6.5x55 is king - Page 2

Salavee · #31 03-06-2019, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Salavee

The 6.5x55 Ai shows a MV of 2940 with a 143 ELD at 55000 psi. Not enough improvement to bother with IMO

I ran the Swede up to 58000 psi and it showed 2964 MV with the 143 ELD.
That concurs with my range results. A max load.

260 Rem · #32 03-06-2019, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Salavee

The 6.5x55 Ai shows a MV of 2940 with a 143 ELD at 55000 psi. Not enough improvement to bother with IMO

That’s what happens when you try to improve an already near perfect case

catnthehat · #33 03-06-2019, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Salavee

I ran the Swede up to 58000 psi and it showed 2964 MV with the 143 ELD.
That concurs with my range results. A max load.

I also ran my 6.5X55's and my AI in some actions past 55,000, they worked well.
Cat

Salavee · #34 03-06-2019, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 260 Rem

That’s what happens when you try to improve an already near perfect case

Ain't that a fact !

Don_Parsons · #35 03-06-2019, 08:57 AM

Dam,,, and here I thought the 30/06 was King of the pile. LOL.

👍

Salavee · #36 03-06-2019, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Don_Parsons

Dam,,, and here I thought the 30/06 was King of the pile. LOL.

👍

In it's cartridge class I think it is . Two great cartridges from the old days.
What more can you do with less than 60 grs of powder?

elkhunter1234 · #37 03-06-2019, 09:07 AM

All this talk about the 6.5x55 has got me excited to get the mail today. My new to me Tikka T3 6.5x55 is sitting at the post office awaiting for me.. if anyone has a pet load that works for there 6.5x55 i would love to hear it.

Jim...

stob · #38 03-06-2019, 09:57 AM

I have had a swede since a buddy showed me his long tom swede. Mine is rem700 classic that i recently rebarreled after shooting out the factory barrel. that said, most of my range work and game work have been done with a 156gr vulcan at 2400fps (tradex carries them). I had a 95gr v-max yote load at 3100fps that was dynamite in the old 1:9 barrel. new barrel is a 22" jury at 1:8 ... the swede just keeps on truck'n along as the newbies continue their dance around the KING - my buddy's favourite load in his win featherweight 1:8 is a 120gr NBT that has been very effective on deer

260 Rem · #39 03-06-2019, 10:55 AM

Although I anxiously wait for a new cartridge design that would be considered revolutionary, there seems to little that has “improved” any of the grand old cartridges that does not involve increasing velocity by adding powder. I am not a student of the Ackley improvements but it is my understanding that they rely primarily on creating a bit more powder room by increasing the shoulder angle, and in some versions, add a bit more room by reducing case taper. There is no reason to believe that either of those structural design changes contributes to better accuracy. One of the measurable benefits of increasing the shoulder angle is reducing the forward flow of brass which may increase the service life of frequently reloaded brass. There is also some thought that the increase in shoulder angle may also “redirect” the “blast effect” at the leade ... thereby increasing the service life of the barrel. I think there have been studies done regarding the potential for reducing the back thrust on the bolt by reducing case taper. But, at the end of the day, there will be differences of opinion regarding the extent that reducing shoulder angles or reducing case taper as those “improvements” relate to smooth feeding from a magazine.
Different strokes for different folks

Pioneer2 · #40 03-06-2019, 11:05 AM

RE#22-47gr/140gr Partition/win brass /Fed mag primer under .60 3 shots at 100 yards all day any day
130gr Scorocco2 /47-48gr same powder/brass/primer one jagged hole.129gr Hornady under 3/4" same dose of powder.

Mulehahn · #41 03-06-2019, 11:36 AM

I have to agree, the 6.5x55 is a great cartridge and I have wanted one for a while. My problem is it is a caliber that doesn't fill a hole on my safe. That means it has to be on a rifle that fills a hole. That Ruger Hawkeye African would certainly fit the bill as I currently don't have a iron sight hunting rifle, plus it looks sexy. Just trying to decide if it is worth exchange and import fees.

catnthehat · #42 03-06-2019, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 260 Rem

Although I anxiously wait for a new cartridge design that would be considered revolutionary, there seems to little that has “improved” any of the grand old cartridges that does not involve increasing velocity by adding powder. I am not a student of the Ackley improvements but it is my understanding that they rely primarily on creating a bit more powder room by increasing the shoulder angle, and in some versions, add a bit more room by reducing case taper. There is no reason to believe that either of those structural design changes contributes to better accuracy. One of the measurable benefits of increasing the shoulder angle is reducing the forward flow of brass which may increase the service life of frequently reloaded brass. There is also some thought that the increase in shoulder angle may also “redirect” the “blast effect” at the leade ... thereby increasing the service life of the barrel. I think there have been studies done regarding the potential for reducing the back thrust on the bolt by reducing case taper. But, at the end of the day, there will be differences of opinion regarding the extent that reducing shoulder angles or reducing case taper as those “improvements” relate to smooth feeding from a magazine.
Different strokes for different folks

I agree, there are so very little and advances made in cartridge design these days that one gets a tad jaded when he reads about how great this or that is .

I also never did believe that a slight cartridge case change in itself contributed to better accuracy fir the most part , and if a person wanted more velocity (which some tout as an advantage to the AI cartridges) a larger production case was the better way to go fir most people .
Leade erosion, etc only pertain to those that worry about it- high volume shooters looking for the upmost accuracy .
I have owned more than a few rifles that were completely worn in the throat area and were still really accurate hunting rifles - one with more than 4” gone.
Cat

marxman · #43 03-06-2019, 12:00 PM

140 gr. Barnes or lapua 46 gr n160 i didnt see difference in mag or regular primers. 108 gr lapua 39gr n140 same p.o.i at 300 metres i think that one drops afew inches more at 500. 12 moa compensation at 500 with the 140

badbrass · #44 03-06-2019, 12:12 PM

JD848 · #45 03-06-2019, 12:23 PM

I thought the 6.5x55 was a great cartridge decades ago and now that I have one in the tikka I really enjoy it,and it is one of my most accurate rifles I own.

Nice to carry.you don't need some real high end optic and reloading is great with brass lasting for many loads.To say it's the king ,well I won't go that far ,but it's up there for sure and is getting stronger in popularity more and more as time goes on.

Digger1 · #46 03-06-2019, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lannie

What handload for this cartridge out performs all the others?
I have one in a tikka and am interested for that reason, not to bait you.

H4831sc behind 143g ELD-x covers everything from 2500 to 2950 FPS for me. 2 outstanding accuracy nodes at 2500 and 2700 giving .2-.3 MOA. 27.6” Gustav barrel. M98

Nyksta · #47 03-06-2019, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Digger1

H4831sc behind 143g ELD-x covers everything from 2500 to 2950 FPS for me. 2 outstanding accuracy nodes at 2500 and 2700 giving .2-.3 MOA. 27.6” Gustav barrel. M98

2700fps is a good node for quite a few cartridges it seems.

dogslayer403 · #48 03-06-2019, 05:55 PM

I run one with 140g vlds and RL-22 it is one of my most accurate rifles and another 140g sst and h-4831 also very accurate
I had a load for one with RL22 and 160g woodlieghs it performed excellent on game and shot very well

Digger1 · #49 03-06-2019, 05:59 PM

It’s really happy at 2710 with 46g of H4831sc in Norma brass. Skinny lil 10 year old girl runs it well too.

Duramaximos · #50 03-06-2019, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Digger1

H4831sc behind 143g ELD-x covers everything from 2500 to 2950 FPS for me. 2 outstanding accuracy nodes at 2500 and 2700 giving .2-.3 MOA. 27.6” Gustav barrel. M98

Same powder and bullets here.

I wasn't able fo find the best accuracy above 2800.
The accuracy charge is just so darn good I don't want to mess with it.

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Quest206 · #51 03-06-2019, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter1234

All this talk about the 6.5x55 has got me excited to get the mail today. My new to me Tikka T3 6.5x55 is sitting at the post office awaiting for me.. if anyone has a pet load that works for there 6.5x55 i would love to hear it.

Jim...

Swedish Lakelander
22" Heavy barrel 1 - 8 1/2 twist
Norma Brass
Win. L/R Primer
39 gr. IMR 4350
Nosler 140 gr. Custom Competition
OAL 3.1"
2381 fps
This is not a screaming hot load but very consistent target groups.
For hunting I find almost anything works around 2700 fps. I've taken a lot of deer over the years with 120 gr. Barnes X bullets.

360hunt · #52 03-06-2019, 10:25 PM

No matter what caliber, manufactured or custom rifle I have had the pleasure of owning......
Nothing has come close to the accuracy produced by a rifle that I purchased on a whim.
A 26.5" Shultz and Larson barrel chambered in 6.5x55
With a mauser 98 action.
Right from first load development it produced sub moa. Only got better and better from there...
By luck I bought the rifle and it's one that will always be in the safe.
6.5x55 has proven to be an excellent round for both target and hunting needs.