km over range...
How true. My bud picked up a ticket for 6/KMH over on a secondary hiway in the middle of nowhere.

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How true. My bud picked up a ticket for 6/KMH over on a secondary hiway in the middle of nowhere.

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Ok that one I can't side with the RCMP on, 10km over ya I get it, no need to 120+ on a 110 but 6km? That's a cranky cop.
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Wonder how many serious injuries occur on a boat ramp. that could be prevented by wearing a seatbelt.
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Helmets for everyone.
We will have to set up a helmet registry to make sure everyone has one. Register for $135.00 a year and if caught outside not wearing it $300.00.

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Old 05-27-2017, 08:35 AM
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Remember everyone should secure there boat/load before heading up the ramp. Get all of those straps on!! If it just saves one life.

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Only an idiot would wear a seatbelt while backing a boat into the water. If there is a vehicle issue, and the vehicle ends up in the water, a seatbelt will delay your ability to get out of the vehicle to avoid drowning.
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Good Albertans have had enough paying Tax.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ucks-1.4133667
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Wonder how many serious injuries occur on a boat ramp that could be prevented by wearing a seatbelt.

I was thinking the same thing, it would be nice to see the numerous pie charts and graphs that document and analyze the epidemic of boat-ramp carnage that is plaguing Australia and beyond. Oh the humanity!
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Only an idiot would wear a seatbelt while backing a boat into the water. If there is a vehicle issue, and the vehicle ends up in the water, a seatbelt will delay your ability to get out of the vehicle to avoid drowning.
I never wear one on lakes ice fishing for those reasons. My truck goes down I want out fast. Often wondered if the rc's or other officers justify not wearing one on the frozen lake. IMO should be charged for wearing one.
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Baltimore is working with a company that will tell them when you were speeding and where, via your gps. so if you were at playground zone xyz at 3:30pm and your onboard system says you were going 40km, ticket in the mail.
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I got a ticket June last year, aprx 1-2 km past road workers,
I stopped for sign persons at equipment and where the work was going on, then carried on.
A Km or so down the Rd, I get pulled over.
As he's behind me I'm looking around for signs, pile-ons etc, none.
He says I'm doing 82 in a construction zone, 50 zone.
I say I was doing 50 and less where workers were, and stopped for sign person.
He agrees but says it's still 50 k til u see construction ends signs.
I say, well where is this sign, he says aprx another km ahead.
So I'm looking, no signs n sight, new white line pavement. Sign was a ways up.
I seen later. He writes the ticket, $274, I say the only problem I have with this ticket is it's written up the same was as if I blew past the construction workers, he says yep. So I ask, if the fine is double what are he demerits, he says the usual.
I should have challenged it, took pics etc, but I didn't, I just paid it.
2 mo later I get one 102 in 80 zone in Aug, the day after I pled guilty and paid the June ticket, Guy in Aug writes it up as 90 in an 80, $128 ticket.
I tell this officer how ****ed I am at myself for paying the June ticket just a day earlier,
I tell him the story, he says he would not have given such a ticket,
Ugh, the only 2 tickets I've got in 7-8 years, anyways.
Letter comes in the mail says I have 9 points, wth ? It says 3 for Aug and 6 for the June ticket, the dicks doubled the demerits for the construction zone ticket. Not specified on the ticket anywhere of course. Was thinking of enquiring on that as the ticket did not specify demerits, but whatever, I'll be a good lad for next year or 2.
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In general, the gloves came off once they figured out how much money could be made for government coffers with Photo Radar. All in the name of "keeping you safer, because we know best".
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Baltimore is working with a company that will tell them when you were speeding and where, via your gps. so if you were at playground zone xyz at 3:30pm and your onboard system says you were going 40km, ticket in the mail.
This freaks me out. Police state anyone??

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This freaks me out. Police state anyone??

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A number of years back I had heard of a car rental company trying this with their clients (issuing 'tickets' based on the vehicles data-logging/GPS), the thing it they were the ones collecting and pocketing the 'fine' rather than a government entity. It didn't go over very well but I'm sure they still probably have people tweaking the program for another try. I tried looking it up and was inundated with posts on rental companies forwarding legit tickets so I could not verify the story, I'll allow that it may just be an urban myth.
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Old 05-29-2017, 08:54 AM
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How about this, no that wouldn't work where would all the dollars come from then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intell...eed_adaptation

Intelligent Speed Adaptation (ISA), also known as Alerting, and Intelligent Authority,[1] is any system that ensures that vehicle speed does not exceed a safe or legally enforced speed. In case of potential speeding, a human driver can be alerted, or the speed reduced automatically.
Intelligent speed adaptation uses information about the road to determine the required speed. Information can be obtained from knowledge of the vehicle position, taking into account speed limits known for the position, and by interpreting road features such as signs. ISA systems are designed to detect and alert a driver when a vehicle has entered a new speed zone, or when different speed limits are in force according to time of day and conditions. Many ISA systems also provide information about driving hazards (e.g., high pedestrian movement areas, railway crossings, schools, hospitals, etc.) and limits enforced by speed and traffic light cameras. The purpose of ISA is to assist the driver to maintain a safe and lawful speed at all times.
Research[2] has found that, in urban areas, the number of crashes causing casualties is doubled for each 5 km/h over the limit. It is estimated that about 10% of casualties could be prevented if drivers who routinely travel at up to 10 km/h would obey the speed limits. About 20% of casualties could be prevented if all vehicles complied with the speed limits. Fatalities would be reduced even more.
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How about this, no that wouldn't work where would all the dollars come from then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intell...eed_adaptation

Intelligent Speed Adaptation (ISA), also known as Alerting, and Intelligent Authority,[1] is any system that ensures that vehicle speed does not exceed a safe or legally enforced speed. In case of potential speeding, a human driver can be alerted, or the speed reduced automatically.
Intelligent speed adaptation uses information about the road to determine the required speed. Information can be obtained from knowledge of the vehicle position, taking into account speed limits known for the position, and by interpreting road features such as signs. ISA systems are designed to detect and alert a driver when a vehicle has entered a new speed zone, or when different speed limits are in force according to time of day and conditions. Many ISA systems also provide information about driving hazards (e.g., high pedestrian movement areas, railway crossings, schools, hospitals, etc.) and limits enforced by speed and traffic light cameras. The purpose of ISA is to assist the driver to maintain a safe and lawful speed at all times.
Research[2] has found that, in urban areas, the number of crashes causing casualties is doubled for each 5 km/h over the limit. It is estimated that about 10% of casualties could be prevented if drivers who routinely travel at up to 10 km/h would obey the speed limits. About 20% of casualties could be prevented if all vehicles complied with the speed limits. Fatalities would be reduced even more.
I can just see it now, a driver pulls out to pass a semi on a two lane highway, and as he gets alongside the semi the vehicle automatically reduces speed, leaving the vehicle stuck alongside the semi with oncoming vehicles approaching. This system could change perfectly safe situation, into a fatal accident.
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The political expediency of mixing law enforcement up with revenue generation.

In the end you get no respect for law enforcement and in return no respect for the sheep they believe they're fleecing......all while the politician fills his trough again.

It is the rot at the core of society by mismanagement, laziness and corruption.
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A co-worker of mine got a ticket from an RCMP officer for not signalling before she pulled into a parking spot. This was at 6:00 AM in a completely empty parking lot at a rec center (before opening).
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A co-worker of mine got a ticket from an RCMP officer for not signalling before she pulled into a parking spot. This was at 6:00 AM in a completely empty parking lot at a rec center (before opening).
That's an example of "I had to work the night shift and I'm PO'ed about it". Nothing better to do than ruin someone's day.
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So here is a great way to help bring in some of that tax money the governments need. This is from Australia but how long before we see these type of antics in Alberta.

http://www.news.com.au/national/quee...20a2f0ca2f0daf

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If they could put a meter on your toilet you would pay every time you flushed it.......
Already is, it is called a water meter.
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A co-worker of mine got a ticket from an RCMP officer for not signalling before she pulled into a parking spot. This was at 6:00 AM in a completely empty parking lot at a rec center (before opening).
a parking lot is private property leased by the box stores and your friend should have fought it
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