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Old 05-23-2019, 07:38 AM
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Deer and moose yes. Elk no.

They stink, make messes of wetland, and are clumsy and noisy. Three thinks elk hate.

Just look at the mountain and foothills WMU's, the minute cattle are turned out everything moves out and up from the faeces caked valley bottoms that cows are in.


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Old 05-23-2019, 10:07 AM
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A number of years ago I had a piece of farmland with 60 acres of bush. I wouldn't rent it out for grazing--- several neighbors approached me but I always said no.
I had white tails and mule deer regularly. Also I had a small number of ruffed grouse and the occasional sharp tail. I loved harvesting a few each year being very careful to preserve some for next year.
I sold the land and the new owner cut down all the bush and made it into farmland. Heartbreaking for me but I guess that is the price of progress.
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:37 AM
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I farm part of a quarter where 90 acres have never been broke. Hills, ponds, beavers, poplars throughout. Beautiful piece of scenery but not real useful to me outside hunting season.
Cows were pastured there till the 80's and its been idle since.

Sandy, hilly land north of Blackfalds where it "always" rains. If it gets refenced and grazed in the spring-fall will the cows drive the deer and moose away or do they co-exist?
(I'm not a cow guy, just looking to answer landowners questions).

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Talking from experience here, I have a few parcels in which I primarily utilize for habitat.. Depending on the parcel, I will allow selective grazing on a three year rotation typically, only in the spring to early summer. This removes the excess 'fuel' for fire protection and does these lands well actually.

Species always flourish in the fall and the habitat if managed properly benefits from the controlled grazing.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:42 PM
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If true there would be no wildlife south of deadmonton...please give your heads a shake...Cattle elk, deer can all overgraze given a chance. if cattle are removed from the pasture before it is over grazed (which is just good practice)..wildlife will thrive. GOOD management is way more important then which species is chewing the grass...
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Lots of game right in amongst the cattle whole eastern slopes
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:30 PM
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Lots of game right in amongst the cattle whole eastern slopes


Yep. I'm not buying the cattle evil, game ungulates good side of the discussion. Seen too much contrary.

I'm actually contemplating purchasing a Montana Hereford decoy.

I have seen horses freak when a bull moose jumps the fence though. They did not want any part of him.
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