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05-07-2009, 11:40 PM
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Best Non-Restricted "Tactical" Long Gun
Good day, I'm a first time user of this forum - glad I came across it. Question: what in your opinion is the best non-restricted tactical long gun? I'm researching this market to buy and any thoughts would be appreciated. Thinking .223
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05-08-2009, 12:11 AM
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Bolt action or semi?
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05-08-2009, 06:55 AM
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My question would be "what do you consider "tactical"?
That is a very misleading statement, as some people consider anything that is black to be tactical.
Cat
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Best pick up is a Toyota.
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05-08-2009, 08:15 AM
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Quote:
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Best pick up is a Toyota.
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05-08-2009, 12:27 PM
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Appreciate the request for clarification. By "tactical" I meant to mean semi-auto, and frankly yes, I am asking "what the best pick-up is" - I know its a broad question.
Thanks again
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05-08-2009, 12:36 PM
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If you want something like a AR then go with an AR 180. They're none restricted. They look something like this.
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/attac...2&d=1239244500
If that is what you mean by tactical and depending on how much you want to spend.
Good luck
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05-08-2009, 02:04 PM
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Hey, if it's a beauty contest, here's my vote: 
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Swiss Arms Classic Green or for just shooting fun and tacticool furniture the Cz 858. The Cz shoots surplus commie ammo and is fun and accurate out to 5-600 yards but you can't hunt with the cheap ammo and there is not much else for 7.62x39 around. The Swiss Arms is pricey but is supposed to be a better rifle than the AR platform in some peoples opinion, and its non-restricted so you can shoot it anywhere.
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05-08-2009, 03:31 PM
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The HK SL8 was my pick, it is supposed to be deadly accurate but I had a helluva time to get it down to one MOA. A good reloading geek could probably do better. It is a fun gun. 
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05-08-2009, 10:34 PM
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The best is likely the Swiss Arms rifle, there are not that many choices in tactical type rifles that are not restricted.
I have the CZ 858 and it is a great gun to go out and have fun with. The price difference between these two would allow you to purchase a lifetime supply of ammo. You cane see Swiss arms at P&D if you live in Edmonton. FS
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05-09-2009, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Faststeel
The best is likely the Swiss Arms rifle, there are not that many choices in tactical type rifles that are not restricted.
I have the CZ 858 and it is a great gun to go out and have fun with. The price difference between these two would allow you to purchase a lifetime supply of ammo. You cane see Swiss arms at P&D if you live in Edmonton. FS
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Definitely the Swiss Arms.
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FNH SCAR
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I want THAT!. Where around Calgary can you find one of those and how much? And is that still non restricted?
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05-10-2009, 07:05 PM
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tactical
one that can shoot running shoes  
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05-10-2009, 07:09 PM
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go away spammer!!!!
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Wow. *That's* non-restricted? I wonder how I'll sneak one of *those* past the wife?
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11-18-2011, 01:55 PM
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if you like the size of the bullpup
look up the fn2000 form fnhusa.com and you can go on the civy side and they have all the same stuff on there as the militairy side just its in semi auto and they have some sweet stuff and lots of the stuff you can buy as a non resticted as long as the goverment hasn't changed it  DEATH TO THE GUN REGISTRATION!!!!!!!! well at least they say at the end of this year the long gun will be gone and I have no problems with having to registeration of my hand guns my robinson arms, swiss arms, fn2000, 50BMG berret and that is the semi auto one (you can get them in to canada if you know someone that will help you out in europ or a place that sells them from over there but it will cost a lot 24,000 for my first one and if you buy lost of them and sell them to your buddys the cost goes down a lot) and the only things in that list thats a restricted is my handguns pulls if you want to find something let me know I know enough people that I can find anything just msg me 
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11-18-2011, 03:43 PM
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Depends what the price point is too. For budget choices...
This is pretty great for ~$600
 
This is about $900
Both shoot 9mm
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11-18-2011, 04:08 PM
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Ruger mini 14
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11-18-2011, 05:03 PM
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tactical
There are so many choices and calibers to choose from the Swiss Arms is amazing the RFB is super fun and little there is robinson arms XCR which is fun and you can mod lots H&K is good Tavor LOl the list is endless really you need to narrow your searh buy price and caliber. There is no "best" Just different.
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On the low end of the price scale the kel tec su-16 is a lot of fun, and uses ar mags
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11-20-2011, 05:55 AM
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I still think this is the craziest non-restricted gun.
http://www.marstar.ca/semi-mg/live-M2HB.htm
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11-20-2011, 08:37 AM
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You've really got six good quality main choices and they'll all run you you 2000+. Get to a tactical style focused store (such as P&D) and handle some, they all shoot fairly comparably (1.5inchesish) except for the SwissArms which are more of a one inch gun.
1. RFB (308)
2. XCR
3. SL8
4. Tavor
6. SCAR
6. Swissarms
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I went with the RA XCR-Lfor caliber conversions, 223, 5.56x45, 6.8SPC,7.62x39. Just a matter of changing the bolt and barrel, takes about 4 min. It also takes LAR-15 mags(10rnds) which is a big bonus.
I put 1000 rnds through it in about 6 hrs. Not a single problem.
The XCR-M should be here soon in 243, 260 rem and 308.
Swiss Arms are more $ mags are more $$$, and the POI changes when shooting off a Bi-pod, still want one though.
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Su 16 ( keltec )
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4+ year old thread soooo since I can have it now and it was a dream back then..
Type97, best .223 I have shot!
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Yay another thread brought from the dead....
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